Re: Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.

Michael Kelly · Post by **Michael Kelly** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:57 pm

'I was looking at the last Fairchild Flyer that John Berendt put out(2008 VOL 20 #2. He had some information about the Cleveland conversion. The 310 Kit has the 3 puck system. Some think the 3 puck is too much braking. I haven't heard of any problems with the 3 puck system but I guess if you got a little heavy on braking, you could over do the braking and maybe nose the plane up. His article has a 2 puck system by Cleveland Part No. 20-278. The wheel size is still a 650-10. I have a copy of a 337 for the Cleveland convertion on a PT in the Club files. Greg Ward did it years ago on the PT-23 they have in the Kalamzoo Aviation History Museum. There are a couple other PT's that have the Cleveland convertion on them that I know of. If anyone would like the owners names, let me know!

Keep 'em Flying!

Mike Kelly
Fairchild Club'

Jim higham · Post by **Jim higham** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:39 pm

'Although it sounds logical that three pucks allow more braking action with less
control than two pucks, but using the original master cylinder with Cleveland
wheel cylinders having three actuating pistons (pucks) increase the
amount of travel the master cylinder piston moves to displace enough fluid to
actuate the braking action. By decreasing the wheel cylinder number of pucks by
a third also decreases master cylinder piston movement by a third and braking
action begins a third quicker. My preference is the more pedal travel the more
control you have as long as you don't run out of travel. These Cleveland wheel
cylinders were designed to be actuated by a .625" diameter bore master cylinder,
the Fairchild original master cylinder is 1.25" diameter bore displacing almost
twice as much fluid as the Cleveland's need. I found when I installed the
Cleveland master cylinder it increased the brake pedal travel and as far as I'm
concerned gave me better control and feel and it's almost impossible to
accidentally actuate them.

________________________________
From: Michael kelly
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 9:57:01 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.

I was looking at the last Fairchild Flyer that John Berendt put out(2008 VOL 20
#2. He had some information about the Cleveland conversion. The 310 Kit has the
3 puck system. Some think the 3 puck is too much braking. I haven't heard of any
problems with the 3 puck system but I guess if you got a little heavy on
braking, you could over do the braking and maybe nose the plane up. His article
has a 2 puck system by Cleveland Part No. 20-278. The wheel size is still a
650-10. I have a copy of a 337 for the Cleveland convertion on a PT in the Club
files. Greg Ward did it years ago on the PT-23 they have in the Kalamzoo
Aviation History Museum. There are a couple other PT's that have the Cleveland
convertion on them that I know of. If anyone would like the owners names, let me
know!

Keep 'em Flying!

Mike Kelly
Fairchild Club

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]'

Fritz · Post by **Fritz** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:54 pm

'Well folks, I for one would like to get complete info on what is needed to
convert my PT-19 to the 310 system.
Thanks,
Fritz Mehrer
avdflyr@cox.net
Cell: 1-760-672-8126

-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Higham
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:40 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.

Although it sounds logical that three pucks allow more braking action with
less
control than two pucks, but using the original master cylinder with
Cleveland
wheel cylinders having three actuating pistons (pucks) increase the
amount of travel the master cylinder piston moves to displace enough fluid
to
actuate the braking action. By decreasing the wheel cylinder number of pucks
by
a third also decreases master cylinder piston movement by a third and
braking
action begins a third quicker. My preference is the more pedal travel the
more
control you have as long as you don't run out of travel. These Cleveland
wheel
cylinders were designed to be actuated by a .625" diameter bore master
cylinder,
the Fairchild original master cylinder is 1.25" diameter bore displacing
almost
twice as much fluid as the Cleveland's need. I found when I installed the
Cleveland master cylinder it increased the brake pedal travel and as far as
I'm
concerned gave me better control and feel and it's almost impossible to
accidentally actuate them.

________________________________
From: Michael kelly
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 9:57:01 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.

I was looking at the last Fairchild Flyer that John Berendt put out(2008 VOL
20
#2. He had some information about the Cleveland conversion. The 310 Kit has
the
3 puck system. Some think the 3 puck is too much braking. I haven't heard of
any
problems with the 3 puck system but I guess if you got a little heavy on
braking, you could over do the braking and maybe nose the plane up. His
article
has a 2 puck system by Cleveland Part No. 20-278. The wheel size is still a
650-10. I have a copy of a 337 for the Cleveland convertion on a PT in the
Club
files. Greg Ward did it years ago on the PT-23 they have in the Kalamzoo
Aviation History Museum. There are a couple other PT's that have the
Cleveland
convertion on them that I know of. If anyone would like the owners names,
let me
know!

