'Is anyone aware of a commercially available tow bar that will function on the tailwheel of a 24? Grumman, Ercoupe etc? I like the collapsable Bogi-Bars, but have no clue what may fit/work.
Happy Thanksgiving, Bill'
Re: Fairchild 24 Tailwheel Tow Bar
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ccmueller001
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Re: Fairchild 24 Tailwheel Tow Bar
'It appeared that the tail wheels of the PTs and 24s were the same so I ordered the Bogert 4-F24 to try. Also got an offset extender since the PT rudder seems to go down lower then the 24s.
The 4-F24 works great, and the extender helps me by not having to bend over so much. I don't recall the extender number but can check for that when I get over to the hangar this afternoon.
Hope you T-day was great.
Charles
The 4-F24 works great, and the extender helps me by not having to bend over so much. I don't recall the extender number but can check for that when I get over to the hangar this afternoon.
Hope you T-day was great.
Charles
'--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" wrote:
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> Is anyone aware of a commercially available tow bar that will function on the tailwheel of a 24? Grumman, Ercoupe etc? I like the collapsable Bogi-Bars, but have no clue what may fit/work.
> Happy Thanksgiving, Bill
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mcclurebill@rocketmail.com
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Re: Fairchild 24 Tailwheel Tow Bar
'I bought a "Tailwheel Transporter" from an ad on Barnstormers. I have mixed experience with it, but it has potential. It lifts the tailwheel off the ground, which I think is good, and has three wheels, the front steerable, of course. I had to modify the latch on the top in order to keep it from slipping off, dropping the lever arm. It appeared thereafter to have a tendency to bend the lifting arm further, causing the arm allow the tailwheel tire to contact the ground. I've since realized that the arms that grab the wheel fore and aft tend to slip unless the locking screw is extremely tight. Mostly, though, it has been OK if you are pushing or pulling the plane in a straight line. Then, it seems you can move it alone, but if manuevering is necessary you need another to help. If the steerable wheel is not straight it is difficult to push the plane and thereby aligning the wheel.
One view. The manufacturer said in response to some complaints I had with it, that the tailwheel load should not exceed a certain amount, I think 100 lbs. Not sure what it is on the 24, but should be less.So, kind of a mixed bag, for what it costs.'
One view. The manufacturer said in response to some complaints I had with it, that the tailwheel load should not exceed a certain amount, I think 100 lbs. Not sure what it is on the 24, but should be less.So, kind of a mixed bag, for what it costs.'
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William Creighton
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Re: Fairchild 24 Tailwheel Tow Bar
'Thanks for your insight, Bill. I tried using my old TailDragger Dragger tow bar that I used on my Luscombe, and had similar issues with the wheel slipping from the supporting bars. Sometimes at the worst times (downhill roll), so I just abandoned the idea. Guessing the Tailwheel Transporter has similar issues. Probably perfect for 120/140,s, Cubs, Luscombes, etc. but will not work well for a heavy Fairchild. BTW, I'll bet the tailwheel, at least on my 24, is all of 100 lbs. I tried lifting, and didn't budge it an inch... I've got an old electric 'Pul-air Bear' that I bought that I'll eventually figure out how to modify to pull-push the 24. In the meantime, a simple collapsible tailwheel bar would meet my needs - one I can tote with me. Just not certain what will fit...
Happy Holidays,Bill C.
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
From: burnmcc@aol.com
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:45:09 +0000
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Fairchild 24 Tailwheel Tow Bar
I bought a "Tailwheel Transporter" from an ad on Barnstormers. I have mixed experience with it, but it has potential. It lifts the tailwheel off the ground, which I think is good, and has three wheels, the front steerable, of course. I had to modify the latch on the top in order to keep it from slipping off, dropping the lever arm. It appeared thereafter to have a tendency to bend the lifting arm further, causing the arm allow the tailwheel tire to contact the ground. I've since realized that the arms that grab the wheel fore and aft tend to slip unless the locking screw is extremely tight. Mostly, though, it has been OK if you are pushing or pulling the plane in a straight line. Then, it seems you can move it alone, but if manuevering is necessary you need another to help. If the steerable wheel is not straight it is difficult to push the plane and thereby aligning the wheel.
One view. The manufacturer said in response to some complaints I had with it, that the tailwheel load should not exceed a certain amount, I think 100 lbs. Not sure what it is on the 24, but should be less.So, kind of a mixed bag, for what it costs.
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Happy Holidays,Bill C.
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
From: burnmcc@aol.com
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:45:09 +0000
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Fairchild 24 Tailwheel Tow Bar
I bought a "Tailwheel Transporter" from an ad on Barnstormers. I have mixed experience with it, but it has potential. It lifts the tailwheel off the ground, which I think is good, and has three wheels, the front steerable, of course. I had to modify the latch on the top in order to keep it from slipping off, dropping the lever arm. It appeared thereafter to have a tendency to bend the lifting arm further, causing the arm allow the tailwheel tire to contact the ground. I've since realized that the arms that grab the wheel fore and aft tend to slip unless the locking screw is extremely tight. Mostly, though, it has been OK if you are pushing or pulling the plane in a straight line. Then, it seems you can move it alone, but if manuevering is necessary you need another to help. If the steerable wheel is not straight it is difficult to push the plane and thereby aligning the wheel.
