'Hi Does any one know how much it would to O time a 200hp ranger?
Im about to buy a f24 and was wondering?
Cheers'
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Re: Ranger Overhaul cost??
'The cost to overhaul a Ranger is from $10,000.00 to $18,000.00 depends on
who is doing it. I have a line on a 200 Ranger that is ready to be assembled
by the shop that has done many Ranger and is the expert in
the field.
John Berendt
Fairchild club
who is doing it. I have a line on a 200 Ranger that is ready to be assembled
by the shop that has done many Ranger and is the expert in
the field.
John Berendt
Fairchild club
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Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Overhaul cost??
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> Hi Does any one know how much it would to O time a 200hp ranger?
> Im about to buy a f24 and was wondering?
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Re: Ranger Overhaul cost??
'A Continental 220 is $13,500.........good reason to convert to Continental.
Dick Russell, 81229
check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
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Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:35 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Ranger Overhaul cost??
The cost to overhaul a Ranger is from $10,000.00 to $18,000.00 depends on
who is doing it. I have a line on a 200 Ranger that is ready to be
assembled
by the shop that has done many Ranger and is the expert in
the field.
John Berendt
Fairchild club
Dick Russell, 81229
check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
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Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:35 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Ranger Overhaul cost??
The cost to overhaul a Ranger is from $10,000.00 to $18,000.00 depends on
who is doing it. I have a line on a 200 Ranger that is ready to be
assembled
by the shop that has done many Ranger and is the expert in
the field.
John Berendt
Fairchild club
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To:
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Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Overhaul cost??
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> Hi Does any one know how much it would to O time a 200hp ranger?
> Im about to buy a f24 and was wondering?
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Re: Ranger Overhaul cost??
'Dick,
go ahead and convert.If you are happy with a two place aircraft that does
not have a payload. I have found that in engine overhauls you get just what
you pay for
John berendt
go ahead and convert.If you are happy with a two place aircraft that does
not have a payload. I have found that in engine overhauls you get just what
you pay for
John berendt
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From: "Chief Russell"
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Ranger Overhaul cost??
>
> A Continental 220 is $13,500.........good reason to convert to
Continental.
>
> Dick Russell, 81229
>
> check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Berendt [mailto:mjbfchld@rconnect.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:35 AM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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>
>
> The cost to overhaul a Ranger is from $10,000.00 to $18,000.00 depends
on
> who is doing it. I have a line on a 200 Ranger that is ready to be
> assembled
> by the shop that has done many Ranger and is the expert in
> the field.
>
> John Berendt
> Fairchild club
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Re: Ranger Overhaul cost??
'Amen John. Whenever weight is added to the airframe, it's there for
ALL operations, it cannot be managed like fuel. A similar scenario is
the Citabria. New metal spar wings add 100lbs to the gross but add 70-
80lbs to the empty. This is 75lbs that plane has to lug aroung from
now on...it'll never be the same. A W670 conversion would have to add
75lbs minimum and more likely 150(I really can't see how it could be
hung on there for less than a 175lb gain, unless all electric is
chucked. Now, what about exhaust? A Stearman system all patched up
might be scrounged up for $1500. Then there is the issue of
propeller. All Continental props are $5K min except wood. Now, the
Air Corp hub costs $600-1000. The nuts alone are $20ea X 8 (an 8808
Ranger hub on Ebay went for $300 a couple days ago)......that $12,000
Ranger is looking good about now, not to mention getting approval.
Then there's those little 3/8 fuel lines- you sure you want to run
that size 7 Stromberg on one 3/8" fuel line( one tank at a time
remember)?
--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "John Berendt"
wrote:
ALL operations, it cannot be managed like fuel. A similar scenario is
the Citabria. New metal spar wings add 100lbs to the gross but add 70-
80lbs to the empty. This is 75lbs that plane has to lug aroung from
now on...it'll never be the same. A W670 conversion would have to add
75lbs minimum and more likely 150(I really can't see how it could be
hung on there for less than a 175lb gain, unless all electric is
chucked. Now, what about exhaust? A Stearman system all patched up
might be scrounged up for $1500. Then there is the issue of
propeller. All Continental props are $5K min except wood. Now, the
Air Corp hub costs $600-1000. The nuts alone are $20ea X 8 (an 8808
Ranger hub on Ebay went for $300 a couple days ago)......that $12,000
Ranger is looking good about now, not to mention getting approval.
Then there's those little 3/8 fuel lines- you sure you want to run
that size 7 Stromberg on one 3/8" fuel line( one tank at a time
remember)?
--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "John Berendt"
wrote:
that does> Dick,
>
> go ahead and convert.If you are happy with a two place aircraft
just what> not have a payload. I have found that in engine overhauls you get
depends> you pay for
>
> John berendt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chief Russell"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Ranger Overhaul cost??
