Re: Tom Downey's website

Patricia Banks · Post by **Patricia Banks** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:38 pm

'Hello everyone! My name is Matt and I am new to the group. I have an urgent need that I am hoping that someone can assist me with. I have an agreement to purchase a Fairchild F24. The airplane is out of state and I am trying to make arrangements to go get her. I have several problems. First problem is that the airplane is out of annual. Getting it in annual is not very practical due to the distance and time required but a ferry permit should not be an issue. Next problem is that I can not get insurance to fly it home unless I get an hour of dual in a Fairchild 24. I Can't very well get dual in an airplane that is out of annual not to mention that the owner passed away and I don't have a qualified pilot for the dual instruction or in reality an airplane to do it in. The plane is in MT and the FAA database shows a few 24 owners near by. Reidar Ilvedson in Forsyth and Jimmie Crump in Bozeman. I am in Atlanta GA and there are a few owners listed in
this area as well but I have not been able to get in contact with any of them. The winter weather is setting in and I have to act fast or the window will close until spring.
Can anyone help? I am getting desperate here. I keep hitting road blocks at every turn. I am in love with this airplane and don't want to give up. Taking her apart and trailering is a last option and I don't really want to risk damaging the plane in dis assembly and transport.

Any assistance or advice is greatly appreciated ...

Regards,

Matt

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plsurflyin@aol.com · Post by **plsurflyin@aol.com** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:37 pm

'I"m current and have the time to fly her down if you can get her in annual.
List me on your insurance for the flight and it's a go.

In a message dated 10/15/2008 8:39:01 P.M. Central America Standard ,
flyingbanks@yahoo.com writes:

Hello everyone! My name is Matt and I am new to the group. I have an urgent
need that I am hoping that someone can assist me with. I have an agreement
to purchase a Fairchild F24. The airplane is out of state and I am trying to
make arrangements to go get her. I have several problems. First problem is
that the airplane is out of annual. Getting it in annual is not very practical
due to the distance and time required but a ferry permit should not be an
issue. Next problem is that I can not get insurance to fly it home unless I get
an hour of dual in a Fairchild 24. I Can't very well get dual in an airplane
that is out of annual not to mention that the owner passed away and I don't
have a qualified pilot for the dual instruction or in reality an airplane to
do it in. The plane is in MT and the FAA database shows a few 24 owners near
by. Reidar Ilvedson in Forsyth and Jimmie Crump in Bozeman. I am in Atlanta GA
and there are a few owners listed in
this area as well but I have not been able to get in contact with any of
them. The winter weather is setting in and I have to act fast or the window will
close until spring.
Can anyone help? I am getting desperate here. I keep hitting road blocks at
every turn. I am in love with this airplane and don't want to give up.
Taking her apart and trailering is a last option and I don't really want to risk
damaging the plane in dis assembly and transport.

Any assistance or advice is greatly appreciated ...

Regards,

Matt

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Tom Downey · Post by **Tom Downey** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:18 pm

'--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Patricia Banks
wrote:

>
> Hello everyone! My name is Matt and I am new to the group. I have

an urgent need that I am hoping that someone can assist me with. I
have an agreement to purchase a Fairchild F24. The airplane is out
of state and I am trying to make arrangements to go get her. I have
several problems. First problem is that the airplane is out of
annual. Getting it in annual is not very practical due to the
distance and time required but a ferry permit should not be an
issue. Next problem is that I can not get insurance to fly it home
unless I get an hour of dual in a Fairchild 24. I Can't very well
get dual in an airplane that is out of annual not to mention that
the owner passed away and I don't have a qualified pilot for the
dual instruction or in reality an airplane to do it in. The plane is
in MT and the FAA database shows a few 24 owners near by. Reidar
Ilvedson in Forsyth and Jimmie Crump in Bozeman. I am in Atlanta GA
and there are a few owners listed in

> this area as well but I have not been able to get in contact with

any of them. The winter weather is setting in and I have to act fast
or the window will close until spring.

> Can anyone help? I am getting desperate here. I keep hitting road

blocks at every turn. I am in love with this airplane and don't want
to give up. Taking her apart and trailering is a last option and I
don't really want to risk damaging the plane in dis assembly and
transport.

