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Re: NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
'OK thanks Richard,
I appreciate your help. It looks like the 145 drawing won't help me at all.
I will let you know if I run out of options on getting the drawing
Joe
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Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
The 145 mount is completely different...the fuselage tubing extends out
past the firewall to taper...with a circular tube mount attached. The 165
mount starts right at the firewall and detaches from the firewall. The
dishpans are also completely different with the 145 being a tapered
cone...the
165 is a flatter plate with curved sides.
Good luck to you. I hope the drawings will be what you need.
Richard Hawley NC19105
In a message dated 3/21/2011 11:08:11 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
Joe@Preston-Company.com writes:
Hi Richard,
Thanks for the offer. I am in NJ. I can make that work if needed. I have a
new 165 mount that someone made up but we are 99% sure it is incorrect. The
old dish pan and spinning are sitting about 2" too high. If I can get the
drawings off of the disk, that may be the easiest approach.
Just curious, are there measurable differences between the 145 and the 165
mounts?
Joe
Cell - 908-963-8431
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Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Joe,
I'm in the midst of restoration of a 1937 24G...have both a 145 Warner
mount...removed from the fuselage...and a 165 mount...for the conversion.
Maybe you could make a copy.
What is your location?
Richard Hawley
24878 Richmond Hill Rd.
Conifer, CO 80433
303-838-4670
In a message dated 3/21/2011 7:29:34 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
_Joe@Preston-Company.com _
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writes:
Hi Guys,
I am looking for information around the Firewall forward for a Fairchild
24.
In particular, I am looking for a drawing for the Warner 165 mount. I have
been in touch with one of your members and we are pursuing getting a
drawing
for a 145, but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has one. I realize
this has probably already been asked and discussed, but as a new member, I
wanted to be sure. I am also interested in finding a drawing for the oil
tank. Anyone have anything related?
Thanks,
Joe
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Comment from user: davehadfield53
Hi, I own a Fairchild 24W in Canada, C-FEKC. In fact it's the one
pictured on the website home page, with me in it.
Cheers,
Dave Hadfield
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I appreciate your help. It looks like the 145 drawing won't help me at all.
I will let you know if I run out of options on getting the drawing
Joe
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Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 13:37
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
The 145 mount is completely different...the fuselage tubing extends out
past the firewall to taper...with a circular tube mount attached. The 165
mount starts right at the firewall and detaches from the firewall. The
dishpans are also completely different with the 145 being a tapered
cone...the
165 is a flatter plate with curved sides.
Good luck to you. I hope the drawings will be what you need.
Richard Hawley NC19105
In a message dated 3/21/2011 11:08:11 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
Joe@Preston-Company.com writes:
Hi Richard,
Thanks for the offer. I am in NJ. I can make that work if needed. I have a
new 165 mount that someone made up but we are 99% sure it is incorrect. The
old dish pan and spinning are sitting about 2" too high. If I can get the
drawings off of the disk, that may be the easiest approach.
Just curious, are there measurable differences between the 145 and the 165
mounts?
Joe
Cell - 908-963-8431
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Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Joe,
I'm in the midst of restoration of a 1937 24G...have both a 145 Warner
mount...removed from the fuselage...and a 165 mount...for the conversion.
Maybe you could make a copy.
What is your location?
Richard Hawley
24878 Richmond Hill Rd.
Conifer, CO 80433
303-838-4670
In a message dated 3/21/2011 7:29:34 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
_Joe@Preston-Company.com _
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writes:
Hi Guys,
I am looking for information around the Firewall forward for a Fairchild
24.
In particular, I am looking for a drawing for the Warner 165 mount. I have
been in touch with one of your members and we are pursuing getting a
drawing
for a 145, but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has one. I realize
this has probably already been asked and discussed, but as a new member, I
wanted to be sure. I am also interested in finding a drawing for the oil
tank. Anyone have anything related?
Thanks,
Joe
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Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER -- Dave Hadfield
Comment from user: davehadfield53
Hi, I own a Fairchild 24W in Canada, C-FEKC. In fact it's the one
pictured on the website home page, with me in it.