Keep 'em Flying!

Mike Kelly
Fairchild Club

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------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links'

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:17 pm

'Have you got the data disc from the Fairchild Club? It's got a FAA Data section with a good 8110-3 for a F24 and Field Approval 337 for the basis of approval to convert yours.

Jim Higham
Aviation Turbines International
Engine Sales
(319) 533-7890

On Apr 6, 2011, at 10:54 PM, "Fritz" wrote:

> Well folks, I for one would like to get complete info on what is needed to
> convert my PT-19 to the 310 system.
> Thanks,
> Fritz Mehrer
> avdflyr@cox.net
> Cell: 1-760-672-8126
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Jim Higham
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:40 PM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.
>
> Although it sounds logical that three pucks allow more braking action with
> less
> control than two pucks, but using the original master cylinder with
> Cleveland
> wheel cylinders having three actuating pistons (pucks) increase the
> amount of travel the master cylinder piston moves to displace enough fluid
> to
> actuate the braking action. By decreasing the wheel cylinder number of pucks
> by
> a third also decreases master cylinder piston movement by a third and
> braking
> action begins a third quicker. My preference is the more pedal travel the
> more
> control you have as long as you don't run out of travel. These Cleveland
> wheel
> cylinders were designed to be actuated by a .625" diameter bore master
> cylinder,
> the Fairchild original master cylinder is 1.25" diameter bore displacing
> almost
> twice as much fluid as the Cleveland's need. I found when I installed the
> Cleveland master cylinder it increased the brake pedal travel and as far as
> I'm
> concerned gave me better control and feel and it's almost impossible to
> accidentally actuate them.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael kelly
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 9:57:01 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.
>
>
> I was looking at the last Fairchild Flyer that John Berendt put out(2008 VOL
> 20
> #2. He had some information about the Cleveland conversion. The 310 Kit has
> the
> 3 puck system. Some think the 3 puck is too much braking. I haven't heard of
> any
> problems with the 3 puck system but I guess if you got a little heavy on
> braking, you could over do the braking and maybe nose the plane up. His
> article
> has a 2 puck system by Cleveland Part No. 20-278. The wheel size is still a
> 650-10. I have a copy of a 337 for the Cleveland convertion on a PT in the
> Club
> files. Greg Ward did it years ago on the PT-23 they have in the Kalamzoo
> Aviation History Museum. There are a couple other PT's that have the
> Cleveland
> convertion on them that I know of. If anyone would like the owners names,
> let me
> know!
>
> Keep 'em Flying!
>
> Mike Kelly
> Fairchild Club
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

'

Jay Thomson · Post by **Jay Thomson** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:10 pm

'My 24 has the Cessna 310/3 puck system and is not overbraked at all. The brakes feel the same as my Stinson 108-3 or any other airplane I've flown with disk brakes. When I first purchased the plane I was a little concerned about it being too touchy on the but they have turned out to be very nice. I have gotten on them pretty hard doing short field landings and have never felt that the tail was about to come off the ground.

--- On Wed, 4/6/11, Michael kelly wrote:

From: Michael kelly
Subject: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 8:57 PM

I was looking at the last Fairchild Flyer that John Berendt put out(2008 VOL 20 #2. He had some information about the Cleveland conversion. The 310 Kit has the 3 puck system. Some think the 3 puck is too much braking. I haven't heard of any problems with the 3 puck system but I guess if you got a little heavy on braking, you could over do the braking and maybe nose the plane up. His article has a 2 puck system by Cleveland Part No. 20-278. The wheel size is still a 650-10. I have a copy of a 337 for the Cleveland convertion on a PT in the Club files. Greg Ward did it years ago on the PT-23 they have in the Kalamzoo Aviation History Museum. There are a couple other PT's that have the Cleveland convertion on them that I know of. If anyone would like the owners names, let me know!

Keep 'em Flying!

Mike Kelly
Fairchild Club

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

'

Jay Thomson · Post by **Jay Thomson** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:14 pm

'I can email you a copy of my 337 and data if you would like.

