Re: FCC Prohibition on Sale/Use of 121.5 ELTs

bradleybormuth · Post by **bradleybormuth** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:51 am

'For those of you that haven't heard yet:

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) June 15 released the notice
of a rule prohibiting the "certification, manufacture, importation,
sale, or continued use of 121.5 MHz ELTs." The rule would suddenly
make aircraft that are in full compliance with the federal aviation
regulations in violation of federal communications law.

14 CFR Part 91.207
currently requires
aircraft to carry a fixed ELT, but does not specify either 121.5 or 406
MHz. The FCC's change to 47 CFR Part 87

would outlaw the use of the former?effectively forcing general
aviation aircraft owners to buy the 406 MHz ELT. The rule would go into
effect 60 days after publication in the Federal Register. AOPA is
aggressively pursuing all options to have the FCC and FAA delay and
re-evaluate the rule, highlighting the economic and operational impact
to the more than 220,000 aircraft in the GA fleet, most of whom still
carry the 121.5 MHz ELTs.

http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2010/100621elt.html

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/FCCProposesBanOn1215ELTs_Updated_20\
2771-1.html

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-103A1.pdf

As a side note, the current 406 MHz ELTs are dual band meaning they
transmit on 121.5 MHz as well. The current wording would make them
illegal to use as well. I highly expect the wording to be changed but
if the FCC has their hearts set on eliminating 121.5 ELTs, we could see
a requirement to switch much sooner than the previously proposed 2020
deadline.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]'

Tom_Downey · Post by **Tom_Downey** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:36 am

'Let's not panic over this, let's wait to see what the final out come is, we know there are not enough 406 ELT's on the shelf to equip all the aircraft in the US. they must bend this to fit the real world.

My advice is to comply with 91.207, by inspecting the 121.5 ELTs and re-installing them, and turn them off, 91.207 does not say the unit must be turned on, it says it must be installed, and operable.

and many agencies are pushing for the PLB's to be added to the allowable units.

Tom Downey A&P-IA

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bradleybormuth"
wrote:
>
> For those of you that haven't heard yet:
>
> The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) June 15 released the notice
> of a rule prohibiting the "certification, manufacture, importation,
> sale, or continued use of 121.5 MHz ELTs." The rule would suddenly
> make aircraft that are in full compliance with the federal aviation
> regulations in violation of federal communications law.

'

sr14572@yahoo.com · Post by **sr14572@yahoo.com** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:38 am

'thats what i thought . i read the regs too. fucking asshole sychophants. sychophants are blood sucking cock suckers.

________________________________
From: Tom_Downey
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 11:36:05 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: FCC Prohibition on Sale/Use of 121.5 ELTs

Let's not panic over this, let's wait to see what the final out come is, we know there are not enough 406 ELT's on the shelf to equip all the aircraft in the US. they must bend this to fit the real world.

My advice is to comply with 91.207, by inspecting the 121.5 ELTs and re-installing them, and turn them off, 91.207 does not say the unit must be turned on, it says it must be installed, and operable.

and many agencies are pushing for the PLB's to be added to the allowable units.

Tom Downey A&P-IA

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bradleybormuth"
wrote:
>
> For those of you that haven't heard yet:
>
> The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) June 15 released the notice
> of a rule prohibiting the "certification, manufacture, importation,
> sale, or continued use of 121.5 MHz ELTs." The rule would suddenly
> make aircraft that are in full compliance with the federal aviation
> regulations in violation of federal communications law.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

'

sr14572@yahoo.com · Post by **sr14572@yahoo.com** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:39 am

'sorry about that last email, i thought it was to my friend dan

________________________________
From: "sr14572@yahoo.com"
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 11:38:30 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: FCC Prohibition on Sale/Use of 121.5 ELTs

thats what i thought . i read the regs too. fucking asshole sychophants. sychophants are blood sucking cock suckers.

________________________________
From: Tom_Downey
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 11:36:05 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: FCC Prohibition on Sale/Use of 121.5 ELTs

Let's not panic over this, let's wait to see what the final out come is, we know there are not enough 406 ELT's on the shelf to equip all the aircraft in the US. they must bend this to fit the real world.

