Re: Magneto couplings

[gdrebo@yahoo.com]

'
Does anyone know of a supplier/manufacturer for the rubber hydraulic hose located near the wheel strut scissor, which connects the metal brake lines?  Thanks in advance!
Michael Drebo832 691-0911Magnolia, TX

'

[Ranchaero Wing Shop]

' Michael,

I got mine from Aero Performance.  They make custom hoses to order. Quick service. They have a shop in Ft. Worth as well as a few other places.

http://aeroperformance.com

817-624-9882

David

On 03/21/2018 08:10 AM, gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

 
Does anyone know of a supplier/manufacturer for the rubber hydraulic hose located near the wheel strut scissor, which connects the metal brake lines?  Thanks in advance!
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX



'

[Pete Crawford]

' Michael,
Let me know how this works out.  I contacted two shops, A.E.R.O. hose shop in Granite City, IL and Specialty Hose in Akron, OH.  I sent a hose to A.E.R.O. for duplication, and they returned it without explanation.  I sent Specialty Hose some pics after talking with the rep there, and never heard back from them.  I think the flare inside the fitting has them stumped as it's not a real B-nut connection. 

I (obviously) still need help with this.  Have other PT owners changed their hose configuration to a more modern design?

Thanks,
Pete Crawford


On 3/21/2018 12:10, Ranchaero Wing Shop david@ranchaerowingshop.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

 
Michael,

I got mine from Aero Performance.  They make custom hoses to order. Quick service. They have a shop in Ft. Worth as well as a few other places.

http://aeroperformance.com

817-624-9882

David


On 03/21/2018 08:10 AM, gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Does anyone know of a supplier/manufacturer for the rubber hydraulic hose located near the wheel strut scissor, which connects the metal brake lines?  Thanks in advance!
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX

'

[George Michael Drebo]

' All, thanks for the info.  I've tried all the suggested vendors and "No Joy"!  If anyone has any leads, please respond.
Thanks,
Michael Drebo832 691-0911Magnolia, TX

On ?Wednesday?, ?March? ?21?, ?2018? ?11?:?49?:?02? ?AM? ?CDT, Pete Crawford pcrawford262@gmail.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

 
Michael,
Let me know how this works out.  I contacted two shops, A.E.R.O. hose shop in Granite City, IL and Specialty Hose in Akron, OH.  I sent a hose to A.E.R.O. for duplication, and they returned it without explanation.  I sent Specialty Hose some pics after talking with the rep there, and never heard back from them.  I think the flare inside the fitting has them stumped as it's not a real B-nut connection. 

I (obviously) still need help with this.  Have other PT owners changed their hose configuration to a more modern design?

Thanks,
Pete Crawford


On 3/21/2018 12:10, Ranchaero Wing Shop david@ranchaerowingshop.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Michael,

I got mine from Aero Performance.  They make custom hoses to order. Quick service. They have a shop in Ft. Worth as well as a few other places.

http://aeroperformance.com

817-624-9882

David


On 03/21/2018 08:10 AM, gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Does anyone know of a supplier/manufacturer for the rubber hydraulic hose located near the wheel strut scissor, which connects the metal brake lines?  Thanks in advance!
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX




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[JP]

'Aircraft Spruce has the hose and the fittings as well as the inexpensive small tool required to assemble.

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 21, 2018, at 16:26, George Michael Drebo gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

 
All, thanks for the info.  I've tried all the suggested vendors and "No Joy"!  If anyone has any leads, please respond.
Thanks,
Michael Drebo832 691-0911Magnolia, TX

On ?Wednesday?, ?March? ?21?, ?2018? ?11?:?49?:?02? ?AM? ?CDT, Pete Crawford pcrawford262@gmail.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

 
Michael,
Let me know how this works out.  I contacted two shops, A.E.R.O. hose shop in Granite City, IL and Specialty Hose in Akron, OH.  I sent a hose to A.E.R.O. for duplication, and they returned it without explanation.  I sent Specialty Hose some pics after talking with the rep there, and never heard back from them.  I think the flare inside the fitting has them stumped as it's not a real B-nut connection. 

I (obviously) still need help with this.  Have other PT owners changed their hose configuration to a more modern design?