--- On Wed, 4/6/11, Fritz wrote:

From: Fritz
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 9:54 PM

Well folks, I for one would like to get complete info on what is needed to
convert my PT-19 to the 310 system.
Thanks,
Fritz Mehrer
avdflyr@cox.net
Cell: 1-760-672-8126

-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Higham
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:40 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.

Although it sounds logical that three pucks allow more braking action with
less
control than two pucks, but using the original master cylinder with
Cleveland
wheel cylinders having three actuating pistons (pucks) increase the
amount of travel the master cylinder piston moves to displace enough fluid
to
actuate the braking action. By decreasing the wheel cylinder number of pucks
by
a third also decreases master cylinder piston movement by a third and
braking
action begins a third quicker. My preference is the more pedal travel the
more
control you have as long as you don't run out of travel. These Cleveland
wheel
cylinders were designed to be actuated by a .625" diameter bore master
cylinder,
the Fairchild original master cylinder is 1.25" diameter bore displacing
almost
twice as much fluid as the Cleveland's need. I found when I installed the
Cleveland master cylinder it increased the brake pedal travel and as far as
I'm
concerned gave me better control and feel and it's almost impossible to
accidentally actuate them.

________________________________
From: Michael kelly
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 9:57:01 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.

I was looking at the last Fairchild Flyer that John Berendt put out(2008 VOL
20
#2. He had some information about the Cleveland conversion. The 310 Kit has
the
3 puck system. Some think the 3 puck is too much braking. I haven't heard of
any
problems with the 3 puck system but I guess if you got a little heavy on
braking, you could over do the braking and maybe nose the plane up. His
article
has a 2 puck system by Cleveland Part No. 20-278. The wheel size is still a
650-10. I have a copy of a 337 for the Cleveland convertion on a PT in the
Club
files. Greg Ward did it years ago on the PT-23 they have in the Kalamzoo
Aviation History Museum. There are a couple other PT's that have the
Cleveland
convertion on them that I know of. If anyone would like the owners names,
let me
know!

Keep 'em Flying!

Mike Kelly
Fairchild Club

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

'

Fritz · Post by **Fritz** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:52 pm

'Jim,
I don't have the CD from the Club. How can I identify which reference to
search to get it from the website??
Fritz

-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:11 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.

Have you got the data disc from the Fairchild Club? It's got a FAA Data
section with a good 8110-3 for a F24 and Field Approval 337 for the basis
of approval to convert yours.

Jim Higham
Aviation Turbines International
Engine Sales
(319) 533-7890

On Apr 6, 2011, at 10:54 PM, "Fritz" wrote:

> Well folks, I for one would like to get complete info on what is needed to
> convert my PT-19 to the 310 system.
> Thanks,
> Fritz Mehrer
> avdflyr@cox.net
> Cell: 1-760-672-8126
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Jim Higham
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:40 PM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.
>
> Although it sounds logical that three pucks allow more braking action with
> less
> control than two pucks, but using the original master cylinder with
> Cleveland
> wheel cylinders having three actuating pistons (pucks) increase the
> amount of travel the master cylinder piston moves to displace enough fluid
> to
> actuate the braking action. By decreasing the wheel cylinder number of
pucks
> by
> a third also decreases master cylinder piston movement by a third and
> braking
> action begins a third quicker. My preference is the more pedal travel the
> more
> control you have as long as you don't run out of travel. These Cleveland
> wheel
> cylinders were designed to be actuated by a .625" diameter bore master
> cylinder,
> the Fairchild original master cylinder is 1.25" diameter bore displacing
> almost
> twice as much fluid as the Cleveland's need. I found when I installed the
> Cleveland master cylinder it increased the brake pedal travel and as far
as
> I'm
> concerned gave me better control and feel and it's almost impossible to
> accidentally actuate them.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael kelly
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 9:57:01 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.
>
>
> I was looking at the last Fairchild Flyer that John Berendt put out(2008
VOL
> 20
> #2. He had some information about the Cleveland conversion. The 310 Kit
has
> the
> 3 puck system. Some think the 3 puck is too much braking. I haven't heard
of
> any
> problems with the 3 puck system but I guess if you got a little heavy on
> braking, you could over do the braking and maybe nose the plane up. His
> article
> has a 2 puck system by Cleveland Part No. 20-278. The wheel size is still
a
> 650-10. I have a copy of a 337 for the Cleveland convertion on a PT in the
> Club
> files. Greg Ward did it years ago on the PT-23 they have in the Kalamzoo
> Aviation History Museum. There are a couple other PT's that have the
> Cleveland
> convertion on them that I know of. If anyone would like the owners names,
> let me
> know!
>
> Keep 'em Flying!
>
> Mike Kelly
> Fairchild Club
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