>
> Any assistance or advice is greatly appreciated ...
>
> Regards,
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I am current, I am an A&P-IA I can do the Prebuy and or annual, I
own NC19143 I am retired and have time.
http://www.whidbey.con/fairchild-nc19143/'

Tom Downey · Post by **Tom Downey** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:25 pm

'--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Downey"
wrote:

>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Patricia Banks
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone! My name is Matt and I am new to the group. I

have

> an urgent need that I am hoping that someone can assist me with. I
> have an agreement to purchase a Fairchild F24. The airplane is out
> of state and I am trying to make arrangements to go get her. I

have

> several problems. First problem is that the airplane is out of
> annual. Getting it in annual is not very practical due to the
> distance and time required but a ferry permit should not be an
> issue. Next problem is that I can not get insurance to fly it home
> unless I get an hour of dual in a Fairchild 24. I Can't very well
> get dual in an airplane that is out of annual not to mention that
> the owner passed away and I don't have a qualified pilot for the
> dual instruction or in reality an airplane to do it in. The plane

is

> in MT and the FAA database shows a few 24 owners near by. Reidar
> Ilvedson in Forsyth and Jimmie Crump in Bozeman. I am in Atlanta

GA

> and there are a few owners listed in
> > this area as well but I have not been able to get in contact

with

> any of them. The winter weather is setting in and I have to act

fast

> or the window will close until spring.
> > Can anyone help? I am getting desperate here. I keep hitting

road

> blocks at every turn. I am in love with this airplane and don't

want

> to give up. Taking her apart and trailering is a last option and

I

> don't really want to risk damaging the plane in dis assembly and
> transport.
> >
> > Any assistance or advice is greatly appreciated ...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> I am current, I am an A&P-IA I can do the Prebuy and or annual, I
> own NC19143 I am retired and have time.
> http://www.whidbey.con/fairchild-nc19143/

call 1-360-675-2117'

Patricia Banks · Post by **Patricia Banks** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:20 am

'Tom,
I have two replys from you but there is no text ... did you intend to write something and it didn't come through?

Matt

--- On Thu, 10/16/08, Tom Downey wrote:

From: Tom Downey
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: In need of help !
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 1:25 AM

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Downey"

wrote:
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Patricia Banks
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone! My name is Matt and I am new to the group. I
have
> an urgent need that I am hoping that someone can assist me with. I
> have an agreement to purchase a Fairchild F24. The airplane is out
> of state and I am trying to make arrangements to go get her. I
have
> several problems. First problem is that the airplane is out of
> annual. Getting it in annual is not very practical due to the
> distance and time required but a ferry permit should not be an
> issue. Next problem is that I can not get insurance to fly it home
> unless I get an hour of dual in a Fairchild 24. I Can't very well
> get dual in an airplane that is out of annual not to mention that
> the owner passed away and I don't have a qualified pilot for the
> dual instruction or in reality an airplane to do it in. The plane
is
> in MT and the FAA database shows a few 24 owners near by. Reidar
> Ilvedson in Forsyth and Jimmie Crump in Bozeman. I am in Atlanta
GA
> and there are a few owners listed in
> > this area as well but I have not been able to get in contact
with
> any of them. The winter weather is setting in and I have to act
fast
> or the window will close until spring.
> > Can anyone help? I am getting desperate here. I keep hitting
road
> blocks at every turn. I am in love with this airplane and don't
want
> to give up. Taking her apart and trailering is a last option and
I
> don't really want to risk damaging the plane in dis assembly and
> transport.
> >
> > Any assistance or advice is greatly appreciated ...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> I am current, I am an A&P-IA I can do the Prebuy and or annual, I
> own NC19143 I am retired and have time.
> http://www.whidbey.con/fairchild-nc19143/
call 1-360-675-2117

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Patricia Banks · Post by **Patricia Banks** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:35 am

'I would prefer to have it in annual but I'm not sure that is going to be possible .. getting the plane in a shop and getting the guys up there to work on it is a logistical nightmare, not to mention very costly. The plane is in very good condition it just hasn't flown in a few years. The last annual was about 18 months ago and it was not flown even after the annual was done. I have spoken to the A&P that did the last annual and he said that getting the plane airworthy and obtaining a ferry permit would not be a problem but he didn't really have time to do the annual.
Where are you located and besides travel, food & lodging, what would you charge me to fly it to Atlanta, GA? It's about 10-12 hours of flying.

Matt

--- On Wed, 10/15/08, plsurflyin@aol.com wrote:

From: plsurflyin@aol.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] In need of help !
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 11:37 PM

I"m current and have the time to fly her down if you can get her in annual.

List me on your insurance for the flight and it's a go.

