Re: Wiring diagram for starter for Ranger Engdine

John Ellis · Post by **John Ellis** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:00 am

'Good Morning,

I need a wiring diagram for the starter circuit on a PT-26.

I have the diagrams for the generator, lights and so on, but nothing for the starter.

Many thanks for your help.

John Ellis

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mileslong2k · Post by **mileslong2k** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:08 am

'Could it be the starter for this aircraft originally came with an inertia starter, hence no wiring diagram? Then years later a inertia/electric starter?

Jim'

Gene Haines · Post by **Gene Haines** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:17 am

'inertia or electric starter. Only one or the other.

Gene

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From: mileslong2k
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Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2011 11:08 am
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Wiring diagram for starter for Ranger Engdine

Could it be the starter for this aircraft originally came with an inertia starter, hence no wiring diagram? Then years later a inertia/electric starter?

Jim

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Jack Threadgill · Post by **Jack Threadgill** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:42 pm

'No inertia starter. The PT-19 had a direct drive hand crank. On the PT-26,
the hand crank was removed and replaced with an electric starter.

John, I am not real sure what you are wanting. I have no wiring diagram.
On mine, there is just a starter switch that activates a starter solenoid
that connects the battery to the starter. The battery and solenoid are
located behind the front pilots seat and between the rear pilots rudder
pedals.

Jack

Jack M. Threadgill

1602 Brook Hollow Dr

Bryan, Texas 77802

979-779-7155

threadgl@suddenlink.net

From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of mileslong2k
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:08 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Wiring diagram for starter for Ranger Engdine

Could it be the starter for this aircraft originally came with an inertia
starter, hence no wiring diagram? Then years later a inertia/electric
starter?

Jim

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Charles · Post by **Charles** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:03 pm

'Jim, Jack and all,
When I put my chime in on a technical question I usually get shot down - and as a turner/fitter and not aeronautical engineer that is hardly surprising. However, wearing my "historian's" hat I would like to clarify.

To the best of my knowledge all the M-62 series built by Fairchild had the manual starter and that includes the Hagerstown-built PT-26 (Cornell Mk.I). The one exception might be the final PT-19A that Fairchild bought back from the USAAF and upgraded for used by the company's own Flying Club. I seem to recall the modifications included an electric starter - Mike Kelly may be able to comfirm that.

All the PT-26A, PT-26B and Cornell Mk.IIs built by Fleet in Canada were built with electric starters and thus there was no hole in the cowling for the starter handle.

The above represents the situation when the aircraft were built and since then I understand many may have had the manual system replaced by an electric starter.

Hope this helps, Tony

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Threadgill" wrote:
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> No inertia starter. The PT-19 had a direct drive hand crank. On the PT-26,
> the hand crank was removed and replaced with an electric starter.
>
>
>
> John, I am not real sure what you are wanting. I have no wiring diagram.
> On mine, there is just a starter switch that activates a starter solenoid
> that connects the battery to the starter. The battery and solenoid are
> located behind the front pilots seat and between the rear pilots rudder
> pedals.
>
>
>
> Jack
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>
>
> Jack M. Threadgill
>
> 1602 Brook Hollow Dr
>
> Bryan, Texas 77802
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> 979-779-7155
>
> threadgl@...
>
>
>
>
>
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of mileslong2k
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:08 AM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Wiring diagram for starter for Ranger Engdine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Could it be the starter for this aircraft originally came with an inertia
> starter, hence no wiring diagram? Then years later a inertia/electric
> starter?
>
> Jim
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Jack Threadgill · Post by **Jack Threadgill** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:22 pm

'Charles, I am sure you are correct.
Thanks for the information.

Sent from my iPhone, Jack

On Sep 15, 2011, at 3:03 PM, "Charles" wrote:

>
>
> Jim, Jack and all,
> When I put my chime in on a technical question I usually get shot down - and as a turner/fitter and not aeronautical engineer that is hardly surprising. However, wearing my "historian's" hat I would like to clarify.
>
> To the best of my knowledge all the M-62 series built by Fairchild had the manual starter and that includes the Hagerstown-built PT-26 (Cornell Mk.I). The one exception might be the final PT-19A that Fairchild bought back from the USAAF and upgraded for used by the company's own Flying Club. I seem to recall the modifications included an electric starter - Mike Kelly may be able to comfirm that.
>
> All the PT-26A, PT-26B and Cornell Mk.IIs built by Fleet in Canada were built with electric starters and thus there was no hole in the cowling for the starter handle.
>
> The above represents the situation when the aircraft were built and since then I understand many may have had the manual system replaced by an electric starter.
>
> Hope this helps, Tony
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Threadgill" wrote:
> >
> > No inertia starter. The PT-19 had a direct drive hand crank. On the PT-26,
> > the hand crank was removed and replaced with an electric starter.
> >
> >
> >
> > John, I am not real sure what you are wanting. I have no wiring diagram.
> > On mine, there is just a starter switch that activates a starter solenoid
> > that connects the battery to the starter. The battery and solenoid are
> > located behind the front pilots seat and between the rear pilots rudder
> > pedals.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> > Jack M. Threadgill
> >
> > 1602 Brook Hollow Dr
> >
> > Bryan, Texas 77802
> >
> > 979-779-7155
> >
> > threadgl@...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of mileslong2k
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:08 AM
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Wiring diagram for starter for Ranger Engdine
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Could it be the starter for this aircraft originally came with an inertia
> > starter, hence no wiring diagram? Then years later a inertia/electric
> > starter?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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mjd12k · Post by **mjd12k** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:44 am

'John,
A 337 for a PT-26 Jasco alternator installation is posted in the files section. A schematic for the start circuit is included in the 337.

Mike

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "John Ellis" wrote:
>
> Good Morning,
>
> I need a wiring diagram for the starter circuit on a PT-26.
>
> I have the diagrams for the generator, lights and so on, but nothing for the starter.
>
> Many thanks for your help.
>
> John Ellis
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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