Thanks,
Pete Crawford


On 3/21/2018 12:10, Ranchaero Wing Shop david@ranchaerowingshop.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Michael,

I got mine from Aero Performance.  They make custom hoses to order. Quick service. They have a shop in Ft. Worth as well as a few other places.

http://aeroperformance.com

817-624-9882

David


On 03/21/2018 08:10 AM, gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Does anyone know of a supplier/manufacturer for the rubber hydraulic hose located near the wheel strut scissor, which connects the metal brake lines?  Thanks in advance!
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX





'

[Ranchaero Wing Shop]

' You're probably referring to the "inverted flare" (I think it's called) fittings used on the PT brake lines. I tried to find some new ones and failed. I ended up modernizing the brake system with C-310 Cleveland wheels and brakes which is why I could get the hoses from Aero Performance using AN fittings except for the two master cylinders fittings.

I'm still working on this conversion. The big problem is finding rubber parts for 5606 fluid that fit the goodyear master cylinders. Automotive brake kits rubber parts not compatible with 5606 fluid. Dot 5 silicon fluid works with auto brake kits and clevelend brakes, but because I do a lot of painting, I'm not willing to risk silicon contamination in my shop. Dot 3 and 4 eat paint and are great paint strippers. The 5606 conversion is ultimately the better solution IMO.

It would be great to find a modern aircraft master cylinder that would work in the PT without major modification. Anyone know of one?

David

On 03/21/2018 01:26 PM, George Michael Drebo gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

  All, thanks for the info.  I've tried all the suggested vendors and "No Joy"!  If anyone has any leads, please respond.
Thanks,
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX

On ?Wednesday?, ?March? ?21?, ?2018? ?11?:?49?:?02? ?AM? ?CDT, Pete Crawford pcrawford262@gmail.com [fairchildclub] fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 
Michael,
Let me know how this works out.  I contacted two shops, A.E.R.O. hose shop in Granite City, IL and Specialty Hose in Akron, OH.  I sent a hose to A.E.R.O. for duplication, and they returned it without explanation.  I sent Specialty Hose some pics after talking with the rep there, and never heard back from them.  I think the flare inside the fitting has them stumped as it's not a real B-nut connection. 

I (obviously) still need help with this.  Have other PT owners changed their hose configuration to a more modern design?

Thanks,
Pete Crawford


On 3/21/2018 12:10, Ranchaero Wing Shop david@ranchaerowingshop.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Michael,

I got mine from Aero Performance.  They make custom hoses to order. Quick service. They have a shop in Ft. Worth as well as a few other places.

http://aeroperformance.com

817-624-9882

David


On 03/21/2018 08:10 AM, gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Does anyone know of a supplier/manufacturer for the rubber hydraulic hose located near the wheel strut scissor, which connects the metal brake lines?  Thanks in advance!
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX

'

[Francis Cox]

'I found inverted flares in a classic car parts shop - that was in UK - maybe worth a try.
Frank 

Sent from my iPhone

On 22 Mar 2018, at 12:20, Ranchaero Wing Shop david@ranchaerowingshop.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

 
You're probably referring to the "inverted flare" (I think it's called) fittings used on the PT brake lines. I tried to find some new ones and failed. I ended up modernizing the brake system with C-310 Cleveland wheels and brakes which is why I could get the hoses from Aero Performance using AN fittings except for the two master cylinders fittings.

I'm still working on this conversion. The big problem is finding rubber parts for 5606 fluid that fit the goodyear master cylinders. Automotive brake kits rubber parts not compatible with 5606 fluid. Dot 5 silicon fluid works with auto brake kits and clevelend brakes, but because I do a lot of painting, I'm not willing to risk silicon contamination in my shop. Dot 3 and 4 eat paint and are great paint strippers. The 5606 conversion is ultimately the better solution IMO.

It would be great to find a modern aircraft master cylinder that would work in the PT without major modification. Anyone know of one?

David

On 03/21/2018 01:26 PM, George Michael Drebo gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
  All, thanks for the info.  I've tried all the suggested vendors and "No Joy"!  If anyone has any leads, please respond.
Thanks,
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX

On ?Wednesday?, ?March? ?21?, ?2018? ?11?:?49?:?02? ?AM? ?CDT, Pete Crawford pcrawford262@gmail.com [fairchildclub] fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 
Michael,
Let me know how this works out.  I contacted two shops, A.E.R.O. hose shop in Granite City, IL and Specialty Hose in Akron, OH.  I sent a hose to A.E.R.O. for duplication, and they returned it without explanation.  I sent Specialty Hose some pics after talking with the rep there, and never heard back from them.  I think the flare inside the fitting has them stumped as it's not a real B-nut connection. 

I (obviously) still need help with this.  Have other PT owners changed their hose configuration to a more modern design?