Cheers,
Dave Hadfield
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Re: NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
'Hi Joe
For a copy of the CD contact Jamie Treat.
Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair, LLC
Fairchild Club CD ROM Editor
IAC 5, Chapter President
http://iac5.org
Kelly Airpark (CO15) http://www.kellyairpark.com
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106
For a copy of the CD contact Jamie Treat.
Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair, LLC
Fairchild Club CD ROM Editor
IAC 5, Chapter President
http://iac5.org
Kelly Airpark (CO15) http://www.kellyairpark.com
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106
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From: Joe Preston
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Thanks Rich,
How do I get a copy of the disk?
Joe
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On Behalf Of Richard Seifert
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:02
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Hi Joe
Welcome to the club. The Club CD has the Fairchild drawings 42381 & 48540
for the mount & engine ring for the long nose F24.
Rich Seifert
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From: Joe Preston
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 6:29 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Hi Guys,
I am looking for information around the Firewall forward for a Fairchild 24.
In particular, I am looking for a drawing for the Warner 165 mount. I have
been in touch with one of your members and we are pursuing getting a drawing
for a 145, but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has one. I realize
this has probably already been asked and discussed, but as a new member, I
wanted to be sure. I am also interested in finding a drawing for the oil
tank. Anyone have anything related?
Thanks,
Joe
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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 18:41
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Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER -- Dave Hadfield
Comment from user: davehadfield53
Hi, I own a Fairchild 24W in Canada, C-FEKC. In fact it's the one
pictured on the website home page, with me in it.
Cheers,
Dave Hadfield
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Re: NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
'Joe
Sorry I can't answer that question. I'm a Ranger guy.
Sorry I can't answer that question. I'm a Ranger guy.
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From: Joe Preston
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Hi Richard,
Thanks for the offer. I am in NJ. I can make that work if needed. I have a
new 165 mount that someone made up but we are 99% sure it is incorrect. The
old dish pan and spinning are sitting about 2" too high. If I can get the
drawings off of the disk, that may be the easiest approach.
Just curious, are there measurable differences between the 145 and the 165
mounts?
Joe
Cell - 908-963-8431
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On Behalf Of OldOOwl@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:33
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Joe,
I'm in the midst of restoration of a 1937 24G...have both a 145 Warner
mount...removed from the fuselage...and a 165 mount...for the conversion.
Maybe you could make a copy.
What is your location?
Richard Hawley
24878 Richmond Hill Rd.
Conifer, CO 80433
303-838-4670
In a message dated 3/21/2011 7:29:34 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
Joe@Preston-Company.com writes:
Hi Guys,
I am looking for information around the Firewall forward for a Fairchild
24.
In particular, I am looking for a drawing for the Warner 165 mount. I have
been in touch with one of your members and we are pursuing getting a
drawing
for a 145, but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has one. I realize
this has probably already been asked and discussed, but as a new member, I
wanted to be sure. I am also interested in finding a drawing for the oil
tank. Anyone have anything related?
Thanks,
Joe
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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 18:41
To: Fairchild List
Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER -- Dave Hadfield
Comment from user: davehadfield53
Hi, I own a Fairchild 24W in Canada, C-FEKC. In fact it's the one
pictured on the website home page, with me in it.
Cheers,
Dave Hadfield
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Re: NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
'Hi Joe
The Part numbers I gave you are for the 165 Warner.
Rich
The Part numbers I gave you are for the 165 Warner.
Rich
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From: Joe Preston
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
OK thanks Richard,
I appreciate your help. It looks like the 145 drawing won't help me at all.
I will let you know if I run out of options on getting the drawing
Joe
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From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of OldOOwl@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 13:37
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
The 145 mount is completely different...the fuselage tubing extends out
past the firewall to taper...with a circular tube mount attached. The 165
mount starts right at the firewall and detaches from the firewall. The
dishpans are also completely different with the 145 being a tapered
cone...the
165 is a flatter plate with curved sides.
Good luck to you. I hope the drawings will be what you need.