My advice is to comply with 91.207, by inspecting the 121.5 ELTs and re-installing them, and turn them off, 91.207 does not say the unit must be turned on, it says it must be installed, and operable.

and many agencies are pushing for the PLB's to be added to the allowable units.

Tom Downey A&P-IA

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bradleybormuth"
wrote:
>
> For those of you that haven't heard yet:
>
> The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) June 15 released the notice
> of a rule prohibiting the "certification, manufacture, importation,
> sale, or continued use of 121.5 MHz ELTs." The rule would suddenly
> make aircraft that are in full compliance with the federal aviation
> regulations in violation of federal communications law.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

'

sr14572@yahoo.com · Post by **sr14572@yahoo.com** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:42 am

'Again, I profusely apologize for what i just sent to all of you in error. I will be more careful in the future.

________________________________
From: Tom_Downey
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 11:36:05 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: FCC Prohibition on Sale/Use of 121.5 ELTs

Let's not panic over this, let's wait to see what the final out come is, we know there are not enough 406 ELT's on the shelf to equip all the aircraft in the US. they must bend this to fit the real world.

My advice is to comply with 91.207, by inspecting the 121.5 ELTs and re-installing them, and turn them off, 91.207 does not say the unit must be turned on, it says it must be installed, and operable.

and many agencies are pushing for the PLB's to be added to the allowable units.

Tom Downey A&P-IA

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bradleybormuth"
wrote:
>
> For those of you that haven't heard yet:
>
> The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) June 15 released the notice
> of a rule prohibiting the "certification, manufacture, importation,
> sale, or continued use of 121.5 MHz ELTs." The rule would suddenly
> make aircraft that are in full compliance with the federal aviation
> regulations in violation of federal communications law.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

'

jhed9253@aol.com · Post by **jhed9253@aol.com** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:40 pm

'real nice

-----Original Message-----
From: sr14572@yahoo.com
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:38 am
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: FCC Prohibition on Sale/Use of 121.5 ELTs

thats what i thought . i read the regs too. fucking asshole sychophants. sychophants are blood sucking cock suckers.

________________________________
From: Tom_Downey
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 11:36:05 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: FCC Prohibition on Sale/Use of 121.5 ELTs

Let's not panic over this, let's wait to see what the final out come is, we know there are not enough 406 ELT's on the shelf to equip all the aircraft in the US. they must bend this to fit the real world.

My advice is to comply with 91.207, by inspecting the 121.5 ELTs and re-installing them, and turn them off, 91.207 does not say the unit must be turned on, it says it must be installed, and operable.

and many agencies are pushing for the PLB's to be added to the allowable units.

Tom Downey A&P-IA

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bradleybormuth"
wrote:
>
> For those of you that haven't heard yet:
>
> The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) June 15 released the notice
> of a rule prohibiting the "certification, manufacture, importation,
> sale, or continued use of 121.5 MHz ELTs." The rule would suddenly
> make aircraft that are in full compliance with the federal aviation
> regulations in violation of federal communications law.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

'

Nunnelly Golf · Post by **Nunnelly Golf** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:52 pm

'INTELLIGENT

----- Original Message -----
From: jhed9253@aol.com
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: FCC Prohibition on Sale/Use of 121.5 ELTs

real nice

-----Original Message-----
From: sr14572@yahoo.com
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 8:38 am
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: FCC Prohibition on Sale/Use of 121.5 ELTs

thats what i thought . i read the regs too. fucking asshole sychophants. sychophants are blood sucking cock suckers.

________________________________
From: Tom_Downey
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 11:36:05 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: FCC Prohibition on Sale/Use of 121.5 ELTs

Let's not panic over this, let's wait to see what the final out come is, we know there are not enough 406 ELT's on the shelf to equip all the aircraft in the US. they must bend this to fit the real world.

My advice is to comply with 91.207, by inspecting the 121.5 ELTs and re-installing them, and turn them off, 91.207 does not say the unit must be turned on, it says it must be installed, and operable.

and many agencies are pushing for the PLB's to be added to the allowable units.