Thanks,
Pete Crawford


On 3/21/2018 12:10, Ranchaero Wing Shop david@ranchaerowingshop.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Michael,

I got mine from Aero Performance.  They make custom hoses to order. Quick service. They have a shop in Ft. Worth as well as a few other places.

http://aeroperformance.com

817-624-9882

David


On 03/21/2018 08:10 AM, gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Does anyone know of a supplier/manufacturer for the rubber hydraulic hose located near the wheel strut scissor, which connects the metal brake lines?  Thanks in advance!
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX







'

[Pete Crawford]

' Do you have the name of a specific shop?
Thanks,
Pete Crawford


On 3/22/2018 00:52, Francis Cox frankjcox44@gmail.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

 
I found inverted flares in a classic car parts shop - that was in UK - maybe worth a try.
Frank 

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On 22 Mar 2018, at 12:20, Ranchaero Wing Shop david@ranchaerowingshop.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

 
You're probably referring to the "inverted flare" (I think it's called) fittings used on the PT brake lines. I tried to find some new ones and failed. I ended up modernizing the brake system with C-310 Cleveland wheels and brakes which is why I could get the hoses from Aero Performance using AN fittings except for the two master cylinders fittings.

I'm still working on this conversion. The big problem is finding rubber parts for 5606 fluid that fit the goodyear master cylinders. Automotive brake kits rubber parts not compatible with 5606 fluid. Dot 5 silicon fluid works with auto brake kits and clevelend brakes, but because I do a lot of painting, I'm not willing to risk silicon contamination in my shop. Dot 3 and 4 eat paint and are great paint strippers. The 5606 conversion is ultimately the better solution IMO.

It would be great to find a modern aircraft master cylinder that would work in the PT without major modification. Anyone know of one?

David

On 03/21/2018 01:26 PM, George Michael Drebo gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
  All, thanks for the info.  I've tried all the suggested vendors and "No Joy"!  If anyone has any leads, please respond.
Thanks,
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX

On ?Wednesday?, ?March? ?21?, ?2018? ?11?:?49?:?02? ?AM? ?CDT, Pete Crawford pcrawford262@gmail.com [fairchildclub] fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 
Michael,
Let me know how this works out.  I contacted two shops, A.E.R.O. hose shop in Granite City, IL and Specialty Hose in Akron, OH.  I sent a hose to A.E.R.O. for duplication, and they returned it without explanation.  I sent Specialty Hose some pics after talking with the rep there, and never heard back from them.  I think the flare inside the fitting has them stumped as it's not a real B-nut connection. 

I (obviously) still need help with this.  Have other PT owners changed their hose configuration to a more modern design?

Thanks,
Pete Crawford


On 3/21/2018 12:10, Ranchaero Wing Shop david@ranchaerowingshop.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Michael,

I got mine from Aero Performance.  They make custom hoses to order. Quick service. They have a shop in Ft. Worth as well as a few other places.

http://aeroperformance.com

817-624-9882

David


On 03/21/2018 08:10 AM, gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Does anyone know of a supplier/manufacturer for the rubber hydraulic hose located near the wheel strut scissor, which connects the metal brake lines?  Thanks in advance!
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX

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[Francis Cox]

'Sorry - we are in New Zealand at present on vacation but it was many years ago that I got them just for the brake master  cylinders on my UC61K - everything else is AN - there surely must be such shops in the US.
Frank 

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On 22 Mar 2018, at 23:37, Pete Crawford pcrawford262@gmail.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

 
Do you have the name of a specific shop?
Thanks,
Pete Crawford


On 3/22/2018 00:52, Francis Cox frankjcox44@gmail.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
I found inverted flares in a classic car parts shop - that was in UK - maybe worth a try.
Frank 

Sent from my iPhone
On 22 Mar 2018, at 12:20, Ranchaero Wing Shop david@ranchaerowingshop.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

 
You're probably referring to the "inverted flare" (I think it's called) fittings used on the PT brake lines. I tried to find some new ones and failed. I ended up modernizing the brake system with C-310 Cleveland wheels and brakes which is why I could get the hoses from Aero Performance using AN fittings except for the two master cylinders fittings.

I'm still working on this conversion. The big problem is finding rubber parts for 5606 fluid that fit the goodyear master cylinders. Automotive brake kits rubber parts not compatible with 5606 fluid. Dot 5 silicon fluid works with auto brake kits and clevelend brakes, but because I do a lot of painting, I'm not willing to risk silicon contamination in my shop. Dot 3 and 4 eat paint and are great paint strippers. The 5606 conversion is ultimately the better solution IMO.

It would be great to find a modern aircraft master cylinder that would work in the PT without major modification. Anyone know of one?