Richard Hawley NC19105
In a message dated 3/21/2011 11:08:11 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
Joe@Preston-Company.com writes:
Hi Richard,
Thanks for the offer. I am in NJ. I can make that work if needed. I have a
new 165 mount that someone made up but we are 99% sure it is incorrect. The
old dish pan and spinning are sitting about 2" too high. If I can get the
drawings off of the disk, that may be the easiest approach.
Just curious, are there measurable differences between the 145 and the 165
mounts?
Joe
Cell - 908-963-8431
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Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Joe,
I'm in the midst of restoration of a 1937 24G...have both a 145 Warner
mount...removed from the fuselage...and a 165 mount...for the conversion.
Maybe you could make a copy.
What is your location?
Richard Hawley
24878 Richmond Hill Rd.
Conifer, CO 80433
303-838-4670
In a message dated 3/21/2011 7:29:34 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
_Joe@Preston-Company.com _
(mailto:Joe@Preston-Company.com )
writes:
Hi Guys,
I am looking for information around the Firewall forward for a Fairchild
24.
In particular, I am looking for a drawing for the Warner 165 mount. I have
been in touch with one of your members and we are pursuing getting a
drawing
for a 145, but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has one. I realize
this has probably already been asked and discussed, but as a new member, I
wanted to be sure. I am also interested in finding a drawing for the oil
tank. Anyone have anything related?
Thanks,
Joe
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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 18:41
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Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER -- Dave Hadfield
Comment from user: davehadfield53
Hi, I own a Fairchild 24W in Canada, C-FEKC. In fact it's the one
pictured on the website home page, with me in it.
Cheers,
Dave Hadfield
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Re: NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
'Just sent him an e-mail, thanks
Joe
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On Behalf Of Richard Seifert
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 16:58
To: Jamie Treat; fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Hi Joe
For a copy of the CD contact Jamie Treat.
Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair, LLC
Fairchild Club CD ROM Editor
IAC 5, Chapter President
http://iac5.org
Kelly Airpark (CO15) http://www.kellyairpark.com
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106
Joe
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On Behalf Of Richard Seifert
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 16:58
To: Jamie Treat; fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Hi Joe
For a copy of the CD contact Jamie Treat.
Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair, LLC
Fairchild Club CD ROM Editor
IAC 5, Chapter President
http://iac5.org
Kelly Airpark (CO15) http://www.kellyairpark.com
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106
'----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Preston
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Thanks Rich,
How do I get a copy of the disk?
Joe
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[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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On Behalf Of Richard Seifert
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:02
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Hi Joe
Welcome to the club. The Club CD has the Fairchild drawings 42381 & 48540
for the mount & engine ring for the long nose F24.
Rich Seifert
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Preston
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 6:29 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Hi Guys,
I am looking for information around the Firewall forward for a Fairchild 24.
In particular, I am looking for a drawing for the Warner 165 mount. I have
been in touch with one of your members and we are pursuing getting a drawing
for a 145, but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has one. I realize
this has probably already been asked and discussed, but as a new member, I
wanted to be sure. I am also interested in finding a drawing for the oil
tank. Anyone have anything related?
Thanks,
Joe
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On Behalf Of Dan Casali
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 18:41
To: Fairchild List
Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER -- Dave Hadfield
Comment from user: davehadfield53
Hi, I own a Fairchild 24W in Canada, C-FEKC. In fact it's the one
pictured on the website home page, with me in it.
Cheers,
Dave Hadfield
*** PLEASE NOTE ***
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group moderator. They were made during the new member sign-up and
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Re: NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
'Thanks Rich,
My other e-mails were going to Richard Hawley. Sorry for the confusion.
Joe
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From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Richard Seifert
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 17:04
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Hi Joe
The Part numbers I gave you are for the 165 Warner.
Rich
My other e-mails were going to Richard Hawley. Sorry for the confusion.
Joe
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On Behalf Of Richard Seifert
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 17:04
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Hi Joe
The Part numbers I gave you are for the 165 Warner.
Rich
'----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Preston
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
OK thanks Richard,
I appreciate your help. It looks like the 145 drawing won't help me at all.
