Re: PT flap lever helper

ccmueller001 · Post by **ccmueller001** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:04 am

'I'm looking for an assist lever that attaches to the end of the front cockpit flap lever control handle. It appears to be an add-on that some PTs have.

There is a photo of one in the photo group N69167. (I would add the photo to this message but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.)

Any help on finding one would be appreciated.

Charles'

docarnie · Post by **docarnie** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:38 pm

'The assist levers were most common on the pt-26 built for th RAF & RCAF. I was told or read that it made it easier to unlock the flap lever when wearing heavy gloves. You would use your hand, not just your thumb. If you have access to a parts or assembly manual, you might find a diagram and part numbers.

Arnie

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
>
> I'm looking for an assist lever that attaches to the end of the front cockpit flap lever control handle. It appears to be an add-on that some PTs have.
>
> There is a photo of one in the photo group N69167. (I would add the photo to this message but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.)
>
> Any help on finding one would be appreciated.
>
> Charles
>

'

ccmueller001 · Post by **ccmueller001** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:57 pm

'I've gone thru the PT parts manual (includes the PT-26), the microfilms I got from NASM, and the drawing CDs that I have and not found any hint of the lever. I'm betting that the Canadians came up with the add-on for the -26s they used during WW II.

Anyone have an idea of who would be a possible neighbor-to-the-north to make an inquiry too?

Charles

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "docarnie" wrote:
>
>
>
>
> The assist levers were most common on the pt-26 built for th RAF & RCAF. I was told or read that it made it easier to unlock the flap lever when wearing heavy gloves. You would use your hand, not just your thumb. If you have access to a parts or assembly manual, you might find a diagram and part numbers.
>
> Arnie
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking for an assist lever that attaches to the end of the front cockpit flap lever control handle. It appears to be an add-on that some PTs have.
> >
> > There is a photo of one in the photo group N69167. (I would add the photo to this message but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.)
> >
> > Any help on finding one would be appreciated.
> >
> > Charles
> >
>

'

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:32 pm

'Charles,
The RCAF "Cornell, Scedule of Spare Parts" - C.A.P. 347 shows an arrangement similar to the one in your photograph but with a bent, rather than straight, lever. Is this what you are looking for?
Tony Broadhurst
C.A. Broadhurst
Grimsby, England.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
>
> I've gone thru the PT parts manual (includes the PT-26), the microfilms I got from NASM, and the drawing CDs that I have and not found any hint of the lever. I'm betting that the Canadians came up with the add-on for the -26s they used during WW II.
>
> Anyone have an idea of who would be a possible neighbor-to-the-north to make an inquiry too?
>
> Charles
>
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "docarnie" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The assist levers were most common on the pt-26 built for th RAF & RCAF. I was told or read that it made it easier to unlock the flap lever when wearing heavy gloves. You would use your hand, not just your thumb. If you have access to a parts or assembly manual, you might find a diagram and part numbers.
> >
> > Arnie
> > --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm looking for an assist lever that attaches to the end of the front cockpit flap lever control handle. It appears to be an add-on that some PTs have.
> > >
> > > There is a photo of one in the photo group N69167. (I would add the photo to this message but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.)
> > >
> > > Any help on finding one would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Charles
> > >
> >
>

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Curt Kinchen · Post by **Curt Kinchen** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:37 pm

'Charles, the PT-26( with uncovered fuselage) in the Pima County Air Museum
has the flap assist lever installed. Perhaps one of their
docents/volunteers would be interested in taking on the project of
photographing, sketching, taking dimensions, etc. necessary to reproduce
one?

I was down their recently and a lot of their volunteers seemed pretty under
utilized. Worth a try.

See the picture at the link below.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-margie/8146464774/sizes/h/in/photostream/

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Charles wrote:

> **
>
>
> Charles,
> The RCAF "Cornell, Scedule of Spare Parts" - C.A.P. 347 shows an
> arrangement similar to the one in your photograph but with a bent, rather
> than straight, lever. Is this what you are looking for?
> Tony Broadhurst
> C.A. Broadhurst
> Grimsby, England.
>
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
> >
> > I've gone thru the PT parts manual (includes the PT-26), the microfilms
> I got from NASM, and the drawing CDs that I have and not found any hint of
> the lever. I'm betting that the Canadians came up with the add-on for the
> -26s they used during WW II.
> >
> > Anyone have an idea of who would be a possible neighbor-to-the-north to
> make an inquiry too?
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> > --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "docarnie" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The assist levers were most common on the pt-26 built for th RAF &
> RCAF. I was told or read that it made it easier to unlock the flap lever
> when wearing heavy gloves. You would use your hand, not just your thumb. If
> you have access to a parts or assembly manual, you might find a diagram and
> part numbers.
> > >
> > > Arnie
> > > --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking for an assist lever that attaches to the end of the
> front cockpit flap lever control handle. It appears to be an add-on that
> some PTs have.
> > > >
> > > > There is a photo of one in the photo group N69167. (I would add the
> photo to this message but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.)
> > > >
> > > > Any help on finding one would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Charles
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

--
Curt Kinchen
ptcurt@gmail.com

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Jeffrey Whitesell · Post by **Jeffrey Whitesell** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:55 am

'Fellow Fairchild Flyers

I teach in a PT-19 in Camarillo Ca.....and I would be very interested in learning about this assist lever - the only complaint I have about the airplane is that it is cumbersome (especially for new students) to reach down far enough to activate the flaps- in the front pit, they have to scrunch down and forward a bit, and it seems inevitable that when they do, the nose of the airplane drops, the airspeed runs away, etc etc.