>
>
> >
> > A Continental 220 is $13,500.........good reason to convert to
> Continental.
> >
> > Dick Russell, 81229
> >
> > check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Berendt [mailto:mjbfchld@r...]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:35 AM
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> >
> >
> > The cost to overhaul a Ranger is from $10,000.00 to $18,000.00
be> on
> > who is doing it. I have a line on a 200 Ranger that is ready to
ranger?> > assembled
> > by the shop that has done many Ranger and is the expert in
> > the field.
> >
> > John Berendt
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Continental STC for F24
'Hey guys:
The Continental has been on this airplane since 1973; flies great and fuel
management is similar to the Ranger. However; an overhaul is $13,500 at
present and a wood prop aprox $2500. Yes; there us some additional weight
but entire manageable. With minimum electrics and radio installed, it is
easily manageable, and the seaplane version was approved for 200# more GTOW
than the land plane version (?) - who knows why?
The Continental is common in that almost any A & P worth their salt
can work on them anywhere in the US. PARTS are plentiful and one does not
have to hunt for the good deals or try to find parts. Warners are an
entirely different story as Paul Harvey says: a rebuild on them is almost
$20k and TBO is 400 hours unless you can get creative and get some DER, DAR,
FSDO, FIDO, MIDO or FAA Cert office to buy off on some other number and that
IS difficult to say the least. How often would you chose to carry 4 people
in a F24 anyway? The wrench in OK who runs an engine shop and owns an F24
says he can overnight a cylinder anywhere in the US anytime whereas I am not
certain that can be said for a Warner or Ranger?
I have considered converting my Meyers to a 220 as one in Phoenix if the
Kinner ever gives up the ghost. I have a zero time R56 in my hangar as we
speak but would consider selling it to convert to a more reliable
Continental 220.
Just trying to offer advice that is more sensible than still trying
to find OLD parts such as for the Warner, minimize expenses, and "why" would
you worry if you can afford an airplane anyway.
Trust me; our Continental powered F24 is very reliable and a wee bit
different. I know of another one owner in OK with a Continental F24 that is
recently rebuilt and another being restored in OK with a Continental.
fly safe
Dick Russell, N81229
Wichita (Air Capitol of the World)
check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
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From: ranger440c5 [mailto:twing4@juno.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 7:51 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Ranger Overhaul cost??
Amen John. Whenever weight is added to the airframe, it's there for
ALL operations, it cannot be managed like fuel. A similar scenario is
the Citabria. New metal spar wings add 100lbs to the gross but add 70-
80lbs to the empty. This is 75lbs that plane has to lug aroung from
now on...it'll never be the same. A W670 conversion would have to add
75lbs minimum and more likely 150(I really can't see how it could be
hung on there for less than a 175lb gain, unless all electric is
chucked. Now, what about exhaust? A Stearman system all patched up
might be scrounged up for $1500. Then there is the issue of
propeller. All Continental props are $5K min except wood. Now, the
Air Corp hub costs $600-1000. The nuts alone are $20ea X 8 (an 8808
Ranger hub on Ebay went for $300 a couple days ago)......that $12,000
Ranger is looking good about now, not to mention getting approval.
Then there's those little 3/8 fuel lines- you sure you want to run
that size 7 Stromberg on one 3/8" fuel line( one tank at a time
remember)?
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The Continental has been on this airplane since 1973; flies great and fuel
management is similar to the Ranger. However; an overhaul is $13,500 at
present and a wood prop aprox $2500. Yes; there us some additional weight
but entire manageable. With minimum electrics and radio installed, it is
easily manageable, and the seaplane version was approved for 200# more GTOW
than the land plane version (?) - who knows why?
The Continental is common in that almost any A & P worth their salt
can work on them anywhere in the US. PARTS are plentiful and one does not
have to hunt for the good deals or try to find parts. Warners are an
entirely different story as Paul Harvey says: a rebuild on them is almost
$20k and TBO is 400 hours unless you can get creative and get some DER, DAR,
FSDO, FIDO, MIDO or FAA Cert office to buy off on some other number and that
IS difficult to say the least. How often would you chose to carry 4 people
in a F24 anyway? The wrench in OK who runs an engine shop and owns an F24
says he can overnight a cylinder anywhere in the US anytime whereas I am not
certain that can be said for a Warner or Ranger?
I have considered converting my Meyers to a 220 as one in Phoenix if the
Kinner ever gives up the ghost. I have a zero time R56 in my hangar as we
speak but would consider selling it to convert to a more reliable
Continental 220.
Just trying to offer advice that is more sensible than still trying
to find OLD parts such as for the Warner, minimize expenses, and "why" would
you worry if you can afford an airplane anyway.