I will let you know if I run out of options on getting the drawing
Joe
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On Behalf Of OldOOwl@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 13:37
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
The 145 mount is completely different...the fuselage tubing extends out
past the firewall to taper...with a circular tube mount attached. The 165
mount starts right at the firewall and detaches from the firewall. The
dishpans are also completely different with the 145 being a tapered
cone...the
165 is a flatter plate with curved sides.
Good luck to you. I hope the drawings will be what you need.
Richard Hawley NC19105
In a message dated 3/21/2011 11:08:11 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
Joe@Preston-Company.com
writes:
Hi Richard,
Thanks for the offer. I am in NJ. I can make that work if needed. I have a
new 165 mount that someone made up but we are 99% sure it is incorrect. The
old dish pan and spinning are sitting about 2" too high. If I can get the
drawings off of the disk, that may be the easiest approach.
Just curious, are there measurable differences between the 145 and the 165
mounts?
Joe
Cell - 908-963-8431
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Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Joe,
I'm in the midst of restoration of a 1937 24G...have both a 145 Warner
mount...removed from the fuselage...and a 165 mount...for the conversion.
Maybe you could make a copy.
What is your location?
Richard Hawley
24878 Richmond Hill Rd.
Conifer, CO 80433
303-838-4670
In a message dated 3/21/2011 7:29:34 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
_Joe@Preston-Company.com
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writes:
Hi Guys,
I am looking for information around the Firewall forward for a Fairchild
24.
In particular, I am looking for a drawing for the Warner 165 mount. I have
been in touch with one of your members and we are pursuing getting a
drawing
for a 145, but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has one. I realize
this has probably already been asked and discussed, but as a new member, I
wanted to be sure. I am also interested in finding a drawing for the oil
tank. Anyone have anything related?
Thanks,
Joe
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Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER -- Dave Hadfield
Comment from user: davehadfield53
Hi, I own a Fairchild 24W in Canada, C-FEKC. In fact it's the one
pictured on the website home page, with me in it.
Cheers,
Dave Hadfield
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Re: NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
'I hope people remember that prior to 1938, the 24 fuselages had an engine mount that was an extension of the fuselage tubing. Starting with the 24-39R and 24-39W, they had a removable engine mount, and those fuselages looked the same.
Bob Waldron
Webster, MN
1939 24-K
Bob Waldron
Webster, MN
1939 24-K
'--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, OldOOwl@... wrote:
>
> The 145 mount is completely different...the fuselage tubing extends out
> past the firewall to taper...with a circular tube mount attached. The 165
> mount starts right at the firewall and detaches from the firewall. The
> dishpans are also completely different with the 145 being a tapered cone...the
> 165 is a flatter plate with curved sides.
> Good luck to you. I hope the drawings will be what you need.
> Richard Hawley NC19105
>
>
> In a message dated 3/21/2011 11:08:11 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> Joe@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Richard,
> Thanks for the offer. I am in NJ. I can make that work if needed. I have a
> new 165 mount that someone made up but we are 99% sure it is incorrect. The
> old dish pan and spinning are sitting about 2" too high. If I can get the
> drawings off of the disk, that may be the easiest approach.
>
> Just curious, are there measurable differences between the 145 and the 165
> mounts?
>
>
> Joe
> Cell - 908-963-8431
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: _fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:_fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com) ]
> On Behalf Of _OldOOwl@..._ (mailto:OldOOwl@...)
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:33
> To: _fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com)
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
>
> Joe,
> I'm in the midst of restoration of a 1937 24G...have both a 145 Warner
> mount...removed from the fuselage...and a 165 mount...for the conversion.
> Maybe you could make a copy.
> What is your location?
>
> Richard Hawley
> 24878 Richmond Hill Rd.
> Conifer, CO 80433
> 303-838-4670
>
> In a message dated 3/21/2011 7:29:34 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> _Joe@..._ (mailto:Joe@...)
> writes:
>
> Hi Guys,
> I am looking for information around the Firewall forward for a Fairchild
> 24.
