Re: Oil Filters and Alternators

[Bob Webster]

'Sorry for the missing info. The Wolf filter was put on a 1946 F-24R with a 200 Ranger.

As I remember I got a copy of the 337 from Wolf. I can dig mine out if necessary - I think.

Bob

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[Hugh Loewenhardt]

'Thanks Bob, I'm interested in an oil filter setup for a Warner 145 engine at some point in the future. I'll check with with the Wolf filter people to determine if they have a 337 for the Warner application. If not, I,ll see about processing a 337 for the Wolf filter myself at the appropriate time.               Hugh L

--- On Sat, 10/30/10, Bob Webster wrote:


From: Bob Webster
Subject: [fairchildclub] Oil Filters
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 30, 2010, 1:43 AM


 



Sorry for the missing info. The Wolf filter was put on a 1946 F-24R with a 200 Ranger.

As I remember I got a copy of the 337 from Wolf. I can dig mine out if necessary - I think.

Bob

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[Jp Lorie]

'Bob, I am glad to hear that some I A's are willing to do the oil filter
installation with simply a 337.  My I.A. says it requires a field approval.

If you do dig up your 337, I will be glad to obtain a copy.
 JP.Lorie




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From: Bob Webster
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 9:43:17 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Oil Filters

 
Sorry for the missing info. The Wolf filter was put on a 1946 F-24R with a 200
Ranger.

As I remember I got a copy of the 337 from Wolf. I can dig mine out if necessary
- I think.

Bob

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[Bob]

'JP. Lorie,

A Field Approval is written on an FAA Form Number 337. A 337 and a Field Approval are two different names for the same thing. I have a Field Approval (FAA form number 337) that approves the ADC Spin On Oil Filter for my Ranger Powered Fairchild 24. I am very happy with the ADC Spin On Oil Filter.

The STC (Suplemental Type Certificate) that is being discussed, is for a different ADC Oil Filter, and includes a Chip Detector and a Chip Detector Warning Light. There may have been some discussions between ADC and the FAA regarding the proper place to install the warning Light. The way that these aircraft have been modified over the past sixty years, it would be difficult to describe an exact location for the warning light.

Bob Waldron
1938 Fairchild 24K
Webster, MN U.S.A.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Jp Lorie wrote:
>
> Bob, I am glad to hear that some I A's are willing to do the oil filter
> installation with simply a 337.  My I.A. says it requires a field approval.
>
> If you do dig up your 337, I will be glad to obtain a copy.
>  JP.Lorie
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>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Webster
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 9:43:17 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Oil Filters
>
>  
> Sorry for the missing info. The Wolf filter was put on a 1946 F-24R with a 200
> Ranger.
>
> As I remember I got a copy of the 337 from Wolf. I can dig mine out if necessary
> - I think.
>
> Bob
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[Jim]

'Hi guys
A field approval will have FAA approval stamp and signature in block 3
And the remote oil filter will require a field approval in this case regardless of engines. A ICA (instructions for continued airworthiness) will need to be submitted as well.
If the oil pressure switch is added after the oil filter any A&P can do the installation, no field approval required.

Jim
F24R46-108

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[Jp Lorie]

'Bob, 
    Thank you for the information, 
 I don't like field approvals, I had one done for the Jasco Alternator I
installed, the IA had to make three trips to the local FAA to try and convince
someone to do it. My IA says that people at the FAA have to do a field
inspection on their own time and at their own risk these days. The approval cost
me $1,500. is there a cost effective way to get a field approval for an Oil
filter these days?  If so I'd like to know in case the STC does not go through.

Thanks
 JP.Lorie
Florida




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From: Bob
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 3:56:20 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Oil Filters

 
JP. Lorie,

A Field Approval is written on an FAA Form Number 337. A 337 and a Field
Approval are two different names for the same thing. I have a Field Approval
(FAA form number 337) that approves the ADC Spin On Oil Filter for my Ranger
Powered Fairchild 24. I am very happy with the ADC Spin On Oil Filter.

The STC (Suplemental Type Certificate) that is being discussed, is for a
different ADC Oil Filter, and includes a Chip Detector and a Chip Detector
Warning Light. There may have been some discussions between ADC and the FAA
regarding the proper place to install the warning Light. The way that these
aircraft have been modified over the past sixty years, it would be difficult to
describe an exact location for the warning light.

Bob Waldron
1938 Fairchild 24K
Webster, MN U.S.A.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Jp Lorie wrote:
>
> Bob, I am glad to hear that some I A's are willing to do the oil filter
> installation with simply a 337.  My I.A. says it requires a field
approval.
>
> If you do dig up your 337, I will be glad to obtain a copy.
>  JP.Lorie
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Webster
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 9:43:17 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Oil Filters
>
>  
> Sorry for the missing info. The Wolf filter was put on a 1946 F-24R with a 200

> Ranger.
>
> As I remember I got a copy of the 337 from Wolf. I can dig mine out if
>necessary
>
> - I think.
>
> Bob
>
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[Jim]

'I did one earlier this year for one on a ranger powered F24 and the only cost was the price of the adapter from airwolf. I did field approvals for two Cleveland brake and master cylinders this year, a few other field approvals other than Fairchild airplanes at no cost other than labor and parts.
If you do your own research and write your own ICA you can save the labor cost of the IA because that is generally more expense than the installation itself.
Also the paper work is suppose to be done and approved by the FAA before the installation is begun. Don't be shy, talk to your FSDO if your having problems.
If you would like I call me after 4 central time.

