Re: Ranger Engine Parameters

super_dan2000 · Post by **super_dan2000** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:13 pm

'I JUST completed a restoration on my 1939 Fairchild 24. It has a Ranger engine.

Everything seems to run perfectly; I've got about 5 hours ground time on the engine, and have flown it about 2 hours. Oil consumption is nil, and it hasn't missed a beat.

Just wondering, the oil temp is consistent around 190 degrees F, and the CHT is steady around 250. Is this normal?

The days have been hot and fairly humid, but I can't seem to find any information on normal operating ranges of the engine...

Any input would help. Thanks!

-Dan'

ptcurt@gmail.com · Post by **ptcurt@gmail.com** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:25 pm

'Something seriously wrong if its not using any oil:)

Oil temp is a bit high as desired max is 170, but redline is 200. It is still breaking in so the temp may come down.

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Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Engine Parameters

I JUST completed a restoration on my 1939 Fairchild 24. It has a Ranger engine.

Everything seems to run perfectly; I've got about 5 hours ground time on the engine, and have flown it about 2 hours. Oil consumption is nil, and it hasn't missed a beat.

Just wondering, the oil temp is consistent around 190 degrees F, and the CHT is steady around 250. Is this normal?

The days have been hot and fairly humid, but I can't seem to find any information on normal operating ranges of the engine...

Any input would help. Thanks!

-Dan

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dc871f · Post by **dc871f** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:43 am

'Do you plan to use straight mineral oil after the break in period?

What is your oil pressure been running at?

Just curious.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, ptcurt@... wrote:
>
> Something seriously wrong if its not using any oil:)
>
> Oil temp is a bit high as desired max is 170, but redline is 200. It is still breaking in so the temp may come down.
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "super_dan2000"
> Sender: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:12:56
> To:
> Reply-To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Engine Parameters
>
> I JUST completed a restoration on my 1939 Fairchild 24. It has a Ranger engine.
>
> Everything seems to run perfectly; I've got about 5 hours ground time on the engine, and have flown it about 2 hours. Oil consumption is nil, and it hasn't missed a beat.
>
> Just wondering, the oil temp is consistent around 190 degrees F, and the CHT is steady around 250. Is this normal?
>
> The days have been hot and fairly humid, but I can't seem to find any information on normal operating ranges of the engine...
>
> Any input would help. Thanks!
>
> -Dan
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Cy Galley · Post by **Cy Galley** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:04 am

'So what is wrong with 190°?

From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of dc871f
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 10:43 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Ranger Engine Parameters

Do you plan to use straight mineral oil after the break in period?

What is your oil pressure been running at?

Just curious.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
, ptcurt@... wrote:

>
> Something seriously wrong if its not using any oil:)
>
> Oil temp is a bit high as desired max is 170, but redline is 200. It is

still breaking in so the temp may come down.

> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "super_dan2000"
> Sender: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:12:56
> To:
> Reply-To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Engine Parameters
>
> I JUST completed a restoration on my 1939 Fairchild 24. It has a Ranger
engine.
>
> Everything seems to run perfectly; I've got about 5 hours ground time on
the engine, and have flown it about 2 hours. Oil consumption is nil, and it
hasn't missed a beat.
>
> Just wondering, the oil temp is consistent around 190 degrees F, and the
CHT is steady around 250. Is this normal?
>
> The days have been hot and fairly humid, but I can't seem to find any
information on normal operating ranges of the engine...
>
> Any input would help. Thanks!
>
> -Dan
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Jack Threadgill · Post by **Jack Threadgill** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:24 am

'For what it is worth, my Ranger in a PT-19 runs about 160 to 170 deg's F
depending on OAT. CHT's are about 280 deg's F.

Now that mine is broken in, I have adjusted the oil pressure to be 50 psi
when hot and I use Aeroshell W120, 60 wt oil.

Jack M. Threadgill

1602 Brook Hollow Dr

Bryan, Texas 77802

979-779-7155

threadgl@suddenlink.net

From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of dc871f
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 10:43 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Ranger Engine Parameters

Do you plan to use straight mineral oil after the break in period?

What is your oil pressure been running at?

Just curious.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
, ptcurt@... wrote:

>
> Something seriously wrong if its not using any oil:)
>
> Oil temp is a bit high as desired max is 170, but redline is 200. It is

still breaking in so the temp may come down.

> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "super_dan2000"
> Sender: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:12:56
> To:
> Reply-To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Engine Parameters
>
> I JUST completed a restoration on my 1939 Fairchild 24. It has a Ranger
engine.
>
> Everything seems to run perfectly; I've got about 5 hours ground time on
the engine, and have flown it about 2 hours. Oil consumption is nil, and it
hasn't missed a beat.
>
> Just wondering, the oil temp is consistent around 190 degrees F, and the
CHT is steady around 250. Is this normal?
>
> The days have been hot and fairly humid, but I can't seem to find any
information on normal operating ranges of the engine...
>
> Any input would help. Thanks!
>
> -Dan
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]'

super_dan2000 · Post by **super_dan2000** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:05 am

'Jack,
Thanks for the info. From what I've gathered everything is running as it should. I've hit 190 oil temp while doing touch-and-gos, and really working the engine... It drops at cruise.

Thanks again,
-Dan

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Threadgill" wrote:
>
> For what it is worth, my Ranger in a PT-19 runs about 160 to 170 deg's F
> depending on OAT. CHT's are about 280 deg's F.
>
>
>
> Now that mine is broken in, I have adjusted the oil pressure to be 50 psi
> when hot and I use Aeroshell W120, 60 wt oil.
>
>
>
> Jack M. Threadgill
>
> 1602 Brook Hollow Dr
>
> Bryan, Texas 77802
>
> 979-779-7155
>
> threadgl@...
>
>
>
>
>
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of dc871f
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 10:43 AM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Ranger Engine Parameters
>
>
>
>
>
> Do you plan to use straight mineral oil after the break in period?
>
> What is your oil pressure been running at?
>
> Just curious.
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> , ptcurt@ wrote:
> >
> > Something seriously wrong if its not using any oil:)
> >
> > Oil temp is a bit high as desired max is 170, but redline is 200. It is
> still breaking in so the temp may come down.
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "super_dan2000"
> > Sender: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:12:56
> > To: >
> > Reply-To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Engine Parameters
> >
> > I JUST completed a restoration on my 1939 Fairchild 24. It has a Ranger
> engine.
> >
> > Everything seems to run perfectly; I've got about 5 hours ground time on
> the engine, and have flown it about 2 hours. Oil consumption is nil, and it
> hasn't missed a beat.
> >
> > Just wondering, the oil temp is consistent around 190 degrees F, and the
> CHT is steady around 250. Is this normal?
> >
> > The days have been hot and fairly humid, but I can't seem to find any
> information on normal operating ranges of the engine...
> >
> > Any input would help. Thanks!
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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super_dan2000 · Post by **super_dan2000** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:15 am

'Hello!
The engine has about 150 hours SMOH, so its well broken in. Oil pressure at cruise is right around 50, higher at takeoff, lower at idle.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "dc871f" wrote:
>
> Do you plan to use straight mineral oil after the break in period?
>
> What is your oil pressure been running at?
>
> Just curious.
>
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, ptcurt@ wrote:
> >
> > Something seriously wrong if its not using any oil:)
> >
> > Oil temp is a bit high as desired max is 170, but redline is 200. It is still breaking in so the temp may come down.
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "super_dan2000"
> > Sender: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:12:56
> > To:
> > Reply-To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Engine Parameters
> >
> > I JUST completed a restoration on my 1939 Fairchild 24. It has a Ranger engine.
> >
> > Everything seems to run perfectly; I've got about 5 hours ground time on the engine, and have flown it about 2 hours. Oil consumption is nil, and it hasn't missed a beat.
> >
> > Just wondering, the oil temp is consistent around 190 degrees F, and the CHT is steady around 250. Is this normal?
> >
> > The days have been hot and fairly humid, but I can't seem to find any information on normal operating ranges of the engine...
> >
> > Any input would help. Thanks!
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

'

Mike Danielle · Post by **Mike Danielle** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:21 pm

'Wondering who did the o'haul. My freshly redone (Antique Aero) C-5 runs
about the same oil temp as yours. Brad Ball says not to worry about that
temp with his rebuilds. I don't have a cht gauge.