One view. The manufacturer said in response to some complaints I had with it, that the tailwheel load should not exceed a certain amount, I think 100 lbs. Not sure what it is on the 24, but should be less.So, kind of a mixed bag, for what it costs.
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William Creighton
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Re: Fairchild 24 Tailwheel Tow Bar
'Charles, I'll look this up online today. Any addional info appreciated! Thanks, and Happy Holidays, Bill C. To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
From: ccm2@sbcglobal.net
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:25:15 +0000
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Fairchild 24 Tailwheel Tow Bar
It appeared that the tail wheels of the PTs and 24s were the same so I ordered the Bogert 4-F24 to try. Also got an offset extender since the PT rudder seems to go down lower then the 24s.
The 4-F24 works great, and the extender helps me by not having to bend over so much. I don't recall the extender number but can check for that when I get over to the hangar this afternoon.
Hope you T-day was great.
Charles
From: ccm2@sbcglobal.net
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:25:15 +0000
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Fairchild 24 Tailwheel Tow Bar
It appeared that the tail wheels of the PTs and 24s were the same so I ordered the Bogert 4-F24 to try. Also got an offset extender since the PT rudder seems to go down lower then the 24s.
The 4-F24 works great, and the extender helps me by not having to bend over so much. I don't recall the extender number but can check for that when I get over to the hangar this afternoon.
Hope you T-day was great.
Charles
'--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" wrote:
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> Is anyone aware of a commercially available tow bar that will function on the tailwheel of a 24? Grumman, Ercoupe etc? I like the collapsable Bogi-Bars, but have no clue what may fit/work.
> Happy Thanksgiving, Bill
>
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ccmueller001
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Re: Fairchild 24 Tailwheel Tow Bar
'There is a photo of my Bogert towbar in album N69167 (although it hadn't showed up when I posted this note).
It is p/n F24 Bogi-Bar for F-24 ($89) plus the p/n 04M Bogi-Bar Drop Handle ($35) that adds a second grip a foot or so above the F24 bar handle. That works really well for the lower rudder on the PT and my back.
I'm not so sure on the price, seems they listed a different one on their website. I got my bar earlier this month.
If that photo doesn't show up send me your email address and I'll forward the photo directly.
Charles
It is p/n F24 Bogi-Bar for F-24 ($89) plus the p/n 04M Bogi-Bar Drop Handle ($35) that adds a second grip a foot or so above the F24 bar handle. That works really well for the lower rudder on the PT and my back.
I'm not so sure on the price, seems they listed a different one on their website. I got my bar earlier this month.
If that photo doesn't show up send me your email address and I'll forward the photo directly.
Charles
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> Charles, I'll look this up online today. Any addional info appreciated! Thanks, and Happy Holidays, Bill C. To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> From: ccm2@...
> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:25:15 +0000
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Fairchild 24 Tailwheel Tow Bar
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danMichael
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Re: Fairchild 24 Tailwheel Tow Bar
'On Nov 25, 2011, at 8:45 AM, mcclurebill@rocketmail.com wrote:
'> One view. The manufacturer said in response to some complaints I had with it, that the tailwheel load should not exceed a certain amount, I think 100 lbs. Not sure what it is on the 24, but should be less.
On Nov 25, 2011, at 11:29 AM, William Creighton wrote:
> BTW, I'll bet the tailwheel, at least on my 24, is all of 100 lbs.
The original weight and balance on my 24 indicates the weight on the tailwheel at 152 lbs. With full fuel tanks (360 lbs @ +24") and the usual stuff in the baggage compartment, tail weight is around 200 lbs.
:Dan Michael
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Bill McClure
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Re: Fairchild 24 Tailwheel Tow Bar
'Well, I hadn't noticed wt limit before I bought it off Barnstormers ad. My take is anything that light probably doesn't really need a dragger! I don't use it on our Citabria, eg.
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'On Nov 25, 2011, at 9:45 AM, "mcclurebill@rocketmail.com" wrote:
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> I bought a "Tailwheel Transporter" from an ad on Barnstormers. I have mixed experience with it, but it has potential. It lifts the tailwheel off the ground, which I think is good, and has three wheels, the front steerable, of course. I had to modify the latch on the top in order to keep it from slipping off, dropping the lever arm. It appeared thereafter to have a tendency to bend the lifting arm further, causing the arm allow the tailwheel tire to contact the ground. I've since realized that the arms that grab the wheel fore and aft tend to slip unless the locking screw is extremely tight. Mostly, though, it has been OK if you are pushing or pulling the plane in a straight line. Then, it seems you can move it alone, but if manuevering is necessary you need another to help. If the steerable wheel is not straight it is difficult to push the plane and thereby aligning the wheel.
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> One view. The manufacturer said in response to some complaints I had with it, that the tailwheel load should not exceed a certain amount, I think 100 lbs. Not sure what it is on the 24, but should be less.So, kind of a mixed bag, for what it costs.
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