319-533-7890
Jim

On Nov 2, 2010, at 7:57 AM, Jp Lorie wrote:

> Bob,
> Thank you for the information,
> I don't like field approvals, I had one done for the Jasco Alternator I
> installed, the IA had to make three trips to the local FAA to try and convince
> someone to do it. My IA says that people at the FAA have to do a field
> inspection on their own time and at their own risk these days. The approval cost
> me $1,500. is there a cost effective way to get a field approval for an Oil
> filter these days? If so I'd like to know in case the STC does not go through.
>
> Thanks
> JP.Lorie
> Florida
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 3:56:20 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Oil Filters
>
>
> JP. Lorie,
>
> A Field Approval is written on an FAA Form Number 337. A 337 and a Field
> Approval are two different names for the same thing. I have a Field Approval
> (FAA form number 337) that approves the ADC Spin On Oil Filter for my Ranger
> Powered Fairchild 24. I am very happy with the ADC Spin On Oil Filter.
>
> The STC (Suplemental Type Certificate) that is being discussed, is for a
> different ADC Oil Filter, and includes a Chip Detector and a Chip Detector
> Warning Light. There may have been some discussions between ADC and the FAA
> regarding the proper place to install the warning Light. The way that these
> aircraft have been modified over the past sixty years, it would be difficult to
> describe an exact location for the warning light.
>
> Bob Waldron
> 1938 Fairchild 24K
> Webster, MN U.S.A.
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Jp Lorie wrote:
> >
> > Bob, I am glad to hear that some I A's are willing to do the oil filter
> > installation with simply a 337. My I.A. says it requires a field
> approval.
> >
> > If you do dig up your 337, I will be glad to obtain a copy.
> > Â JP.Lorie
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> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bob Webster
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 9:43:17 PM
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Oil Filters
> >
> > Â
> > Sorry for the missing info. The Wolf filter was put on a 1946 F-24R with a 200
>
> > Ranger.
> >
> > As I remember I got a copy of the 337 from Wolf. I can dig mine out if
> >necessary
> >
> > - I think.
> >
> > Bob
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[Jp Lorie]

'Jim, 
 I will call you as I obviously need more info.
As to all work and installations on my f24, they were done by me but in my
ignorance I did the Jasco and oil filter installations first and then showed the
IA who  proceeded to obtain approval for the alternator.

 JP.Lorie




________________________________
From: Jim
To: "fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 10:33:04 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: Oil Filters

 
I did one earlier this year for one on a ranger powered F24 and the only cost
was the price of the adapter from airwolf. I did field approvals for two
Cleveland brake and master cylinders this year, a few other field approvals
other than Fairchild airplanes at no cost other than labor and parts.
If you do your own research and write your own ICA you can save the labor cost
of the IA because that is generally more expense than the installation itself.
Also the paper work is suppose to be done and approved by the FAA before the
installation is begun. Don't be shy, talk to your FSDO if your having problems.
If you would like I call me after 4 central time.

319-533-7890
Jim

On Nov 2, 2010, at 7:57 AM, Jp Lorie wrote:

> Bob,
> Thank you for the information,
> I don't like field approvals, I had one done for the Jasco Alternator I
> installed, the IA had to make three trips to the local FAA to try and convince

> someone to do it. My IA says that people at the FAA have to do a field
> inspection on their own time and at their own risk these days. The approval
>cost
>
> me $1,500. is there a cost effective way to get a field approval for an Oil
> filter these days? If so I'd like to know in case the STC does not go through.
>
> Thanks
> JP.Lorie
> Florida
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 3:56:20 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Oil Filters
>
>
> JP. Lorie,
>
> A Field Approval is written on an FAA Form Number 337. A 337 and a Field
> Approval are two different names for the same thing. I have a Field Approval
> (FAA form number 337) that approves the ADC Spin On Oil Filter for my Ranger
> Powered Fairchild 24. I am very happy with the ADC Spin On Oil Filter.
>
> The STC (Suplemental Type Certificate) that is being discussed, is for a
> different ADC Oil Filter, and includes a Chip Detector and a Chip Detector
> Warning Light. There may have been some discussions between ADC and the FAA
> regarding the proper place to install the warning Light. The way that these
> aircraft have been modified over the past sixty years, it would be difficult to
>
> describe an exact location for the warning light.
>
> Bob Waldron
> 1938 Fairchild 24K
> Webster, MN U.S.A.
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Jp Lorie wrote:
> >
> > Bob, I am glad to hear that some I A's are willing to do the oil filter
> > installation with simply a 337. My I.A. says it requires a field
> approval.
> >
> > If you do dig up your 337, I will be glad to obtain a copy.
> > Â JP.Lorie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bob Webster
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 9:43:17 PM
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Oil Filters
> >
> > Â
> > Sorry for the missing info. The Wolf filter was put on a 1946 F-24R with a
>200
>
>
> > Ranger.
> >
> > As I remember I got a copy of the 337 from Wolf. I can dig mine out if
> >necessary
> >
> > - I think.
> >
> > Bob
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