Ranger Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of super_dan2000
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:56 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Ranger Engine Parameters

Hello!
The engine has about 150 hours SMOH, so its well broken in. Oil pressure at
cruise is right around 50, higher at takeoff, lower at idle.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "dc871f" wrote:
>
> Do you plan to use straight mineral oil after the break in period?
>
> What is your oil pressure been running at?
>
> Just curious.
>
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, ptcurt@ wrote:
> >
> > Something seriously wrong if its not using any oil:)
> >
> > Oil temp is a bit high as desired max is 170, but redline is 200. It is
still breaking in so the temp may come down.
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "super_dan2000"
> > Sender: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:12:56
> > To:
> > Reply-To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Engine Parameters
> >
> > I JUST completed a restoration on my 1939 Fairchild 24. It has a Ranger
engine.
> >
> > Everything seems to run perfectly; I've got about 5 hours ground time on
the engine, and have flown it about 2 hours. Oil consumption is nil, and it
hasn't missed a beat.
> >
> > Just wondering, the oil temp is consistent around 190 degrees F, and the
CHT is steady around 250. Is this normal?
> >
> > The days have been hot and fairly humid, but I can't seem to find any
information on normal operating ranges of the engine...
> >
> > Any input would help. Thanks!
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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Bob · Post by **Bob** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:45 pm

'Dan,

I think you are doing just fine. Many engine pros want engine oil temp of at least 185 degrees, in order to remove moisture from the engine oil. I have a 1939 with a large oil cooler hanging out the bottom, and can't get my oil over 160 degrees unless I block off part of the cooler.

Your 250 degree Cyl Head Temps are just fine. I recall that the max climb temp is about 425 and max cruise temp is about 350. The hottest cylinders on the engine are #2 and #5. There is a factory mod to the removable baffle that is supposed to help cool #5.

Bob Waldron
Webster, MN
1939 Fairchild 24K

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "super_dan2000" wrote:
>
> I JUST completed a restoration on my 1939 Fairchild 24. It has a Ranger engine.
>
> Everything seems to run perfectly; I've got about 5 hours ground time on the engine, and have flown it about 2 hours. Oil consumption is nil, and it hasn't missed a beat.
>
> Just wondering, the oil temp is consistent around 190 degrees F, and the CHT is steady around 250. Is this normal?
>
> The days have been hot and fairly humid, but I can't seem to find any information on normal operating ranges of the engine...
>
> Any input would help. Thanks!
>
> -Dan
>

'

super_dan2000 · Post by **super_dan2000** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:57 am

'Mike,
Sorry I can't help you there; the engine was rebuilt back in the 1970s and crated... We just checked it out - everything is normal... I'd have to go through the stacks of paperwork to figure out who did the overhaul and when

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Danielle" wrote:
>
> Wondering who did the o'haul. My freshly redone (Antique Aero) C-5 runs
> about the same oil temp as yours. Brad Ball says not to worry about that
> temp with his rebuilds. I don't have a cht gauge.
>
> Ranger Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of super_dan2000
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:56 AM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Ranger Engine Parameters
>
> Hello!
> The engine has about 150 hours SMOH, so its well broken in. Oil pressure at
> cruise is right around 50, higher at takeoff, lower at idle.
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "dc871f" wrote:
> >
> > Do you plan to use straight mineral oil after the break in period?
> >
> > What is your oil pressure been running at?
> >
> > Just curious.
> >
> >
> > --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, ptcurt@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Something seriously wrong if its not using any oil:)
> > >
> > > Oil temp is a bit high as desired max is 170, but redline is 200. It is
> still breaking in so the temp may come down.
> > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "super_dan2000"
> > > Sender: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:12:56
> > > To:
> > > Reply-To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Engine Parameters
> > >
> > > I JUST completed a restoration on my 1939 Fairchild 24. It has a Ranger
> engine.
> > >
> > > Everything seems to run perfectly; I've got about 5 hours ground time on
> the engine, and have flown it about 2 hours. Oil consumption is nil, and it
> hasn't missed a beat.
> > >
> > > Just wondering, the oil temp is consistent around 190 degrees F, and the
> CHT is steady around 250. Is this normal?
> > >
> > > The days have been hot and fairly humid, but I can't seem to find any
> information on normal operating ranges of the engine...
> > >
> > > Any input would help. Thanks!
> > >
> > > -Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>
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