In a message dated 10/15/2008 8:39:01 P.M. Central America Standard ,
flyingbanks@yahoo.com writes:

Hello everyone! My name is Matt and I am new to the group. I have an urgent
need that I am hoping that someone can assist me with. I have an agreement
to purchase a Fairchild F24. The airplane is out of state and I am trying to
make arrangements to go get her. I have several problems. First problem is
that the airplane is out of annual. Getting it in annual is not very practical

due to the distance and time required but a ferry permit should not be an
issue. Next problem is that I can not get insurance to fly it home unless I
get
an hour of dual in a Fairchild 24. I Can't very well get dual in an
airplane
that is out of annual not to mention that the owner passed away and I
don't
have a qualified pilot for the dual instruction or in reality an airplane to
do it in. The plane is in MT and the FAA database shows a few 24 owners near
by. Reidar Ilvedson in Forsyth and Jimmie Crump in Bozeman. I am in Atlanta GA

and there are a few owners listed in
this area as well but I have not been able to get in contact with any of
them. The winter weather is setting in and I have to act fast or the window
will
close until spring.
Can anyone help? I am getting desperate here. I keep hitting road blocks at
every turn. I am in love with this airplane and don't want to give up.
Taking her apart and trailering is a last option and I don't really want
to risk
damaging the plane in dis assembly and transport.

Any assistance or advice is greatly appreciated ...

Regards,

Matt

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David Stroud · Post by **David Stroud** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:07 am

'Let's do it Tom...I'll come down just to carry your bags !

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV

----- Original Message -----
From: Patricia Banks
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] In need of help !

I would prefer to have it in annual but I'm not sure that is going to be possible .. getting the plane in a shop and getting the guys up there to work on it is a logistical nightmare, not to mention very costly. The plane is in very good condition it just hasn't flown in a few years. The last annual was about 18 months ago and it was not flown even after the annual was done. I have spoken to the A&P that did the last annual and he said that getting the plane airworthy and obtaining a ferry permit would not be a problem but he didn't really have time to do the annual.
Where are you located and besides travel, food & lodging, what would you charge me to fly it to Atlanta, GA? It's about 10-12 hours of flying.

Matt

--- On Wed, 10/15/08, plsurflyin@aol.com wrote:

From: plsurflyin@aol.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] In need of help !
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 11:37 PM

I"m current and have the time to fly her down if you can get her in annual.

List me on your insurance for the flight and it's a go.

In a message dated 10/15/2008 8:39:01 P.M. Central America Standard ,
flyingbanks@yahoo.com writes:

Hello everyone! My name is Matt and I am new to the group. I have an urgent
need that I am hoping that someone can assist me with. I have an agreement
to purchase a Fairchild F24. The airplane is out of state and I am trying to
make arrangements to go get her. I have several problems. First problem is
that the airplane is out of annual. Getting it in annual is not very practical

due to the distance and time required but a ferry permit should not be an
issue. Next problem is that I can not get insurance to fly it home unless I
get
an hour of dual in a Fairchild 24. I Can't very well get dual in an
airplane
that is out of annual not to mention that the owner passed away and I
don't
have a qualified pilot for the dual instruction or in reality an airplane to
do it in. The plane is in MT and the FAA database shows a few 24 owners near
by. Reidar Ilvedson in Forsyth and Jimmie Crump in Bozeman. I am in Atlanta GA

and there are a few owners listed in
this area as well but I have not been able to get in contact with any of
them. The winter weather is setting in and I have to act fast or the window
will
close until spring.
Can anyone help? I am getting desperate here. I keep hitting road blocks at
every turn. I am in love with this airplane and don't want to give up.
Taking her apart and trailering is a last option and I don't really want
to risk
damaging the plane in dis assembly and transport.

Any assistance or advice is greatly appreciated ...

Regards,

Matt

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today!
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David Stroud · Post by **David Stroud** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:09 am

'Giday Tom. A local buddy spotted your engine start on you tube and I directed
him to your website for a full look at your restoration. He couldn't open the link
and neither could I. Has something changed with the web address?

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV

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flyingbanks · Post by **flyingbanks** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:43 am

'Hi Tom,

Where are you located? Anywhere near billings MT? I am not a wealthy
individual so forgive me for asking, but what would you normally
charge for your services? I have to make this move on a limited
budget and hauling it home in a truck is looking like the most cost
effective. I offered to assist the A&P in MT on the annual but he
hasn't even agreed to do an annual.. access to tools and suitable
facilities may be a problem. Getting the annual would be great
because then maybe I could get the needed dual to fly the thing home
myself. Ferry permit would be fine if I had a qualified pilot along
and can get insurance. I would like to be on the trip as well. FSDO
would probably approve but I don't know for sure yet.

