Re: Motor Mounts

[Cy Galley]

'National Air and Space Museum, Part of the Smithsonian





From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wclayman
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:35 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM





Hugh,

Your post is timely. The NASM indexes are being turned topsy turby over the next two months. I lost the drawing index url. Please share the "current" url for the index. I spent three hours chasing the rabbit hole on Friday. I found new resources, however I came up empty on the url for the drawing indexes. There are many new avenues in the NASM and Smithsonian web sites and data bases.

Thanks in advance for your contributions to this list.

Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: Jp Lorie
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:16 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM

Hi Hugh,
Can you tell us what NASM is and how to get to it.

Thanks,
Jp.Lorie
Florida

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From: Hugh Loewenhardt
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 4:35:13 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts

You may or may not find drawing 48107 in Jamies's CD as it contains certification drawings only(not sure which model) and is not inclusive of all drawings utilized in the manufacturing process. The construction drawing indices for each model(available from NASM) lists all the drawings used to construct the various models. I just checked the drawing index for the G model and drawing 48107 is listed as applicable.

--- On Fri, 5/28/10, burnmcc@aol.com wrote:

> From: burnmcc@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 1:35 PM
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> From: Hugh Loewenhardt
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> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 8:58 pm
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> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> Bill, The original engine installation washer for the
> Warner 145 on Fairchild 24's with integral engine mounts
> is: a 1.250"x1.250"x0.1875"thick washer with
> an 11/32" center hole. The washer is manufactured from
> brake lining material. Dimensions and material are as
> specified by Fairchild drawing number 48107. Drawing
> applicability is: C8C,C8E,24G,24J, and 24W9. The drawing is
> available from NASM or I can send you copy. Your choice.
> Hugh Loewenhardt
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[wclayman]

'Hugh,

Your post is timely. The NASM indexes are being turned topsy turby over the next two months.

I lost the drawing index url. Please share the "current" url for the index. I spent three hours chasing the rabbit hole on Friday. I found new resources, however I came up empty on the url for the drawing indexes. There are many new avenues in the NASM and Smithsonian web sites and data bases.

Thanks in advance for your contributions to this list.

Ed

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[Hugh Loewenhardt]

'Hello Jp, NASM is the National Air and Space Museum in Washington DC. They are the repository for all available F-24 drawings and associated drawing indices turned over to them by Fairchild Corp. Obtaining drawings from them is a very formal, regimented and controled procedure but worth the effort. The procedure begins with your written request to them for your applicable drawing index so you can identify the drawing or drawings needed. Be aware that all drawings shown in an index may not be on hand at at NASM(probably lost forever) but the indices themselves are an invaluable resource. You will recieve via USPS ordering instructions, rules to follows, copy pricing and all the necessary submittal forms. Call me (860)535-1699 if you want the mailing address direct to the archive(It is a long and cumbersome address). Different thread now: I do not know the model F-24 you are working on but the later style universal blocks had bolt bushings in them which
apply to the blocks available from Bill. I have the drawings for the old style blocks without the bolt bushings. Since I have a set of Bill's blocks for my project, I have to order the later drawings in order to have the new blocks machined to the drawing requiements. Actually one could replicate the machine work done on an orginal block for new bushings and bolts and be ok. It a matter of checking dimensions and clearances so the holes are machined square and true and reamed to the correct size(critical).
Regards, Hugh

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Jp Lorie wrote:

> From: Jp Lorie
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 4:16 PM
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> From: Hugh Loewenhardt
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> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 4:35:13 PM
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> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> You may or may not find drawing 48107 in Jamies's CD as
> it contains certification drawings only(not sure which
> model) and is not inclusive of all drawings utilized in the
> manufacturing process. The construction drawing indices for
> each model(available from NASM) lists all the drawings used
> to construct the various models. I just checked the drawing
> index for the G model and drawing 48107 is listed as
> applicable.
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> --- On Fri, 5/28/10, burnmcc@aol.com
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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 8:58 pm
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> > Bill, The original engine installation washer for the
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> > Warner 145 on Fairchild 24's with integral engine
> mounts
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> > is: a 1.250"x1.250"x0.1875"thick washer
> with
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> > an 11/32" center hole. The washer is manufactured
> from
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> > brake lining material. Dimensions and material are as
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> > specified by Fairchild drawing number 48107. Drawing
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> > applicability is: C8C,C8E,24G,24J, and 24W9. The
> drawing is
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> > available from NASM or I can send you copy. Your
> choice.
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[Hugh Loewenhardt]