'

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:19 am

'The website will not have what you are looking for. What you need is examples of 337 Field Approvals from previously modified aircraft to see how they accomplished their installation, you also reference this list of previously approved installations as part of your approved data in your Field Approval. These 337s will show exactly how install the brakes, which is simple, your IA can assist you. The only thing this chat room will show is the conversations regarding peoples installations. I do however recommend the Fairchild Club disc, as well as asking this chat group for registration numbers and copies of their 337s of previously approved aircraft. My registration number is N81207 and is F24R46-108, I also did a friends and his is N81363, F24r46-263. Although these are 24s and not PTs, the installations are the same and you can use the Instructions for Continued Airworthiness to help make yours. I would be glad to send you copies of mine but the Yahoo chat site won't allow attachments on emails, so if you email me at higham_jim@yahoo.com I will forward it to you.

Jim
(319) 533-7890

On Apr 7, 2011, at 12:52 AM, "Fritz" wrote:

> Jim,
> I don't have the CD from the Club. How can I identify which reference to
> search to get it from the website??
> Fritz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Jim
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:11 PM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.
>
> Have you got the data disc from the Fairchild Club? It's got a FAA Data
> section with a good 8110-3 for a F24 and Field Approval 337 for the basis
> of approval to convert yours.
>
> Jim Higham
> Aviation Turbines International
> Engine Sales
> (319) 533-7890
>
> On Apr 6, 2011, at 10:54 PM, "Fritz" wrote:
>
> > Well folks, I for one would like to get complete info on what is needed to
> > convert my PT-19 to the 310 system.
> > Thanks,
> > Fritz Mehrer
> > avdflyr@cox.net
> > Cell: 1-760-672-8126
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of Jim Higham
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:40 PM
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.
> >
> > Although it sounds logical that three pucks allow more braking action with
> > less
> > control than two pucks, but using the original master cylinder with
> > Cleveland
> > wheel cylinders having three actuating pistons (pucks) increase the
> > amount of travel the master cylinder piston moves to displace enough fluid
> > to
> > actuate the braking action. By decreasing the wheel cylinder number of
> pucks
> > by
> > a third also decreases master cylinder piston movement by a third and
> > braking
> > action begins a third quicker. My preference is the more pedal travel the
> > more
> > control you have as long as you don't run out of travel. These Cleveland
> > wheel
> > cylinders were designed to be actuated by a .625" diameter bore master
> > cylinder,
> > the Fairchild original master cylinder is 1.25" diameter bore displacing
> > almost
> > twice as much fluid as the Cleveland's need. I found when I installed the
> > Cleveland master cylinder it increased the brake pedal travel and as far
> as
> > I'm
> > concerned gave me better control and feel and it's almost impossible to
> > accidentally actuate them.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Michael kelly
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 9:57:01 PM
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.
> >
> >
> > I was looking at the last Fairchild Flyer that John Berendt put out(2008
> VOL
> > 20
> > #2. He had some information about the Cleveland conversion. The 310 Kit
> has
> > the
> > 3 puck system. Some think the 3 puck is too much braking. I haven't heard
> of
> > any
> > problems with the 3 puck system but I guess if you got a little heavy on
> > braking, you could over do the braking and maybe nose the plane up. His
> > article
> > has a 2 puck system by Cleveland Part No. 20-278. The wheel size is still
> a
> > 650-10. I have a copy of a 337 for the Cleveland convertion on a PT in the
> > Club
> > files. Greg Ward did it years ago on the PT-23 they have in the Kalamzoo
> > Aviation History Museum. There are a couple other PT's that have the
> > Cleveland
> > convertion on them that I know of. If anyone would like the owners names,
> > let me
> > know!
> >
> > Keep 'em Flying!
> >
> > Mike Kelly
> > Fairchild Club
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

'

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:45 pm

'All,

I heard a rumor that Cleveland (Parker) was not producing the 6:50 x 10 Taper Shaft Wheel assemblies (P/N 40-40A (6.50 x 10 as used on Cessna C-310)). This is not true. I confirmed today that they are and will continue to produce these wheels.

