Re: N81271 Heater

[lenwmiller]

'Another thing I forgot to mention on our postings yesterday is that
regarding the heater installation, the aircraft has a Ranger
installed. Really need to figure out what kind of heat exchanger
might be used.
Thanks!!
Len Miller - Jet West, Reno, Nv.'

[danMichael]

'Len:

> Another thing I forgot to mention on our postings yesterday is that
> regarding the heater installation, the aircraft has a Ranger
> installed. Really need to figure out what kind of heat exchanger
> might be used.

I have a 1946 F24R and have also been curious about the stock cabin
heat arrangement. As far as I can tell, the factory drawing for the
Ranger installation isnt on the Fairchild CD, only the Warner. With
the standard exhaust collectors, a heat exchanger is not feasible since
the exhaust system is outside the cowling. My plane has a small scoop
intake at the #1 (rearmost) cylinder cooling baffling that has SCAT
tubing led to the cabin heat mixer on the firewall. I do not know if
this is stock, but it is similar to other aircraft I have seen. It
provides enough heat to warm your fingers if you put them directly in
front of the heater outlet, but its hard to reach with your right hand.


Good luck,

:Dan Michael
:NC81323'

[Bob Webster]

'My 24R (81228) has a six cylinder exhaust manifold (actually two threes that
are interconnected) and a single exhaust stack. There is a tube that is
around one inch diameter and I would guess about .125 wall thickness that
goes down the middle of the manifold and comes out at the back of the
manifold. There is flex tubing from that stub to the controller on the
firewall that sends the heat overboard or into the cabin. The front of the
tube is below the oil cooler intake where the manifold is open to the
airstream.

It blows pretty hot, but mainly on your left leg by the outlet. I haven't
flown in cold enough weather with it to see if it really makes a difference.

Bob Webster

----- Original Message -----
From: "danMichael"
To:
Cc: "lenwmiller"
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] N81271 Heater


>
> Len:
>
> > Another thing I forgot to mention on our postings yesterday is that
> > regarding the heater installation, the aircraft has a Ranger
> > installed. Really need to figure out what kind of heat exchanger
> > might be used.
>
> I have a 1946 F24R and have also been curious about the stock cabin
> heat arrangement. As far as I can tell, the factory drawing for the
> Ranger installation isnt on the Fairchild CD, only the Warner. With
> the standard exhaust collectors, a heat exchanger is not feasible since
> the exhaust system is outside the cowling. My plane has a small scoop
> intake at the #1 (rearmost) cylinder cooling baffling that has SCAT
> tubing led to the cabin heat mixer on the firewall. I do not know if
> this is stock, but it is similar to other aircraft I have seen. It
> provides enough heat to warm your fingers if you put them directly in
> front of the heater outlet, but its hard to reach with your right hand.
>
>
> Good luck,
>
> :Dan Michael
> :NC81323
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
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>

'

[harry hayman]

'I have one of this type.Condition probaly an 8.
I have no idea what it is worth,I would enertain an
offer.
Harry 904-284 4276


--- Bob Webster wrote:

> My 24R (81228) has a six cylinder exhaust manifold
> (actually two threes that
> are interconnected) and a single exhaust stack.
> There is a tube that is
> around one inch diameter and I would guess about
> .125 wall thickness that
> goes down the middle of the manifold and comes out
> at the back of the
> manifold. There is flex tubing from that stub to
> the controller on the
> firewall that sends the heat overboard or into the
> cabin. The front of the
> tube is below the oil cooler intake where the
> manifold is open to the
> airstream.
>
> It blows pretty hot, but mainly on your left leg by
> the outlet. I haven't
> flown in cold enough weather with it to see if it
> really makes a difference.
>
> Bob Webster
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "danMichael"
> To:
> Cc: "lenwmiller"
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] N81271 Heater
>
>
> >
> > Len:
> >
> > > Another thing I forgot to mention on our
> postings yesterday is that
> > > regarding the heater installation, the aircraft
> has a Ranger
> > > installed. Really need to figure out what kind
> of heat exchanger
> > > might be used.
> >
> > I have a 1946 F24R and have also been curious
> about the stock cabin
> > heat arrangement. As far as I can tell, the
> factory drawing for the
> > Ranger installation isnt on the Fairchild CD, only
> the Warner. With
> > the standard exhaust collectors, a heat exchanger
> is not feasible since
> > the exhaust system is outside the cowling. My
> plane has a small scoop
> > intake at the #1 (rearmost) cylinder cooling
> baffling that has SCAT
> > tubing led to the cabin heat mixer on the
> firewall. I do not know if
> > this is stock, but it is similar to other aircraft
> I have seen. It
> > provides enough heat to warm your fingers if you
> put them directly in
> > front of the heater outlet, but its hard to reach
> with your right hand.
> >
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > :Dan Michael
> > :NC81323
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Harry Hayman
Phone 904-284-4276
Fax 904-284-3869

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[rangerrobertmn]

'Dan:

I considered a set-up like yours, but found an acceptable
alternative. I purchased a 12 volt electric blanket. I installed a
cigarette lighter outlet, and 'presto' instant warmth. Keeps our
feet from freezing and blocks some of the cold drafts at the same
time. On really cold days, it is still a LOT warmer flying into the
sun. It helps to have a heated hangar.

Bob Waldron
1939 Fairchild 24 K
Stillwater Minnesota Brrrrrr!

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, danMichael wrote:
> Len:
>
> > Another thing I forgot to mention on our postings yesterday is
that
> > regarding the heater installation, the aircraft has a Ranger
> > installed. Really need to figure out what kind of heat
exchanger
> > might be used.
>
> I have a 1946 F24R and have also been curious about the stock
cabin
> heat arrangement. As far as I can tell, the factory drawing for
the
> Ranger installation isnt on the Fairchild CD, only the Warner.
With
> the standard exhaust collectors, a heat exchanger is not feasible
since
> the exhaust system is outside the cowling. My plane has a small
scoop
> intake at the #1 (rearmost) cylinder cooling baffling that has
SCAT
> tubing led to the cabin heat mixer on the firewall. I do not know
if
> this is stock, but it is similar to other aircraft I have seen.
It
> provides enough heat to warm your fingers if you put them directly
in
> front of the heater outlet, but its hard to reach with your right
hand.
>
>
> Good luck,
>
> :Dan Michael
> :NC81323

'