'Hello wclayman, For my project, I use hard copies of the drawing indices obtained from NASM as explained in my reply to Jp.Lorie. If the indices for the various model F-24's are available on the Internet that is(would) be a great thing but at this point I am unaware of it. I will do some research to find out. Regards, Hugh

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, wclayman wrote:

> From: wclayman
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 4:35 PM
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> Your post is timely. The NASM indexes are being turned
> topsy turby over the next two months. I lost the drawing
> index url. Please share the "current" url for the
> index. I spent three hours chasing the rabbit hole on
> Friday. I found new resources, however I came up empty on
> the url for the drawing indexes. There are many new avenues
> in the NASM and Smithsonian web sites and data bases.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your contributions to this list.
>
>
>
> Ed
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> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Jp Lorie
>
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:16 AM
>
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
>
>
>
> Hi Hugh,
>
> Can you tell us what NASM is and how to get to it.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jp.Lorie
>
> Florida
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> ________________________________
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> From: Hugh Loewenhardt
>
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 4:35:13 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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>
>
> You may or may not find drawing 48107 in Jamies's CD as
> it contains certification drawings only(not sure which
> model) and is not inclusive of all drawings utilized in the
> manufacturing process. The construction drawing indices for
> each model(available from NASM) lists all the drawings used
> to construct the various models. I just checked the drawing
> index for the G model and drawing 48107 is listed as
> applicable.
>
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> --- On Fri, 5/28/10, burnmcc@aol.com
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> wrote:
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> > From: burnmcc@aol.com
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> a
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> > little hard to navigate (at least for me) but I will
> see if
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> > I can find it with that info.
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> > Thanks again.
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> > Bill McC
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > From: Hugh Loewenhardt
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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 8:58 pm
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> > Bill, The original engine installation washer for
> the
>
> > Warner 145 on Fairchild 24's with integral
> engine mounts
>
> > is: a 1.250"x1.250"x0.1875"thick
> washer with
>
> > an 11/32" center hole. The washer is
> manufactured from
>
> > brake lining material. Dimensions and material are
> as
>
> > specified by Fairchild drawing number 48107.
> Drawing
>
> > applicability is: C8C,C8E,24G,24J, and 24W9. The
> drawing is
>
> > available from NASM or I can send you copy. Your
> choice.
>
> > Hugh Loewenhardt
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> > --- On Thu, 5/27/10, mcclurebill@rocketmail.com
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>
> > > answer on the proper rubber to put between the
> engine
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> > and
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> >
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> > > the motor mount. These have the mount that is
> integral
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> > > the fuselage frame. Upon removing the failed
> engine I
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> > found
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> >
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> > > the rubber to be pieces cut out of tire
> sidewall. I
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> > have
>
> >
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> > > since found out from other sources that this
> may in
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> > fact be
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> >
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> > > the right thing to put there. Can anyone with
> a
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'Hugh,

Yes, they are/were online. I will post the url when I once again have found it.

Thanks,

Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: Hugh Loewenhardt
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM



Hello wclayman, For my project, I use hard copies of the drawing indices obtained from NASM as explained in my reply to Jp.Lorie. If the indices for the various model F-24's are available on the Internet that is(would) be a great thing but at this point I am unaware of it. I will do some research to find out. Regards, Hugh

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, wclayman wrote:

> From: wclayman
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 4:35 PM
>
>
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> Hugh,
>
>
>
> Your post is timely. The NASM indexes are being turned
> topsy turby over the next two months. I lost the drawing
> index url. Please share the "current" url for the
> index. I spent three hours chasing the rabbit hole on
> Friday. I found new resources, however I came up empty on
> the url for the drawing indexes. There are many new avenues
> in the NASM and Smithsonian web sites and data bases.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your contributions to this list.
>
>
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Jp Lorie
>
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:16 AM
>
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
>
>
>
> Hi Hugh,
>
> Can you tell us what NASM is and how to get to it.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jp.Lorie
>
> Florida
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Hugh Loewenhardt
>
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 4:35:13 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
>
>
>
> You may or may not find drawing 48107 in Jamies's CD as
> it contains certification drawings only(not sure which
> model) and is not inclusive of all drawings utilized in the
> manufacturing process. The construction drawing indices for
> each model(available from NASM) lists all the drawings used
> to construct the various models. I just checked the drawing
> index for the G model and drawing 48107 is listed as
> applicable.
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 5/28/10, burnmcc@aol.com
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: burnmcc@aol.com
>
>
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
>
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 1:35 PM
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> > OK, Many thanks. I have the Fairchild CD from Jamie,
> a
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> > little hard to navigate (at least for me) but I will
> see if
>
> > I can find it with that info.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Thanks again.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Bill McC
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> >
>
> > From: Hugh Loewenhardt
>
> >
>
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
>
> > Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 8:58 pm
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Bill, The original engine installation washer for
> the
>
> > Warner 145 on Fairchild 24's with integral
> engine mounts
>
> > is: a 1.250"x1.250"x0.1875"thick
> washer with
>
> > an 11/32" center hole. The washer is
> manufactured from
>
> > brake lining material. Dimensions and material are
> as
>
> > specified by Fairchild drawing number 48107.
> Drawing
>
> > applicability is: C8C,C8E,24G,24J, and 24W9. The
> drawing is
>
> > available from NASM or I can send you copy. Your
> choice.
>
> > Hugh Loewenhardt
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- On Thu, 5/27/10, mcclurebill@rocketmail.com
>
> >
>
> > wrote:
>
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> >
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> >
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> > > From: mcclurebill@rocketmail.com
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > Subject: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
>
> >
>
> > > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>
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>
> > > Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 12:37 PM
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> a
>
> > definitive
>
> >
>
> > > answer on the proper rubber to put between the
> engine
>
> > and
>
> >
>
> > > the motor mount. These have the mount that is
> integral
>
> > with
>
> >
>
> > > the fuselage frame. Upon removing the failed
> engine I
>
> > found
>
> >
>
> > > the rubber to be pieces cut out of tire
> sidewall. I
>
> > have
>
> >
>
> > > since found out from other sources that this
> may in
>
> > fact be
>
> >
>
> > > the right thing to put there. Can anyone with
> a
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[MARC J FLEMING]

'Try: nasm.si.edu/research/arch/collections/techdraw/fairchild24.cfm That should do it. Marc

To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
From: wmclayman@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 05:46:12 -0500
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM




























Hugh,



Yes, they are/were online. I will post the url when I once again have found it.



Thanks,



Ed

----- Original Message -----

From: Hugh Loewenhardt

To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:26 PM

Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM



Hello wclayman, For my project, I use hard copies of the drawing indices obtained from NASM as explained in my reply to Jp.Lorie. If the indices for the various model F-24's are available on the Internet that is(would) be a great thing but at this point I am unaware of it. I will do some research to find out. Regards, Hugh



--- On Tue, 6/1/10, wclayman wrote:



> From: wclayman

> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM

> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 4:35 PM

>

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> Hugh,

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>

>

> Your post is timely. The NASM indexes are being turned

> topsy turby over the next two months. I lost the drawing

> index url. Please share the "current" url for the

> index. I spent three hours chasing the rabbit hole on

> Friday. I found new resources, however I came up empty on

> the url for the drawing indexes. There are many new avenues

> in the NASM and Smithsonian web sites and data bases.

>

>

>

> Thanks in advance for your contributions to this list.

>

>

>

> Ed

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

> From: Jp Lorie

>

> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:16 AM

>

> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM

>

>

>

> Hi Hugh,

>

> Can you tell us what NASM is and how to get to it.

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Jp.Lorie

>

> Florida

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: Hugh Loewenhardt

>

> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

>

> Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 4:35:13 PM

>

> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts

>

>

>

> You may or may not find drawing 48107 in Jamies's CD as

> it contains certification drawings only(not sure which

> model) and is not inclusive of all drawings utilized in the

> manufacturing process. The construction drawing indices for

> each model(available from NASM) lists all the drawings used

> to construct the various models. I just checked the drawing

> index for the G model and drawing 48107 is listed as

> applicable.

>

>

>

> --- On Fri, 5/28/10, burnmcc@aol.com

>

> wrote:

>

>

>

> > From: burnmcc@aol.com

>

>

> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts

>

> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

>

> > Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 1:35 PM

>

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>

> >

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> > OK, Many thanks. I have the Fairchild CD from Jamie,

> a

>

> > little hard to navigate (at least for me) but I will

> see if

>

> > I can find it with that info.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Thanks again.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Bill McC

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > -----Original Message-----

>

> >

>

> > From: Hugh Loewenhardt

>

> >

>

> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

>

> >

>

> > Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 8:58 pm

>

> >

>

> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Bill, The original engine installation washer for

> the

>

> > Warner 145 on Fairchild 24's with integral

> engine mounts

>

> > is: a 1.250"x1.250"x0.1875"thick

> washer with

>

> > an 11/32" center hole. The washer is

> manufactured from

>

> > brake lining material. Dimensions and material are

> as

>

> > specified by Fairchild drawing number 48107.