> In particular, I am looking for a drawing for the Warner 165 mount. I have
> been in touch with one of your members and we are pursuing getting a
> drawing
> for a 145, but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has one. I realize
> this has probably already been asked and discussed, but as a new member, I
> wanted to be sure. I am also interested in finding a drawing for the oil
> tank. Anyone have anything related?
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
> _____
>
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> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 18:41
> To: Fairchild List
> Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER -- Dave Hadfield
>
> Comment from user: davehadfield53
>
> Hi, I own a Fairchild 24W in Canada, C-FEKC. In fact it's the one
> pictured on the website home page, with me in it.
> Cheers,
> Dave Hadfield
>
> *** PLEASE NOTE ***
>
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> would otherwise be unavailable to the general membership.
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> Thanks
>
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Re: NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
'How do I determine the name of new members?
Lucky
norbymac20@ymail.com
Lucky
norbymac20@ymail.com
'--- On Tue, 3/22/11, Bob wrote:
From: Bob
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 2:02 PM
I hope people remember that prior to 1938, the 24 fuselages had an engine mount that was an extension of the fuselage tubing. Starting with the 24-39R and 24-39W, they had a removable engine mount, and those fuselages looked the same.
Bob Waldron
Webster, MN
1939 24-K
--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, OldOOwl@... wrote:
>
> The 145 mount is completely different...the fuselage tubing extends out
> past the firewall to taper...with a circular tube mount attached. The 165
> mount starts right at the firewall and detaches from the firewall. The
> dishpans are also completely different with the 145 being a tapered cone...the
> 165 is a flatter plate with curved sides.
> Good luck to you. I hope the drawings will be what you need.
> Richard Hawley NC19105
>
>
> In a message dated 3/21/2011 11:08:11 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> Joe@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Richard,
> Thanks for the offer. I am in NJ. I can make that work if needed. I have a
> new 165 mount that someone made up but we are 99% sure it is incorrect. The
> old dish pan and spinning are sitting about 2" too high. If I can get the
> drawings off of the disk, that may be the easiest approach.
>
> Just curious, are there measurable differences between the 145 and the 165
> mounts?
>
>
> Joe
> Cell - 908-963-8431
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: _fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:_fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com) ]
> On Behalf Of _OldOOwl@..._ (mailto:OldOOwl@...)
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:33
> To: _fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com)
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
>
> Joe,
> I'm in the midst of restoration of a 1937 24G...have both a 145 Warner
> mount...removed from the fuselage...and a 165 mount...for the conversion.
> Maybe you could make a copy.
> What is your location?
>
> Richard Hawley
> 24878 Richmond Hill Rd.
> Conifer, CO 80433
> 303-838-4670
>
> In a message dated 3/21/2011 7:29:34 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> _Joe@..._ (mailto:Joe@...)
> writes:
>
> Hi Guys,
> I am looking for information around the Firewall forward for a Fairchild
> 24.
> In particular, I am looking for a drawing for the Warner 165 mount. I have
> been in touch with one of your members and we are pursuing getting a
> drawing
> for a 145, but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has one. I realize
> this has probably already been asked and discussed, but as a new member, I
> wanted to be sure. I am also interested in finding a drawing for the oil
> tank. Anyone have anything related?
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
> _____
>
> From: __fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:_fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com)
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> On Behalf Of Dan Casali
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 18:41
> To: Fairchild List
> Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER -- Dave Hadfield
>
> Comment from user: davehadfield53
>
> Hi, I own a Fairchild 24W in Canada, C-FEKC. In fact it's the one
> pictured on the website home page, with me in it.
> Cheers,
> Dave Hadfield
>
> *** PLEASE NOTE ***
>
> TO RESPOND TO THE NEW MEMBER, please use the 'reply to group' link at
> the end of this message. Directly replying to this message will reach
> me, not the new member.