Trust me; our Continental powered F24 is very reliable and a wee bit
different. I know of another one owner in OK with a Continental F24 that is
recently rebuilt and another being restored in OK with a Continental.
fly safe
Dick Russell, N81229
Wichita (Air Capitol of the World)
check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
-----Original Message-----
From: ranger440c5 [mailto:twing4@juno.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 7:51 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Ranger Overhaul cost??
Amen John. Whenever weight is added to the airframe, it's there for
ALL operations, it cannot be managed like fuel. A similar scenario is
the Citabria. New metal spar wings add 100lbs to the gross but add 70-
80lbs to the empty. This is 75lbs that plane has to lug aroung from
now on...it'll never be the same. A W670 conversion would have to add
75lbs minimum and more likely 150(I really can't see how it could be
hung on there for less than a 175lb gain, unless all electric is
chucked. Now, what about exhaust? A Stearman system all patched up
might be scrounged up for $1500. Then there is the issue of
propeller. All Continental props are $5K min except wood. Now, the
Air Corp hub costs $600-1000. The nuts alone are $20ea X 8 (an 8808
Ranger hub on Ebay went for $300 a couple days ago)......that $12,000
Ranger is looking good about now, not to mention getting approval.
Then there's those little 3/8 fuel lines- you sure you want to run
that size 7 Stromberg on one 3/8" fuel line( one tank at a time
remember)?
--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "John Berendt"
wrote:
that does> Dick,
>
> go ahead and convert.If you are happy with a two place aircraft
just what> not have a payload. I have found that in engine overhauls you get
depends> you pay for
>
> John berendt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chief Russell"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Ranger Overhaul cost??
>
>
> >
> > A Continental 220 is $13,500.........good reason to convert to
> Continental.
> >
> > Dick Russell, 81229
> >
> > check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Berendt [mailto:mjbfchld@r...]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:35 AM
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Ranger Overhaul cost??
> >
> >
> > The cost to overhaul a Ranger is from $10,000.00 to $18,000.00
be> on
> > who is doing it. I have a line on a 200 Ranger that is ready to
ranger?> > assembled
> > by the shop that has done many Ranger and is the expert in
> > the field.
> >
> > John Berendt
> > Fairchild club
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "bty697859"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:15 PM
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Overhaul cost??
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Does any one know how much it would to O time a 200hp
--------> > > Im about to buy a f24 and was wondering?
> > > Cheers
> > >
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Re: Continental STC for F24
'On Sunday, February 20, 2005, at 09:33 AM, John Berendt wrote:
conversions. One is a 337 for N81229: Continental W670 and Hamilton
Standard prop. There is no weight & balance information, but it shows
22 pounds of ballast required in the tail.
The other is a one-time STC for N77681: Continental W670 and Beech
prop. No permanent ballast is required, but the useful load is
placarded at 531 pounds. With full tanks that leaves 183 pounds
payload and Im 190, so its not even a one-place aircraft for me!
There are two documents on the Fairchild CD about Continental> go ahead and convert.If you are happy with a two place aircraft that
> does
> not have a payload.
conversions. One is a 337 for N81229: Continental W670 and Hamilton
Standard prop. There is no weight & balance information, but it shows
22 pounds of ballast required in the tail.
The other is a one-time STC for N77681: Continental W670 and Beech
prop. No permanent ballast is required, but the useful load is
placarded at 531 pounds. With full tanks that leaves 183 pounds
payload and Im 190, so its not even a one-place aircraft for me!
'On Sunday, February 20, 2005, at 08:22 PM, Chief Russell wrote:
> the seaplane version was approved for 200# more GTOW than the land
> plane version (?) - who knows why?
Most floatplanes have a higher MTOW that their landplane equivalent.
The floats provide aerodynamic lift so their complete additional weight
isnt supported by the wing.
> TBO is 400 hours unless you can get creative and get some DER, DAR,
> FSDO, FIDO, MIDO or FAA Cert office to buy off on some other number
> and that
> IS difficult to say the least.
Why would the TBO matter for part 91 operation? Are you working your
old Fairchild?
And Im glad the Continental is doing well for you, Dick. Im certain
its an easier engine to support and a little more power never hurts.
:Dan Michael
:NC81323
Re: Ranger Overhaul cost??
'--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bty697859"
wrote:
Having spoken to Joe who overhauls them i feel very possertive about
the purchase of my new friend. i am in the uk and used to flying
tiger moths whose engines will give you boys a real shock when it
comes to overhaul. 26k US at least, and thats if the core is good,
for a Gipsey Major!! so you can see why i was worried.
Keep it comming
James'
wrote:
Hi guys thanks for the info.>
> Hi Does any one know how much it would to O time a 200hp ranger?
