SV: [fairchildclub] hot start probs

[bty697859]

'Hi guys
I have been having problems hot starting my ranger engine (200hp)
it ushally occurs after I have left the a/c for a hour or so?
what am I doing wrong?

Best regards'

[John Ellis]

'If it starts easy when cold, I would check coils in the mags.

----- Original Message -----
From: "bty697859"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:39 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] hot start probs


> Hi guys
> I have been having problems hot starting my ranger engine (200hp)
> it ushally occurs after I have left the a/c for a hour or so?
> what am I doing wrong?
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

'

[Bob]

'Hi whoever you are,

If your airplane has 60 year old mags that have never been serviced, you should look into Fresno Air Parts rebuilts (for $425.00 each). Great mags and will eliminate most problems. I think they sell new coils for $100.00.

Coils fail when they get old or when they get hot. If you have ever flown an airplane when BOTH coils fail in flight, you will appreciate the comfortable feeling of flying with new coils.

Bob Waldron
Webster, MN
1939 Fairchild 24K

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bty697859" wrote:
>
> Hi guys
> I have been having problems hot starting my ranger engine (200hp)
> it ushally occurs after I have left the a/c for a hour or so?
> what am I doing wrong?
>
> Best regards
>

'

[Fritz Mehrer]

'Bob is correct, I have had the pleasure of BOTH mags failing in
flight. Very exciting...!!
Fritz

-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:00 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: hot start probs

Hi whoever you are,

If your airplane has 60 year old mags that have never been serviced,
you should look into Fresno Air Parts rebuilts (for $425.00 each).
Great mags and will eliminate most problems. I think they sell new
coils for $100.00.

Coils fail when they get old or when they get hot. If you have ever
flown an airplane when BOTH coils fail in flight, you will appreciate
the comfortable feeling of flying with new coils.

Bob Waldron
Webster, MN
1939 Fairchild 24K

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bty697859"
wrote:

>
> Hi guys
> I have been having problems hot starting my ranger engine (200hp)

it

> ushally occurs after I have left the a/c for a hour or so?
> what am I doing wrong?
>
> Best regards
>

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Yahoo! Groups Links'

[jameslbryan@btopenworld.com]

'Hi guys many thanks for your replys, they were new mags about 8years ago. She goes in the end after pulling the mixture and giving full throttle and cleaning it out......? The mags were done by a previous owner so ill do the coils anyway. My plugs are a bit worn? So I may do those as well......
James Bryan


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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 18:11 BST Fritz Mehrer wrote:

>Bob is correct, I have had the pleasure of BOTH mags failing in
>flight. Very exciting...!!
>Fritz
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob
>Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:00 AM
>To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: hot start probs
>
>Hi whoever you are,
>
>If your airplane has 60 year old mags that have never been serviced,
>you should look into Fresno Air Parts rebuilts (for $425.00 each).
>Great mags and will eliminate most problems. I think they sell new
>coils for $100.00.
>
>Coils fail when they get old or when they get hot. If you have ever
>flown an airplane when BOTH coils fail in flight, you will appreciate
>the comfortable feeling of flying with new coils.
>
>Bob Waldron
>Webster, MN
>1939 Fairchild 24K
>
>--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bty697859"
>wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys
>> I have been having problems hot starting my ranger engine (200hp)
>it
>> ushally occurs after I have left the a/c for a hour or so?
>> what am I doing wrong?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

'

[Gene Haines]

'It is possible that the Carb was never overhauled since new. After an overhaul on carb we never had any problems starting.




-----Original Message-----
From: jameslbryan
To: fairchildclub
Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 5:23 pm
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Re: hot start probs







Hi guys many thanks for your replys, they were new mags about 8years ago. She goes in the end after pulling the mixture and giving full throttle and cleaning it out......? The mags were done by a previous owner so ill do the coils anyway. My plugs are a bit worn? So I may do those as well......
James Bryan

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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 18:11 BST Fritz Mehrer wrote:

>Bob is correct, I have had the pleasure of BOTH mags failing in
>flight. Very exciting...!!
>Fritz
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob
>Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:00 AM
>To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: hot start probs
>
>Hi whoever you are,
>
>If your airplane has 60 year old mags that have never been serviced,
>you should look into Fresno Air Parts rebuilts (for $425.00 each).
>Great mags and will eliminate most problems. I think they sell new
>coils for $100.00.
>
>Coils fail when they get old or when they get hot. If you have ever
>flown an airplane when BOTH coils fail in flight, you will appreciate
>the comfortable feeling of flying with new coils.
>
>Bob Waldron
>Webster, MN
>1939 Fairchild 24K
>
>--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bty697859"
>wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys
>> I have been having problems hot starting my ranger engine (200hp)
>it
>> ushally occurs after I have left the a/c for a hour or so?
>> what am I doing wrong?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>









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'

[Craig Stone]

'I had this exact problem a number of years ago. While I can't give you
the exact reasons, after we changed out the carb I never had the
problem again.

Craig Stone
N81204'

[Cy Galley]

'I would clean the plugs first. Then check the internal resistance of the center electrode of each plug. Should be 4000 ohms or less.





Cy Galley - Chair, AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair

A service project of EAA Chapter 75 since 1963

www.eaa75.com







From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jameslbryan@btopenworld.com
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 4:23 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Re: hot start probs







Hi guys many thanks for your replys, they were new mags about 8years ago. She goes in the end after pulling the mixture and giving full throttle and cleaning it out......? The mags were done by a previous owner so ill do the coils anyway. My plugs are a bit worn? So I may do those as well......
James Bryan

------------------------------

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 18:11 BST Fritz Mehrer wrote:

>Bob is correct, I have had the pleasure of BOTH mags failing in
>flight. Very exciting...!!
>Fritz
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Bob
>Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:00 AM
>To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: hot start probs
>
>Hi whoever you are,
>
>If your airplane has 60 year old mags that have never been serviced,
>you should look into Fresno Air Parts rebuilts (for $425.00 each).
>Great mags and will eliminate most problems. I think they sell new
>coils for $100.00.
>
>Coils fail when they get old or when they get hot. If you have ever
>flown an airplane when BOTH coils fail in flight, you will appreciate
>the comfortable feeling of flying with new coils.
>
>Bob Waldron
>Webster, MN
>1939 Fairchild 24K
>
>--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com , "bty697859"
>wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys
>> I have been having problems hot starting my ranger engine (200hp)
>it
>> ushally occurs after I have left the a/c for a hour or so?
>> what am I doing wrong?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>





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[bty697859]

'Hi guys
I have been having problems hot starting my ranger engine (200hp)
it ushally occurs after I have left the a/c for a hour or so?
what am I doing wrong?

Best regards'

[paul pinato]

'Hi

It can be several issues.

The first thing is that the heat is causing vapor
look in the fuel lines. It should start on the
primer and then quit. Insulation on the fuel line
may help.

Second: you are not priming enough. Soak it and
then start it with the fuel mixture in lean and
throttle in max.. A.s.a. it fires push to rich and
pull to idle.

Be aware of possible carb fire.



Third. Your coils in the mags are old and they
normally get sensitive to heat. As long you run
the engine, temperatures may stay at a low level
but when you cut it off, the heat will spread and
weaken them.



Best reg

Paul

UC61A



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Hi guys
I have been having problems hot starting my ranger
engine (200hp)
it ushally occurs after I have left the a/c for a
hour or so?
what am I doing wrong?

Best regards





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