>
> The comments above are from the new member(s), not Dan Casali, the
> group moderator. They were made during the new member sign-up and
> would otherwise be unavailable to the general membership.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Casali
> Group Moderator
>
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Re: NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
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'--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Norbert McLuckie wrote:
Hi Norbert,
New Members of this Yahoo Group, have their names posted along with New Members Comments. These are posted by Dan Casali (Our Yahoo Group Mentor), after he approves their membership.
New Members of the Fairchild Club are listed in the Fairchild Flyer by Mike Kelly.
Bob Waldron
Webster, MN
>
> How do I determine the name of new members?
>
> Lucky
> norbymac20@...
>
> --- On Tue, 3/22/11, Bob wrote:
>
>
> From: Bob
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 2:02 PM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> I hope people remember that prior to 1938, the 24 fuselages had an engine mount that was an extension of the fuselage tubing. Starting with the 24-39R and 24-39W, they had a removable engine mount, and those fuselages looked the same.
>
> Bob Waldron
> Webster, MN
> 1939 24-K
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, OldOOwl@ wrote:
> >
> > The 145 mount is completely different...the fuselage tubing extends out
> > past the firewall to taper...with a circular tube mount attached. The 165
> > mount starts right at the firewall and detaches from the firewall. The
> > dishpans are also completely different with the 145 being a tapered cone...the
> > 165 is a flatter plate with curved sides.
> > Good luck to you. I hope the drawings will be what you need.
> > Richard Hawley NC19105
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 3/21/2011 11:08:11 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> > Joe@ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Richard,
> > Thanks for the offer. I am in NJ. I can make that work if needed. I have a
> > new 165 mount that someone made up but we are 99% sure it is incorrect. The
> > old dish pan and spinning are sitting about 2" too high. If I can get the
> > drawings off of the disk, that may be the easiest approach.
> >
> > Just curious, are there measurable differences between the 145 and the 165
> > mounts?
> >
> >
> > Joe
> > Cell - 908-963-8431
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: _fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:_fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com) ]
> > On Behalf Of _OldOOwl@_ (mailto:OldOOwl@)
> > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:33
> > To: _fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com)
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
> >
> > Joe,
> > I'm in the midst of restoration of a 1937 24G...have both a 145 Warner
> > mount...removed from the fuselage...and a 165 mount...for the conversion.
> > Maybe you could make a copy.
> > What is your location?
> >
> > Richard Hawley
> > 24878 Richmond Hill Rd.
> > Conifer, CO 80433
> > 303-838-4670
> >
> > In a message dated 3/21/2011 7:29:34 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> > _Joe@_ (mailto:Joe@)
> > writes:
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> > I am looking for information around the Firewall forward for a Fairchild
> > 24.
> > In particular, I am looking for a drawing for the Warner 165 mount. I have
> > been in touch with one of your members and we are pursuing getting a
> > drawing
> > for a 145, but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has one. I realize
> > this has probably already been asked and discussed, but as a new member, I
> > wanted to be sure. I am also interested in finding a drawing for the oil
> > tank. Anyone have anything related?
> > Thanks,
> > Joe
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: __fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:_fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com)
> > _
> > (mailto:_fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com)
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> > _
> > (mailto:_fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com)
> > ) ]
> > On Behalf Of Dan Casali
> > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 18:41
> > To: Fairchild List
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER -- Dave Hadfield
> >
> > Comment from user: davehadfield53
> >
> > Hi, I own a Fairchild 24W in Canada, C-FEKC. In fact it's the one
> > pictured on the website home page, with me in it.
> > Cheers,
> > Dave Hadfield
> >
> > *** PLEASE NOTE ***
> >
> > TO RESPOND TO THE NEW MEMBER, please use the 'reply to group' link at
> > the end of this message. Directly replying to this message will reach
> > me, not the new member.
> >
> > The comments above are from the new member(s), not Dan Casali, the
> > group moderator. They were made during the new member sign-up and
> > would otherwise be unavailable to the general membership.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dan Casali
> > Group Moderator
> >
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Re: NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
'Richard,
I was wondering if your offer to copy your mount would still be available?
