Re: Hayes Brakes expander tube 'Nozzle' packing

[coxargus]

'Folks,
I am having great difficulty sourcing 'ready made' suitable  sized packing between the expander tube 'nozzle and  the 'connection' on the Hayes brakes.
I am looking to use DOT5 fluid and Viton or Nitrile packing/O-rings - please say so if this is not such a good idea.
What combination of fluid and packing are y'all using out there and where could I get the packing or will it have to be a DIY job?
Many thanks
Frank Cox
Argus III   G-BCBL'

[robert Etter]

'I think I know what you are looking for.   The inside diameter fits the expander tube stem, and the wall thickness is about 3/32" or so.  Length is around is maybe 1/4" long.  I used something that resembled Vacuum Line from a car or truck, no re-enforcing fibers.   It looks like what I removed originally.  I put a sample in a bottle with some Dot 5, to check for a negative reaction.  No swelling, softening, or other changes.If you need the dimensions that I got, I can get it for you tomorrow.  For a change we are having some serious rain, and the ground between my back door and the garage is all mud.Bob

On Monday, February 24, 2014 3:33 AM, "coxs.gorrel@virgin.net" wrote:
  Folks,
I am having great difficulty sourcing 'ready made' suitable  sized packing between the expander tube 'nozzle and  the 'connection' on the Hayes brakes.
I am looking to use DOT5 fluid and Viton or Nitrile packing/O-rings - please say so if this is not such a good idea.
What combination of fluid and packing are y'all using out there and where could I get the packing or will it have to be a DIY job?
Many thanks
Frank Cox
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[FJC]

'Thank you Bob,  That’s exactly what I am after – The dimensions would be very welcome and I will look for some over here.  However we unfortunately  live in a metric world but I expect I can find it in a vintage car restoration shop – luckily we have a very large one only 35 minutes’ drive away.  Don’t even mention rain – we have had the wettest January and February since records began in 1910 with a succession of powerful ‘Lows’ scooting across the Atlantic with gale/storm force winds – Train tracks washed away – 20 square miles of farmland under water since just before Christmas. They’ve brought in huge pumps from Holland to move it. River Thames has caused havoc from Oxford all the way to London. Luckily we’ve been OK – we don’t live on a flood plain.  Frank  From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Etter
Sent: 28 February 2014 20:04
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Hayes Brakes expander tube 'Nozzle' packing    I think I know what you are looking for.   The inside diameter fits the expander tube stem, and the wall thickness is about 3/32" or so.  Length is around is maybe 1/4" long.  I used something that resembled Vacuum Line from a car or truck, no re-enforcing fibers.   It looks like what I removed originally.  I put a sample in a bottle with some Dot 5, to check for a negative reaction.  No swelling, softening, or other changes.If you need the dimensions that I got, I can get it for you tomorrow.  For a change we are having some serious rain, and the ground between my back door and the garage is all mud.Bob  On Monday, February 24, 2014 3:33 AM, "coxs.gorrel@virgin.net" wrote:  Folks,
I am having great difficulty sourcing 'ready made' suitable  sized packing between the expander tube 'nozzle and  the 'connection' on the Hayes brakes.
I am looking to use DOT5 fluid and Viton or Nitrile packing/O-rings - please say so if this is not such a good idea.
What combination of fluid and packing are y'all using out there and where could I get the packing or will it have to be a DIY job?
Many thanks
Frank Cox
Argus III   G-BCBL  No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7134 - Release Date: 02/28/14'

[robert Etter]

'The packing's that I made were:Outside diameter - 11mm /  .45"Inside diameter - 5.8mm /  .23"Wall thickness - 2.6mm /  .10"Length - 6.6mm / .26"The lengths, I had to guess on that.  They had been compressed for many years, and didn't rebound to their original length.It looks like an un-reinforced rubber line that would be used as a vacuum line. I slid the rubber onto a screw driver shank, or something that was 1/4" in diameter, with the help of some light oil.  Put that into a lathe and started cutting off 1/4" lengths.  Nice and square  ends. The Master Cylinder Kit I used was NAPA/United Brake Parts #47730 08109 0.  As I remember, there was a couple small pieces in the kits that I didn't use.  The dust boot, the main cup, and the washer the fits onto the plunger were perfect.2 different soft copper washers from NAPA  outer 19mm/inner 13mm, & 20.5mm/15.3mm. Bob  

On Friday, February 28, 2014 1:35 PM, FJC wrote:
  Thank you Bob,  That’s exactly what I am after – The dimensions would be very welcome and I will look for some over here.  However we unfortunately  live in a metric world but I expect I can find it in a vintage car restoration shop – luckily we have a very large one only 35 minutes’ drive away.  Don’t even mention rain – we have had the wettest January and February since records began in 1910 with a succession of powerful ‘Lows’ scooting across the Atlantic with gale/storm force winds – Train tracks washed away – 20 square miles of farmland under water since just before Christmas. They’ve brought in huge pumps from Holland to move it. River Thames has caused havoc from Oxford all the way to London. Luckily we’ve been OK – we don’t live on a flood plain.  Frank  From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Etter
Sent: 28 February 2014 20:04
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Hayes Brakes expander tube 'Nozzle' packing    I think I know what you are looking for.   The inside diameter fits the expander tube stem, and the wall thickness is about 3/32" or so.  Length is around is maybe 1/4" long.  I used something that resembled Vacuum Line from a car or truck, no re-enforcing fibers.   It looks like what I removed originally.  I put a sample in a bottle with some Dot 5, to check for a negative reaction.  No swelling, softening, or other changes.If you need the dimensions that I got, I can get it for you tomorrow.  For a change we are having some serious rain, and the ground between my back door and the garage is all mud.Bob  On Monday, February 24, 2014 3:33 AM, "coxs.gorrel@virgin.net" wrote:  Folks,
I am having great difficulty sourcing 'ready made' suitable  sized packing between the expander tube 'nozzle and  the 'connection' on the Hayes brakes.
I am looking to use DOT5 fluid and Viton or Nitrile packing/O-rings - please say so if this is not such a good idea.
What combination of fluid and packing are y'all using out there and where could I get the packing or will it have to be a DIY job?
Many thanks
Frank Cox
Argus III   G-BCBL  No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/
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