David

On 03/21/2018 01:26 PM, George Michael Drebo gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
  All, thanks for the info.  I've tried all the suggested vendors and "No Joy"!  If anyone has any leads, please respond.
Thanks,
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX

On ?Wednesday?, ?March? ?21?, ?2018? ?11?:?49?:?02? ?AM? ?CDT, Pete Crawford pcrawford262@gmail.com [fairchildclub] fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 
Michael,
Let me know how this works out.  I contacted two shops, A.E.R.O. hose shop in Granite City, IL and Specialty Hose in Akron, OH.  I sent a hose to A.E.R.O. for duplication, and they returned it without explanation.  I sent Specialty Hose some pics after talking with the rep there, and never heard back from them.  I think the flare inside the fitting has them stumped as it's not a real B-nut connection. 

I (obviously) still need help with this.  Have other PT owners changed their hose configuration to a more modern design?

Thanks,
Pete Crawford


On 3/21/2018 12:10, Ranchaero Wing Shop david@ranchaerowingshop.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Michael,

I got mine from Aero Performance.  They make custom hoses to order. Quick service. They have a shop in Ft. Worth as well as a few other places.

http://aeroperformance.com

817-624-9882

David


On 03/21/2018 08:10 AM, gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Does anyone know of a supplier/manufacturer for the rubber hydraulic hose located near the wheel strut scissor, which connects the metal brake lines?  Thanks in advance!
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX








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[Emil Dular]

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http://ph.parker.com/us/27601/en/brass-inverted-flare-fittings
Parker still makes'em,  you may have to hunt the auto parts places to find them. Piper used them a lot through the Sixties as well.
Emil in Kentucky

On 23-Mar-18 00:47, Francis Cox frankjcox44@gmail.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

 
Sorry - we are in New Zealand at present on vacation but it was many years ago that I got them just for the brake master  cylinders on my UC61K - everything else is AN - there surely must be such shops in the US..
Frank 

Sent from my iPhone
On 22 Mar 2018, at 23:37, Pete Crawford pcrawford262@gmail.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

 
Do you have the name of a specific shop?
Thanks,
Pete Crawford


On 3/22/2018 00:52, Francis Cox frankjcox44@gmail.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
I found inverted flares in a classic car parts shop - that was in UK - maybe worth a try.
Frank 

Sent from my iPhone
On 22 Mar 2018, at 12:20, Ranchaero Wing Shop david@ranchaerowingshop.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

 
You're probably referring to the "inverted flare" (I think it's called) fittings used on the PT brake lines. I tried to find some new ones and failed. I ended up modernizing the brake system with C-310 Cleveland wheels and brakes which is why I could get the hoses from Aero Performance using AN fittings except for the two master cylinders fittings.

I'm still working on this conversion. The big problem is finding rubber parts for 5606 fluid that fit the goodyear master cylinders. Automotive brake kits rubber parts not compatible with 5606 fluid. Dot 5 silicon fluid works with auto brake kits and clevelend brakes, but because I do a lot of painting, I'm not willing to risk silicon contamination in my shop. Dot 3 and 4 eat paint and are great paint strippers. The 5606 conversion is ultimately the better solution IMO.

It would be great to find a modern aircraft master cylinder that would work in the PT without major modification. Anyone know of one?

David

On 03/21/2018 01:26 PM, George Michael Drebo gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
  All, thanks for the info.  I've tried all the suggested vendors and "No Joy"!  If anyone has any leads, please respond.
Thanks,
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX

On ?Wednesday?, ?March? ?21?, ?2018? ?11?:?49?:?02? ?AM? ?CDT, Pete Crawford pcrawford262@gmail.com [fairchildclub] fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 
Michael,
Let me know how this works out.  I contacted two shops, A.E.R.O. hose shop in Granite City, IL and Specialty Hose in Akron, OH.  I sent a hose to A.E.R.O. for duplication, and they returned it without explanation.  I sent Specialty Hose some pics after talking with the rep there, and never heard back from them.  I think the flare inside the fitting has them stumped as it's not a real B-nut connection. 

I (obviously) still need help with this.  Have other PT owners changed their hose configuration to a more modern design?

Thanks,
Pete Crawford


On 3/21/2018 12:10, Ranchaero Wing Shop david@ranchaerowingshop.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Michael,

I got mine from Aero Performance.  They make custom hoses to order. Quick service. They have a shop in Ft. Worth as well as a few other places.

http://aeroperformance.com

817-624-9882

David


On 03/21/2018 08:10 AM, gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:
 
Does anyone know of a supplier/manufacturer for the rubber hydraulic hose located near the wheel strut scissor, which connects the metal brake lines?  Thanks in advance!
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911 Magnolia, TX

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