> Drawing

>

> > applicability is: C8C,C8E,24G,24J, and 24W9. The

> drawing is

>

> > available from NASM or I can send you copy. Your

> choice.

>

> > Hugh Loewenhardt

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > --- On Thu, 5/27/10, mcclurebill@rocketmail.com

>

> >

>

> > wrote:

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > > From: mcclurebill@rocketmail.com

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > > Subject: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts

>

> >

>

> > > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

>

> >

>

> > > Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 12:37 PM

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>

> > > I'm finally getting close to having an

> engine

>

> >

>

> > > to install in my 24G. I still haven't got

> a

>

> > definitive

>

> >

>

> > > answer on the proper rubber to put between the

> engine

>

> > and

>

> >

>

> > > the motor mount. These have the mount that is

> integral

>

> > with

>

> >

>

> > > the fuselage frame. Upon removing the failed

> engine I

>

> > found

>

> >

>

> > > the rubber to be pieces cut out of tire

> sidewall. I

>

> > have

>

> >

>

> > > since found out from other sources that this

> may in

>

> > fact be

>

> >

>

> > > the right thing to put there. Can anyone with

> a

>

> > similar 24

>

> >

>

> > > tell me what was used in their aircraft?

> Thanks.

>

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[Jp Lorie]

'Thank you Hugh, and all the rest of you for your generous contribution of your knowledge and information.
It is comforting and encouraging to know that their are resources and people like you out there.

Many Thanks ,
JP. Lorie

P.S.  As to the Universal Blocks; when I receive my new blocks from bill, I will remove a set and measure all dimensions and use that for the machine  shop work.



________________________________
From: Hugh Loewenhardt
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 9:50:22 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM

 
Hello Jp, NASM is the National Air and Space Museum in Washington DC. They are the repository for all available F-24 drawings and associated drawing indices turned over to them by Fairchild Corp. Obtaining drawings from them is a very formal, regimented and controled procedure but worth the effort. The procedure begins with your written request to them for your applicable drawing index so you can identify the drawing or drawings needed. Be aware that all drawings shown in an index may not be on hand at at NASM(probably lost forever) but the indices themselves are an invaluable resource. You will recieve via USPS ordering instructions, rules to follows, copy pricing and all the necessary submittal forms. Call me (860)535-1699 if you want the mailing address direct to the archive(It is a long and cumbersome address). Different thread now: I do not know the model F-24 you are working on but the later style universal blocks had bolt bushings in them which
apply to the blocks available from Bill. I have the drawings for the old style blocks without the bolt bushings. Since I have a set of Bill's blocks for my project, I have to order the later drawings in order to have the new blocks machined to the drawing requiements. Actually one could replicate the machine work done on an orginal block for new bushings and bolts and be ok. It a matter of checking dimensions and clearances so the holes are machined square and true and reamed to the correct size(critical).
Regards, Hugh

--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Jp Lorie wrote:

> From: Jp Lorie
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 4:16 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>  
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>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Hugh,
>
> Can you tell us what NASM is and how to get to it.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jp.Lorie
>
> Florida
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Hugh Loewenhardt
>
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 4:35:13 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> You may or may not find drawing 48107 in Jamies's CD as
> it contains certification drawings only(not sure which
> model) and is not inclusive of all drawings utilized in the
> manufacturing process. The construction drawing indices for
> each model(available from NASM) lists all the drawings used
> to construct the various models. I just checked the drawing
> index for the G model and drawing 48107 is listed as
> applicable.
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> --- On Fri, 5/28/10, burnmcc@aol.com
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> > From: burnmcc@aol.com
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 1:35 PM
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > From: Hugh Loewenhardt
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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 8:58 pm
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> > Bill, The original engine installation washer for the
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> > Warner 145 on Fairchild 24's with integral engine
> mounts
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> > is: a 1.250"x1.250"x0.1875"thick washer
> with
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> > an 11/32" center hole. The washer is manufactured
> from
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> > brake lining material. Dimensions and material are as
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> > specified by Fairchild drawing number 48107. Drawing
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> > applicability is: C8C,C8E,24G,24J, and 24W9. The
> drawing is
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> > available from NASM or I can send you copy. Your
> choice.
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> > Hugh Loewenhardt
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> > --- On Thu, 5/27/10, mcclurebill@rocketmail.com
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> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> From: shadowll@msn.com
> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 06:23:42 -0700
> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> Try: nasm.si.edu/research/arch/collections/techdraw/fairchild24.cfm That should do it. Marc
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> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> From: wmclayman@comcast.net
> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 05:46:12 -0500
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Hugh Loewenhardt
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> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:26 PM
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> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> Hello wclayman, For my project, I use hard copies of the drawing indices obtained from NASM as explained in my reply to Jp.Lorie. If the indices for the various model F-24's are available on the Internet that is(would) be a great thing but at this point I am unaware of it. I will do some research to find out. Regards, Hugh
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> --- On Tue, 6/1/10, wclayman wrote:
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> > From: wclayman
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 4:35 PM
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> > Ed
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> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > From: Jp Lorie
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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:16 AM
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> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> > Hi Hugh,
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> > From: Hugh Loewenhardt
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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 4:35:13 PM
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> >
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > You may or may not find drawing 48107 in Jamies's CD as
>
> > it contains certification drawings only(not sure which
>
> > model) and is not inclusive of all drawings utilized in the
>
> > manufacturing process. The construction drawing indices for
>
> > each model(available from NASM) lists all the drawings used
>
> > to construct the various models. I just checked the drawing
>
> > index for the G model and drawing 48107 is listed as
>
> > applicable.
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> >
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> >
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> > --- On Fri, 5/28/10, burnmcc@aol.com
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> > wrote:
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> > > From: burnmcc@aol.com
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> > > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> >
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> > > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > > Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 1:35 PM
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> > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > From: Hugh Loewenhardt
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> > > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > > Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 8:58 pm
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> > > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> > > Bill, The original engine installation washer for
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> > the
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> > > Warner 145 on Fairchild 24's with integral
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> > engine mounts
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> >
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> > > is: a 1.250"x1.250"x0.1875"thick
>
> > washer with
>
> >
>
> > > an 11/32" center hole. The washer is
>
> > manufactured from
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> >
>
> > > brake lining material. Dimensions and material are
>
> > as
>
> >
>
> > > specified by Fairchild drawing number 48107.
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> > Drawing
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> > > applicability is: C8C,C8E,24G,24J, and 24W9. The
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> > drawing is
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> > > available from NASM or I can send you copy. Your
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> > choice.
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> > > Hugh Loewenhardt
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> > > > Subject: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> > > with
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> > > found
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> > > have
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> > > > since found out from other sources that this
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> > > fact be
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'Thanks,
But no...we all already had that one tucked away...

Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: MARC J FLEMING
To: Fairchild Yahoo site post
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:51 PM
Subject: FW: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM





> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> From: shadowll@msn.com
> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 06:23:42 -0700
> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> Try: nasm.si.edu/research/arch/collections/techdraw/fairchild24.cfm That should do it. Marc
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> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> From: wmclayman@comcast.net
> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 05:46:12 -0500
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Hugh Loewenhardt
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> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:26 PM
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> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> Hello wclayman, For my project, I use hard copies of the drawing indices obtained from NASM as explained in my reply to Jp.Lorie. If the indices for the various model F-24's are available on the Internet that is(would) be a great thing but at this point I am unaware of it. I will do some research to find out. Regards, Hugh
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> > ----- Original Message -----
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[mcclurebill@rocketmail.com]

'Hugh:

I have two CD's of drawings, and neither has the reference drawing on them (48107). If you have a copy, would you please send a scan or xerox to me? Write me at burnmcc@aol.com for details and any costs.

Also, this brake lining material is not familiar to me. I have asked some oldtimers and they seem to think it is old auto stuff. Do you or anyone else here know where it may be obtained?

Many thanks.

Bill McClure

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Hugh Loewenhardt wrote:
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> You may or may not find drawing 48107 in Jamies's CD as it contains certification drawings only(not sure which model) and is not inclusive of all drawings utilized in the manufacturing process. The construction drawing indices for each model(available from NASM) lists all the drawings used to construct the various models. I just checked the drawing index for the G model and drawing 48107 is listed as applicable.
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 1:35 PM
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> > OK, Many thanks. I have the Fairchild CD from Jamie, a
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > From: Hugh Loewenhardt
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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 8:58 pm
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> > Bill, The original engine installation washer for the
> > Warner 145 on Fairchild 24's with integral engine mounts
> > is: a 1.250"x1.250"x0.1875"thick washer with
> > an 11/32" center hole. The washer is manufactured from
> > brake lining material. Dimensions and material are as
> > specified by Fairchild drawing number 48107. Drawing
> > applicability is: C8C,C8E,24G,24J, and 24W9. The drawing is
> > available from NASM or I can send you copy. Your choice.
> > Hugh Loewenhardt
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> > > Subject: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> > > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > > Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 12:37 PM
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