Thanks for the interest and help Tom !

Matt

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Downey"
wrote:

>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Downey"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Patricia Banks
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everyone! My name is Matt and I am new to the group. I
> have
> > an urgent need that I am hoping that someone can assist me with.

I

> > have an agreement to purchase a Fairchild F24. The airplane is

out

> > of state and I am trying to make arrangements to go get her. I
> have
> > several problems. First problem is that the airplane is out of
> > annual. Getting it in annual is not very practical due to the
> > distance and time required but a ferry permit should not be an
> > issue. Next problem is that I can not get insurance to fly it

home

> > unless I get an hour of dual in a Fairchild 24. I Can't very well
> > get dual in an airplane that is out of annual not to mention that
> > the owner passed away and I don't have a qualified pilot for the
> > dual instruction or in reality an airplane to do it in. The plane
> is
> > in MT and the FAA database shows a few 24 owners near by. Reidar
> > Ilvedson in Forsyth and Jimmie Crump in Bozeman. I am in Atlanta
> GA
> > and there are a few owners listed in
> > > this area as well but I have not been able to get in contact
> with
> > any of them. The winter weather is setting in and I have to act
> fast
> > or the window will close until spring.
> > > Can anyone help? I am getting desperate here. I keep hitting
> road
> > blocks at every turn. I am in love with this airplane and don't
> want
> > to give up. Taking her apart and trailering is a last option and
> I
> > don't really want to risk damaging the plane in dis assembly and
> > transport.
> > >
> > > Any assistance or advice is greatly appreciated ...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > I am current, I am an A&P-IA I can do the Prebuy and or annual,

I

> > own NC19143 I am retired and have time.
> > http://www.whidbey.con/fairchild-nc19143/
> call 1-360-675-2117
>

'

Patricia Banks · Post by **Patricia Banks** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:52 pm

'Tom you could be the answer to my prayers.
My ideal scenario would be for you to come to Billings and look the plane over, help me get it in annual, test fly it, check me out in it, and then send me on my way home to GA in a safe plane with insurance coverage. Funds are limited but I do have some reserve money to help make this move. I don't know if I can afford you, but we should certainly talk. I am not an A&P but have been working on airplanes forever and have assisted on many annuals including my own. I will be there to do all of the grunt work if you just want to supervise. I was plannig to go up there next week to start the process but have not been able to get everything organized. The weather is getting bad and I have to get it out of MT soon.

I have been looking at your videos and web site for months while I was searching for this plane. Your trip home was an adventure. The 24 is a beautiful classic and your's is a standout. Great job.

Regards,

Matt
770-301-0476

--- On Thu, 10/16/08, Tom Downey wrote:

From: Tom Downey
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: In need of help !
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 1:25 AM

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Downey"

wrote:
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Patricia Banks
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone! My name is Matt and I am new to the group. I
have
> an urgent need that I am hoping that someone can assist me with. I
> have an agreement to purchase a Fairchild F24. The airplane is out
> of state and I am trying to make arrangements to go get her. I
have
> several problems. First problem is that the airplane is out of
> annual. Getting it in annual is not very practical due to the
> distance and time required but a ferry permit should not be an
> issue. Next problem is that I can not get insurance to fly it home
> unless I get an hour of dual in a Fairchild 24. I Can't very well
> get dual in an airplane that is out of annual not to mention that
> the owner passed away and I don't have a qualified pilot for the
> dual instruction or in reality an airplane to do it in. The plane
is
> in MT and the FAA database shows a few 24 owners near by. Reidar
> Ilvedson in Forsyth and Jimmie Crump in Bozeman. I am in Atlanta
GA
> and there are a few owners listed in
> > this area as well but I have not been able to get in contact
with
> any of them. The winter weather is setting in and I have to act
fast
> or the window will close until spring.
> > Can anyone help? I am getting desperate here. I keep hitting
road
> blocks at every turn. I am in love with this airplane and don't
want
> to give up. Taking her apart and trailering is a last option and
I
> don't really want to risk damaging the plane in dis assembly and
> transport.
> >
> > Any assistance or advice is greatly appreciated ...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> I am current, I am an A&P-IA I can do the Prebuy and or annual, I
> own NC19143 I am retired and have time.
> http://www.whidbey.con/fairchild-nc19143/
call 1-360-675-2117

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