'I wish I had thought to get a copy of the photo of your bird, with a Cessna 150 sitting on top of it, with the mains straddling the fuselage. The prop of the 150 was a matter of inches behind Ken's head. As you can guess, it made a mess of the elevator trim cable. I think the entire back side wood on the fuselage didn't fair well.Bob
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 5:53 AM, "Buell Powell
bhpowell@gvtc.com [fairchildclub]" wrote:
Hi Bob, Sounds like your coming along and like mine-runnung into things done in the past that take patience to straiten out. Except for the seats I have most of the interior finished and probably start on the instrument panel next. Making those fairings fit correctly was a little interesting on mine also-it hadn't been damaged but still had to add some extra wood pieces for the screws.
From: "Robert Etter
robertetter@ymail.com [fairchildclub]"
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 6:11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] F24 brake master cylinders
Thanks for the refresher. I thought that there was something in the NAPA Kit that wouldn't work. How is NC 81330 coming along.I am real close to hanging the motor. I got most of the dents out of my dish pan. There was some real tough one on the outer edge. The reinforcement on the outer edge kept me from doing a great job. So... out with the Bondo.Getting the bolt to go through the Motor mounts and the mount were a real head ache. I didn't damage the threads on the bolts much at all. A little on the first thread was all.Another bit of 1948 damage showed up that I didn't notice. The rudder "C channel" had been spliced. Didn't catch that the rear former on the back of the fuselage had been install about 3/4" aft of where it should have been and maybe 1/2" too tall. It made installing the fairings around the rudder & stabilizer interesting.Bob
On Monday, February 23, 2015 3:51 PM, Robert Etter wrote:
In case that doesn't work. NAPA Master cylinder Kit "7 47730 08109 0"Bob
On Monday, February 23, 2015 12:42 PM, "Buell
bhpowell@gvtc.com [fairchildclub]" wrote:
One thing I ran into was that the Pistons in the new kits were longer than the originals and there wasn't enough travel for the brakes to release. The seals on the new Pistons do work on the old Pistons so you can use them.
On Feb 23, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Tim Potter
trp.8888@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
Thanx for the reply. I ended up going to oreily auto parts. I told them i needed a reybestos MK1 rebuild kit. He cross refrenced it to another part # and had two kits in my hand in about 3 hours. I am going to order 2 more just to have in the future. But they are available still
Tim
NC25328
From: Robert Etter
robertetter@ymail.com [fairchildclub] ;
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com ;
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] F24 brake master cylinders
Sent: Mon, Feb 23, 2015 6:36:32 PM
NAPA Kit #1 will do it. The NAPA bar code is in one of the old E-mails, somewhere. I don't remember if 100% of the parts that are in the kit will be an exact substitute for all of the internal workings of the master cylinder, but I do remember that all of the rubbers parts work. If NAPA can't find it, I know that I still have one of the kits. You could also try to do a search of the past E-mails, and find some more information. I passed the same information to someone many years ago. There is many shops out there that can reface the wall of the master cylinder. If you have FE-1990, the wall thickness may not allow resurfacing. CD Drawing #42281 shows the cast iron master cylinder at the top, and the Wagner Fe-1990 at the bottom. For the Fe-1990, the one I had, it did have a manufacturers label on it. The drawing didn't say anything.Bob
On Sunday, February 22, 2015 8:19 PM, "Home
ptcurt@gmail.com [fairchildclub]" wrote:
Go to a tire shop, especially one that does race cars, etc. Used to working on odd sizes and mags. Usually will do them for free because it is something cool and different!
Curt Kinchen
ptcurt@gmail.comFrom: Tim Potter
trp.8888@yahoo.com [fairchildclub]
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 8:34 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.comReply To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [fairchildclub] F24 brake master cylinders
thanx for the response. I did some research and found that exact kit. I got it in the ol girl today and am going to test it tomorrow. I also put new tires and tubes on......WOW that was a pain in the ass!! Not having split wheels make it very tuff to do. Took me about 8 hours.
TimNC25328
On Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:55 PM, "Ellen Starr
ellengstarr@yahoo.com [fairchildclub]" wrote:
Tim,Believe I have the same cylinders in my brake system. Used some parts from NAPA haudraulic kit #1 to rebuilt them. Think the cup was one item used. Also had the cylinders resleeved and bored by a fellow in CA.
Roger StarrNC77630
From: "
trp.8888@yahoo.com [fairchildclub]"
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 7:53 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] F24 brake master cylinders
Hi all
I have a 1940 F24W-40My brake cylinders are leaking bad. They appear to be made by lockheed and are a round tube with a brass plunger, spring, and rubber cup inside. The part that is leaking is the rubber gasket/o ring around the brass plunger. Any clue where I can buy new gaskets?
ThanxTim NC25328
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