> Im about to buy a f24 and was wondering?
> Cheers
Having spoken to Joe who overhauls them i feel very possertive about
the purchase of my new friend. i am in the uk and used to flying
tiger moths whose engines will give you boys a real shock when it
comes to overhaul. 26k US at least, and thats if the core is good,
for a Gipsey Major!! so you can see why i was worried.
Keep it comming
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Re: Continental STC for F24
'THX Dan - where can we obtain the Fairchild CD?
Dick Russell, 81229
check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
-----Original Message-----
From: danMichael [mailto:f24r@mindspring.com]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 1:56 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Continental STC for F24
Dick Russell, 81229
check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
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From: danMichael [mailto:f24r@mindspring.com]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 1:56 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Continental STC for F24
'On Sunday, February 20, 2005, at 09:33 AM, John Berendt wrote:
> go ahead and convert.If you are happy with a two place aircraft that
> does
> not have a payload.
There are two documents on the Fairchild CD about Continental
conversions. One is a 337 for N81229: Continental W670 and Hamilton
Standard prop. There is no weight & balance information, but it shows
22 pounds of ballast required in the tail.
The other is a one-time STC for N77681: Continental W670 and Beech
prop. No permanent ballast is required, but the useful load is
placarded at 531 pounds. With full tanks that leaves 183 pounds
payload and Im 190, so its not even a one-place aircraft for me!
On Sunday, February 20, 2005, at 08:22 PM, Chief Russell wrote:
> the seaplane version was approved for 200# more GTOW than the land
> plane version (?) - who knows why?
Most floatplanes have a higher MTOW that their landplane equivalent.
The floats provide aerodynamic lift so their complete additional weight
isnt supported by the wing.
> TBO is 400 hours unless you can get creative and get some DER, DAR,
> FSDO, FIDO, MIDO or FAA Cert office to buy off on some other number
> and that
> IS difficult to say the least.
Why would the TBO matter for part 91 operation? Are you working your
old Fairchild?
And Im glad the Continental is doing well for you, Dick. Im certain
its an easier engine to support and a little more power never hurts.
:Dan Michael
:NC81323
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Re: Continental STC for F24
'This will likely go in mine...not sure at the moment how the weight compares with
the Warner ( I think John Berendt mentioned Warner weights before). I do know
that the Curtis Reed prop is no flyweight and a wood prop could go on the M14D
engine so I'd guess the weight issue might not be too bad a deal.
http://www.gesoco.com/engines/m14d.html
All I'm looking for is two place with full tanks and about 130 lbs of camping/traveling
gear. If I can't get that with the 24/M14D, I'll dump the 24 and get on with the 51
project with a Housai or M14P.
David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
the Warner ( I think John Berendt mentioned Warner weights before). I do know
that the Curtis Reed prop is no flyweight and a wood prop could go on the M14D
engine so I'd guess the weight issue might not be too bad a deal.
http://www.gesoco.com/engines/m14d.html
All I'm looking for is two place with full tanks and about 130 lbs of camping/traveling
gear. If I can't get that with the 24/M14D, I'll dump the 24 and get on with the 51
project with a Housai or M14P.
David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
'----- Original Message -----
From: "danMichael"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:56 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Continental STC for F24
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> On Sunday, February 20, 2005, at 09:33 AM, John Berendt wrote:
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> > go ahead and convert.If you are happy with a two place aircraft that
> > does
> > not have a payload.
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> There are two documents on the Fairchild CD about Continental
> conversions. One is a 337 for N81229: Continental W670 and Hamilton
> Standard prop. There is no weight & balance information, but it shows
> 22 pounds of ballast required in the tail.
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> The other is a one-time STC for N77681: Continental W670 and Beech
> prop. No permanent ballast is required, but the useful load is
> placarded at 531 pounds. With full tanks that leaves 183 pounds
> payload and Im 190, so its not even a one-place aircraft for me!
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> On Sunday, February 20, 2005, at 08:22 PM, Chief Russell wrote:
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> > the seaplane version was approved for 200# more GTOW than the land
> > plane version (?) - who knows why?
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> Most floatplanes have a higher MTOW that their landplane equivalent.
> The floats provide aerodynamic lift so their complete additional weight
> isnt supported by the wing.
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> > TBO is 400 hours unless you can get creative and get some DER, DAR,
> > FSDO, FIDO, MIDO or FAA Cert office to buy off on some other number
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> > IS difficult to say the least.
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> Why would the TBO matter for part 91 operation? Are you working your
> old Fairchild?
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> And Im glad the Continental is doing well for you, Dick. Im certain
> its an easier engine to support and a little more power never hurts.
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> :Dan Michael
> :NC81323
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