JST

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Jim wrote:
>
> The website will not have what you are looking for. What you need is examples of 337 Field Approvals from previously modified aircraft to see how they accomplished their installation, you also reference this list of previously approved installations as part of your approved data in your Field Approval. These 337s will show exactly how install the brakes, which is simple, your IA can assist you. The only thing this chat room will show is the conversations regarding peoples installations. I do however recommend the Fairchild Club disc, as well as asking this chat group for registration numbers and copies of their 337s of previously approved aircraft. My registration number is N81207 and is F24R46-108, I also did a friends and his is N81363, F24r46-263. Although these are 24s and not PTs, the installations are the same and you can use the Instructions for Continued Airworthiness to help make yours. I would be glad to send you copies of mine but the Yahoo chat site won't allow attachments on emails, so if you email me at higham_jim@... I will forward it to you.
>
> Jim
> (319) 533-7890
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2011, at 12:52 AM, "Fritz" wrote:
>
> > Jim,
> > I don't have the CD from the Club. How can I identify which reference to
> > search to get it from the website??
> > Fritz
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of Jim
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:11 PM
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.
> >
> > Have you got the data disc from the Fairchild Club? It's got a FAA Data
> > section with a good 8110-3 for a F24 and Field Approval 337 for the basis
> > of approval to convert yours.
> >
> > Jim Higham
> > Aviation Turbines International
> > Engine Sales
> > (319) 533-7890
> >
> > On Apr 6, 2011, at 10:54 PM, "Fritz" wrote:
> >
> > > Well folks, I for one would like to get complete info on what is needed to
> > > convert my PT-19 to the 310 system.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Fritz Mehrer
> > > avdflyr@...
> > > Cell: 1-760-672-8126
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> > > On Behalf Of Jim Higham
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:40 PM
> > > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.
> > >
> > > Although it sounds logical that three pucks allow more braking action with
> > > less
> > > control than two pucks, but using the original master cylinder with
> > > Cleveland
> > > wheel cylinders having three actuating pistons (pucks) increase the
> > > amount of travel the master cylinder piston moves to displace enough fluid
> > > to
> > > actuate the braking action. By decreasing the wheel cylinder number of
> > pucks
> > > by
> > > a third also decreases master cylinder piston movement by a third and
> > > braking
> > > action begins a third quicker. My preference is the more pedal travel the
> > > more
> > > control you have as long as you don't run out of travel. These Cleveland
> > > wheel
> > > cylinders were designed to be actuated by a .625" diameter bore master
> > > cylinder,
> > > the Fairchild original master cylinder is 1.25" diameter bore displacing
> > > almost
> > > twice as much fluid as the Cleveland's need. I found when I installed the
> > > Cleveland master cylinder it increased the brake pedal travel and as far
> > as
> > > I'm
> > > concerned gave me better control and feel and it's almost impossible to
> > > accidentally actuate them.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Michael kelly
> > > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 9:57:01 PM
> > > Subject: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes for fairchilds.
> > >
> > >
> > > I was looking at the last Fairchild Flyer that John Berendt put out(2008
> > VOL
> > > 20
> > > #2. He had some information about the Cleveland conversion. The 310 Kit
> > has
> > > the
> > > 3 puck system. Some think the 3 puck is too much braking. I haven't heard
> > of
> > > any
> > > problems with the 3 puck system but I guess if you got a little heavy on
> > > braking, you could over do the braking and maybe nose the plane up. His
> > > article
> > > has a 2 puck system by Cleveland Part No. 20-278. The wheel size is still
> > a
> > > 650-10. I have a copy of a 337 for the Cleveland convertion on a PT in the
> > > Club
> > > files. Greg Ward did it years ago on the PT-23 they have in the Kalamzoo
> > > Aviation History Museum. There are a couple other PT's that have the
> > > Cleveland
> > > convertion on them that I know of. If anyone would like the owners names,
> > > let me
> > > know!
> > >
> > > Keep 'em Flying!
> > >
> > > Mike Kelly
> > > Fairchild Club
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
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trp.8888 · Post by **trp.8888** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:49 pm

'can someone send me the 337's for this brake conversion? I need to replace mine originals
TimNC25328
trp.8888@gmail.com'

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