Tom Downey A&P-IA

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bradleybormuth"
wrote:
>
> For those of you that haven't heard yet:
>
> The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) June 15 released the notice
> of a rule prohibiting the "certification, manufacture, importation,
> sale, or continued use of 121.5 MHz ELTs." The rule would suddenly
> make aircraft that are in full compliance with the federal aviation
> regulations in violation of federal communications law.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

'

Buell Powell · Post by **Buell Powell** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:45 am

'guessing most have already gotten this but thought if not then it might be useful.

On Jun 24, 2010, at 4:49 AM, bradleybormuth wrote:

> For those of you that haven't heard yet:
>
> The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) June 15 released the notice
> of a rule prohibiting the "certification, manufacture, importation,
> sale, or continued use of 121.5 MHz ELTs." The rule would suddenly
> make aircraft that are in full compliance with the federal aviation
> regulations in violation of federal communications law.
>
> 14 CFR Part 91.207
> &node=14:2.0.1.3.10&idno=14#14:2.0.1.3.10.3.7.4> currently requires
> aircraft to carry a fixed ELT, but does not specify either 121.5 or 406
> MHz. The FCC's change to 47 CFR Part 87
>
> would outlaw the use of the former?effectively forcing general
> aviation aircraft owners to buy the 406 MHz ELT. The rule would go into
> effect 60 days after publication in the Federal Register. AOPA is
> aggressively pursuing all options to have the FCC and FAA delay and
> re-evaluate the rule, highlighting the economic and operational impact
> to the more than 220,000 aircraft in the GA fleet, most of whom still
> carry the 121.5 MHz ELTs.
>
> http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2010/100621elt.html
>
>
> http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/FCCProposesBanOn1215ELTs_Updated_20\
> 2771-1.html
> 02771-1.html>
>
> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-103A1.pdf
>
>
> As a side note, the current 406 MHz ELTs are dual band meaning they
> transmit on 121.5 MHz as well. The current wording would make them
> illegal to use as well. I highly expect the wording to be changed but
> if the FCC has their hearts set on eliminating 121.5 ELTs, we could see
> a requirement to switch much sooner than the previously proposed 2020
> deadline.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

'

Buell Powell · Post by **Buell Powell** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:58 am

'Well, found that the yahoo group setting is set not to include attachments-anyway there is an article from AOPA about the new ELT law -if anyone wants I would be glad to send a link to it--may be someone with better computer skills can send it to the yahoo group?

On Jun 25, 2010, at 10:45 AM, BUELL POWELL wrote:

> guessing most have already gotten this but thought if not then it might be useful.
> On Jun 24, 2010, at 4:49 AM, bradleybormuth wrote:
>
>> For those of you that haven't heard yet:
>>
>> The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) June 15 released the notice
>> of a rule prohibiting the "certification, manufacture, importation,
>> sale, or continued use of 121.5 MHz ELTs." The rule would suddenly
>> make aircraft that are in full compliance with the federal aviation
>> regulations in violation of federal communications law.
>>
>> 14 CFR Part 91.207
>> > &node=14:2.0.1.3.10&idno=14#14:2.0.1.3.10.3.7.4> currently requires
>> aircraft to carry a fixed ELT, but does not specify either 121.5 or 406
>> MHz. The FCC's change to 47 CFR Part 87
>>
>> would outlaw the use of the former˜effectively forcing general
>> aviation aircraft owners to buy the 406 MHz ELT. The rule would go into
>> effect 60 days after publication in the Federal Register. AOPA is
>> aggressively pursuing all options to have the FCC and FAA delay and
>> re-evaluate the rule, highlighting the economic and operational impact
>> to the more than 220,000 aircraft in the GA fleet, most of whom still
>> carry the 121.5 MHz ELTs.
>>
>> http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2010/100621elt.html
>>
>>
>> http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/FCCProposesBanOn1215ELTs_Updated_20\
>> 2771-1.html
>> > 02771-1.html>
>>
>> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-103A1.pdf
>>
>>
>> As a side note, the current 406 MHz ELTs are dual band meaning they
>> transmit on 121.5 MHz as well. The current wording would make them
>> illegal to use as well. I highly expect the wording to be changed but
>> if the FCC has their hearts set on eliminating 121.5 ELTs, we could see
>> a requirement to switch much sooner than the previously proposed 2020
>> deadline.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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