We have pretty much struck out with finding drawings. We are looking for a
165 mount that will bolt to the firewall. The one we have is incorrect and
we need to find out where it is off. The ring appears to be correct, but it
it looks like whoever made the mount made the angles too high. The dish pan
and spinning both sit about 2 inches too high.
What is the history of your mount?
Joe Preston
Preston & Company
65 Old Highway 22
Clinton, NJ 08809
Office - 908-730-7400 x101
Cell - 908-963-8431
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From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of OldOOwl@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:33
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Joe,
I'm in the midst of restoration of a 1937 24G...have both a 145 Warner
mount...removed from the fuselage...and a 165 mount...for the conversion.
Maybe you could make a copy.
What is your location?
Richard Hawley
24878 Richmond Hill Rd.
Conifer, CO 80433
303-838-4670
In a message dated 3/21/2011 7:29:34 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
Joe@Preston-Company.com writes:
Hi Guys,
I am looking for information around the Firewall forward for a Fairchild
24.
In particular, I am looking for a drawing for the Warner 165 mount. I have
been in touch with one of your members and we are pursuing getting a
drawing
for a 145, but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has one. I realize
this has probably already been asked and discussed, but as a new member, I
wanted to be sure. I am also interested in finding a drawing for the oil
tank. Anyone have anything related?
Thanks,
Joe
_____
From: _fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
_
(mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
)
[mailto:_fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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On Behalf Of Dan Casali
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 18:41
To: Fairchild List
Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER -- Dave Hadfield
Comment from user: davehadfield53
Hi, I own a Fairchild 24W in Canada, C-FEKC. In fact it's the one
pictured on the website home page, with me in it.
Cheers,
Dave Hadfield
*** PLEASE NOTE ***
TO RESPOND TO THE NEW MEMBER, please use the 'reply to group' link at
the end of this message. Directly replying to this message will reach
me, not the new member.
The comments above are from the new member(s), not Dan Casali, the
group moderator. They were made during the new member sign-up and
would otherwise be unavailable to the general membership.
Thanks
Dan Casali
Group Moderator
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I was wondering if your offer to copy your mount would still be available?
We have pretty much struck out with finding drawings. We are looking for a
165 mount that will bolt to the firewall. The one we have is incorrect and
we need to find out where it is off. The ring appears to be correct, but it
it looks like whoever made the mount made the angles too high. The dish pan
and spinning both sit about 2 inches too high.
What is the history of your mount?
Joe Preston
Preston & Company
65 Old Highway 22
Clinton, NJ 08809
Office - 908-730-7400 x101
Cell - 908-963-8431
_____
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of OldOOwl@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:33
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER - Warner question.
Joe,
I'm in the midst of restoration of a 1937 24G...have both a 145 Warner
mount...removed from the fuselage...and a 165 mount...for the conversion.
Maybe you could make a copy.
What is your location?
Richard Hawley
24878 Richmond Hill Rd.
Conifer, CO 80433
303-838-4670
In a message dated 3/21/2011 7:29:34 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
Joe@Preston-Company.com writes:
Hi Guys,
I am looking for information around the Firewall forward for a Fairchild
24.
In particular, I am looking for a drawing for the Warner 165 mount. I have
been in touch with one of your members and we are pursuing getting a
drawing
for a 145, but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has one. I realize
this has probably already been asked and discussed, but as a new member, I
wanted to be sure. I am also interested in finding a drawing for the oil
tank. Anyone have anything related?
Thanks,
Joe
_____
From: _fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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(mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
)
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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 18:41
To: Fairchild List
Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER -- Dave Hadfield
Comment from user: davehadfield53
Hi, I own a Fairchild 24W in Canada, C-FEKC. In fact it's the one
pictured on the website home page, with me in it.
Cheers,
Dave Hadfield
*** PLEASE NOTE ***
TO RESPOND TO THE NEW MEMBER, please use the 'reply to group' link at
the end of this message. Directly replying to this message will reach
me, not the new member.
The comments above are from the new member(s), not Dan Casali, the
group moderator. They were made during the new member sign-up and
would otherwise be unavailable to the general membership.
Thanks
Dan Casali
Group Moderator
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