Jeff Whitesell

On Jan 21, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Curt Kinchen wrote:

> Charles, the PT-26( with uncovered fuselage) in the Pima County Air Museum
> has the flap assist lever installed. Perhaps one of their
> docents/volunteers would be interested in taking on the project of
> photographing, sketching, taking dimensions, etc. necessary to reproduce
> one?
>
> I was down their recently and a lot of their volunteers seemed pretty under
> utilized. Worth a try.
>
> See the picture at the link below.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-margie/8146464774/sizes/h/in/photostream/
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Charles wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Charles,
>> The RCAF "Cornell, Scedule of Spare Parts" - C.A.P. 347 shows an
>> arrangement similar to the one in your photograph but with a bent, rather
>> than straight, lever. Is this what you are looking for?
>> Tony Broadhurst
>> C.A. Broadhurst
>> Grimsby, England.
>>
>>
>> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
>>>
>>> I've gone thru the PT parts manual (includes the PT-26), the microfilms
>> I got from NASM, and the drawing CDs that I have and not found any hint of
>> the lever. I'm betting that the Canadians came up with the add-on for the
>> -26s they used during WW II.
>>>
>>> Anyone have an idea of who would be a possible neighbor-to-the-north to
>> make an inquiry too?
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "docarnie" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The assist levers were most common on the pt-26 built for th RAF &
>> RCAF. I was told or read that it made it easier to unlock the flap lever
>> when wearing heavy gloves. You would use your hand, not just your thumb. If
>> you have access to a parts or assembly manual, you might find a diagram and
>> part numbers.
>>>>
>>>> Arnie
>>>> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for an assist lever that attaches to the end of the
>> front cockpit flap lever control handle. It appears to be an add-on that
>> some PTs have.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a photo of one in the photo group N69167. (I would add the
>> photo to this message but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Any help on finding one would be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Kinchen
> ptcurt@gmail.com
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

---
Jeff Whitesell
topfun@fivetogether.com

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ccmueller001 · Post by **ccmueller001** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:55 am

'Jeff,

There is a PT-26 project at the Santa Paula airport that has the assist lever. That's where I got the photo shown in photo file N69167.

Charles

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Whitesell wrote:
>
> Fellow Fairchild Flyers
>
> I teach in a PT-19 in Camarillo Ca.....and I would be very interested in learning about this assist lever - the only complaint I have about the airplane is that it is cumbersome (especially for new students) to reach down far enough to activate the flaps- in the front pit, they have to scrunch down and forward a bit, and it seems inevitable that when they do, the nose of the airplane drops, the airspeed runs away, etc etc.
>
> Jeff Whitesell
>
> On Jan 21, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Curt Kinchen wrote:
>
> > Charles, the PT-26( with uncovered fuselage) in the Pima County Air Museum
> > has the flap assist lever installed. Perhaps one of their
> > docents/volunteers would be interested in taking on the project of
> > photographing, sketching, taking dimensions, etc. necessary to reproduce
> > one?
> >
> > I was down their recently and a lot of their volunteers seemed pretty under
> > utilized. Worth a try.
> >
> > See the picture at the link below.
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-margie/8146464774/sizes/h/in/photostream/
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Charles wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Charles,
> >> The RCAF "Cornell, Scedule of Spare Parts" - C.A.P. 347 shows an
> >> arrangement similar to the one in your photograph but with a bent, rather
> >> than straight, lever. Is this what you are looking for?
> >> Tony Broadhurst
> >> C.A. Broadhurst
> >> Grimsby, England.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I've gone thru the PT parts manual (includes the PT-26), the microfilms
> >> I got from NASM, and the drawing CDs that I have and not found any hint of
> >> the lever. I'm betting that the Canadians came up with the add-on for the
> >> -26s they used during WW II.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have an idea of who would be a possible neighbor-to-the-north to
> >> make an inquiry too?
> >>>
> >>> Charles
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "docarnie" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The assist levers were most common on the pt-26 built for th RAF &
> >> RCAF. I was told or read that it made it easier to unlock the flap lever
> >> when wearing heavy gloves. You would use your hand, not just your thumb. If
> >> you have access to a parts or assembly manual, you might find a diagram and
> >> part numbers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Arnie
> >>>> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm looking for an assist lever that attaches to the end of the
> >> front cockpit flap lever control handle. It appears to be an add-on that
> >> some PTs have.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is a photo of one in the photo group N69167. (I would add the
> >> photo to this message but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any help on finding one would be appreciated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Charles
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Curt Kinchen
> > ptcurt@...
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> ---
> Jeff Whitesell
> topfun@...
>

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