Re: PT-19 Brake Bladders.

tomatotruck993 · Post by **tomatotruck993** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:31 am

'Fritz,
There are several examples of the Cessna 310 Cleveland brake system being installed on several 24's as well as PT-23's. The 23's use the complete 310 wheel & brake but seems those wishing to not have to modify their wheel pants on the 24's chose to use only the 310 wheel and then acquired 210 calipers, discs, & pucks. I would suggest obtaining the assistance of an IA and/or a DER and they should get you rolling forward quickly. I have found Parker-Hannifin (Cleveland Brakes) engineering folks very helpful with engineering assistance for field approvals.'

tomatotruck993 · Post by **tomatotruck993** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:42 am

'Fritz,
The Cessna 210 used 3 different wheels but they are all too small.
The Cessna 210 used 6 different brakes during it's production run:30-4530-5230-52V30-127C30-16330-182
The Cessna 310 used 2 different wheels:40-40A40-40D
The Cessna 310 used the 30-28B brake'

Fritz · Post by **Fritz** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:56 am

'Wow….thanks for the info,….now I just need to decide what combination to put on my PT-26…. From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 8:40 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] PT-19 Brake Bladders.

Fritz, The Cessna 210 used 3 different wheels but they are all too small. The Cessna 210 used 6 different brakes during it's production run:30-4530-5230-52V30-127C30-16330-182 The Cessna 310 used 2 different wheels:40-40A40-40D The Cessna 310 used the 30-28B brake

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Michael Thomas · Post by **Michael Thomas** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:03 am

' Does anyone have an STC?

On Friday, November 1, 2019, 10:38:01 AM CDT, wsknettl@centurytel.net [fairchildclub] wrote:

Fritz,
There are several examples of the Cessna 310 Cleveland brake system being installed on several 24's as well as PT-23's. The 23's use the complete 310 wheel & brake but seems those wishing to not have to modify their wheel pants on the 24's chose to use only the 310 wheel and then acquired 210 calipers, discs, & pucks. I would suggest obtaining the assistance of an IA and/or a DER and they should get you rolling forward quickly. I have found Parker-Hannifin (Cleveland Brakes) engineering folks very helpful with engineering assistance for field approvals. '

Richard Smith · Post by **Richard Smith** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:08 am

'Did I miss it, but did someone report what to use for master cylinders with the disk brake conversion?Thanks,Richard Smith From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 10:57 AM
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Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] PT-19 Brake Bladders. Wow….thanks for the info,….now I just need to decide what combination to put on my PT-26…. From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 8:40 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] PT-19 Brake Bladders.

Fritz, The Cessna 210 used 3 different wheels but they are all too small. The Cessna 210 used 6 different brakes during it's production run:30-4530-5230-52V30-127C30-16330-182 The Cessna 310 used 2 different wheels:40-40A40-40D The Cessna 310 used the 30-28B brake

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Curt Kinchen · Post by **Curt Kinchen** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:18 am

'I seem to recall a really good write up on the PT brake conversion in an issue of the Fairchild Flyer many years ago.
As has been described here, use 310 wheels and one of the two puck 210 or similar brake assemblies. Three puck 310 brakes are way more than needed.I have a 2 puck system on my Cessna 195, same size wheels and tires, heavier airplane, and it is plenty.
My recollection is the PT axles are retained, but need to be moved outboard a small amount.

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 9:11 AM Michael Thomas michael_thomas8@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

Does anyone have an STC?

On Friday, November 1, 2019, 10:38:01 AM CDT, wsknettl@centurytel.net [fairchildclub] wrote:

Fritz,
There are several examples of the Cessna 310 Cleveland brake system being installed on several 24's as well as PT-23's. The 23's use the complete 310 wheel & brake but seems those wishing to not have to modify their wheel pants on the 24's chose to use only the 310 wheel and then acquired 210 calipers, discs, & pucks. I would suggest obtaining the assistance of an IA and/or a DER and they should get you rolling forward quickly. I have found Parker-Hannifin (Cleveland Brakes) engineering folks very helpful with engineering assistance for field approvals.

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tomatotruck993 · Post by **tomatotruck993** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:26 pm

'Fritz,
Go to the Cleveland Brake web site and download the PDF copies of their catalog and service manuals.https://www.parker.com/literature/Aircraft%20Wheel%20&%20Brake%20Division/AWB%20Static%20Files%20for%20Literature/AWBPC0001.pdf

https://www.parker.com/literature/Aircraft%20Wheel%20&%20Brake%20Division/AWB%20Static%20Files%20for%20Literature/AWB%20Product%20Catalog%20Static%20Files/AWBCMM0001-12.pdf

https://www.parker.com/literature/WBtech.PDF
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Fritz · Post by **Fritz** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:40 pm

'Thanks a bunch, will do tomorrow, too sleepy now…Fritz From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 9:26 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] PT-19 Brake Bladders.

Fritz, Go to the Cleveland Brake web site and download the PDF copies of their catalog and service manuals.https://www.parker.com/literature/Aircraft%20Wheel%20&%20Brake%20Division/AWB%20Static%20Files%20for%20Literature/AWBPC0001.pdf https://www.parker.com/literature/Aircraft%20Wheel%20&%20Brake%20Division/AWB%20Static%20Files%20for%20Literature/AWB%20Product%20Catalog%20Static%20Files/AWBCMM0001-12.pdf https://w ww.parker.com/literature/WBtech.PDF

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