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fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" wrote:
>
> I don't think I'm that old (50) and know that "Lucky Strikes Make Fine Tobacco", and no I don't smoke. SNAFU seems to fit more of the theme for the person having frustration finding a 24 that they feel comfortable with however. lol
>
> I too have a "daily flier" that needs some improvement in areas. I've owned the aircraft for 2 years and have recently removed the seats and floor boards to be redone. The fabric punch tests good, but has several areas of ring worm, some of the bulkhead frames and formers need to be replaced because of minor imperfections associated with age and use, and I plan to recover later this year. I have been in contact with the two previous owners and what I believe is a good relationship with both. I benefit hearing more details of her past and know what has been done and how it was treated, and they know that I have a passion for this beautiful aircraft, and it's history.
>
> What I think attracts most of us to these fine works of art, is the nostalgia that's related to these fine flying machines, and their gracefull aging. I for one, find owning and maintaining a classic a labor of love. One of the benefits we have is the ability to connect and share best practices (through electronic means) to ensure we keep these jewels of the sky flying safely and as originally as possible. That's why I asked this group recently about shoulder harness installation (where, how, types, etc) to gather as much information as possible. And thanks to all that provided feedback.
>
> Just as in anything else, you have to be careful when buying anything as it can sometimes be very misrepresented. I recently bought some wheel pants for my 24 that I felt were misrepresented and paid way too much for given the condition they were in. I'm sure the seller felt differently.
>
> Continue to be cautious and please don't group us all in one category when it comes to the folks that own and love the Fairchild 24. I'm sure you will find what you are looking for and that you will care for her very well while you have the priviledge to be her caretaker.
>
> Good luck in your search. Don't give up.
>
> Keep the Classics and Antiques flying!
>
> Steve
> N81362
>
> --- In
fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Threadgill" wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately I know what it means, but I gave them up many many year ago.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> > Jack Threadgill
> >
> > 1602 Brook Hollow Dr
> >
> > Bryan, TX 77802
> >
> > 979-779-7155
> >
> > threadgl@
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of OldOOwl@
> > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:15 AM
> > To:
fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: For MF information and frustration
> > reduction
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All of this discussion is of keen interest to me as I am in the midst of
> > restoration of NC19105. I have not added it up, but think I could easily
> > have purchased more than one flying F24G with the funds I have spent....and
> > still have a long way to go. My professional restorer recently decided to
> > quit that line of work and I now have the ultimate puzzle to be solved.
> > One item....the wood formers which shape the fuselage upper and lower
> > portions....seems to be a soft wood attached to plywood bulkheads....and
> > there is
> > nothing straight about them. I will have a "do-over" there. What kind of
> > wood is correct?
> > This airplane was Dad's since 1953. With a personal family history, I
> > will do whatever it takes to finish it properly and it will not be for sale
> > until I am turning to dust.
> > L-S-M-F-T....If you know what that means....you are REALLY OLD!
> > Richard Hawley
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/30/2010 10:37:54 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> > DJetMiller@aol. com writes:
> >
> > David. The Warner was a very good deal indeed! I remain indebted to you
> > but take exception in that that good deal was part of the siren song that
> > has
> > lead me to ruin in this labor of love that is NC22036. Just kidding, of
> > course. And, yes Tom, in my estimation, you've got the blue light special
> > rotating above your 24. Uh-oh, am I showing my age making K-Mart, in-store
> > deep discount, sales references?
> >
> > David J. Miller
> > "Smilin' Jack"
> > CAP Base 3
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DAVID STROUD > (mailto:dstroud@xplornet. com) >
> > To: _fairchildclub@fairchildclufai_ (mailto:fairchildclub@
> > yahoogroups.com)
> > Sent: Sun, Jan 31, 2010 12:10 am
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: For MF information and frustration
> > reduction
> >
> > Oh...com'on now, David....you got a hell of a good deal on my motor and
> > prop, eh ? Someone
> > else thinks the engine is worth about $50 K zero time.
> >
> > David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> > Christavia C-FDWS
> > Fairchild 51 replica
> > under construction C-FYXV
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: _DJetMiller@ aol.DJe_
> > (mailto:DJetMiller@aol. com)
> > To: _fairchildclub@fairchildclufai_ (mailto:fairchildclub@
> > yahoogroups.com)
> >
> > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: For MF information and frustration
> > reduction
> >
> > Many thanks for the posts on this subject. It's a critical topic that
> > often goes unexamined. And for the first time in six years, I consider this
> > to
> > be a validation of sorts for my having used a professional restoration
> > facility (and the professional sums of money required) in the ongoing
> > rebuild
> > of my '40 F24W.
> >
> > David J. Miller
> > "Smilin' Jack"
> > CAP Base 3
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DAVID STROUD > (mailto:dstroud@xplornet. com) >
> > To: _fairchildclub@fairchildclufai_ (mailto:fairchildclub@
> > yahoogroups.com)
> > Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2010 9:18 pm
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: For MF information and frustration
> > reduction
> >
> > The glue wasn't up to modern standards either. I bought a 24 in need of
> > complete rebuilt
> > about four years ago, but sold the project to continue with my 51 project.
> > What surprised me is
> > when I got a grip on the horizontal stab and tried to pull the plywood off
> > with my bare hands....it
> > came apart like it was glued with that stuff you used to make candy apples
> > with at Halloween.
> > Brittle as hell and no strength. It scares me to think about how many 24's
> > or otherwise might
> > still be flying with nice looking skins held on by next to nothing.
> >
> > David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> > Christavia C-FDWS
> > Fairchild 51 replica
> > under construction C-FYXV
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jack Threadgill
> > To: _fairchildclub@fairchildclufai_ (mailto:fairchildclub@
> > yahoogroups.com)
> >
> > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:33 PM
> > Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Re: For MF information and frustration
> > reduction
> >
> > Airplanes weren't all that good when they were new back before the 40's. My
> > Dad learned to fly in 1929. He took a professional 200 hr course at Meacham
> > Field at Fort Worth in order to rcv his commercial lic. During this 200 hrs
> > he averaged a force landing due to engine failure every 10 hrs. Twenty of
> > them. He use to tell me he got very uncomfortable when he was not flying
> > over an open pasture.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > Jack Threadgill
> >
> > 1602 Brook Hollow Dr
> >
> > Bryan, TX 77802
> >
> > 979-779-7155
> >
> > _threadgl@suddenlinkthre_ (mailto:threadgl@suddenlink
> > .net)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: _fairchildclub@fairchildclufai_
> > (mailto:fairchildclub@
> > yahoogroups.com) [mailto:_fairchildclub@fairchildclufai_
> > (mailto:fairchildclub@
> > yahoogroups.com) ]
> > On Behalf Of Airy Millet
> > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:19 PM
> > To: fairchildlist
> > Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Re: For MF information and frustration
> > reduction
> >
> > Buying an old aircraft, is buying an old aircraft! Not a brand new one.
> >
> > If people don't feel safe to buy something, don't buy it! It's simple.
> >
> > Even a brand new restored vintage aircraft can suffer problems such as old
> > aircraft! Just because they are original, not modified, flying with their
> > "flying qualities" of the 20's, the 30's, the 40's or post-WWII flying
> > abilities...abilities...airfoil profil
> >
> > Because machines, as much as human are made with material, anything can
> > happen anytime with material!!
> >
> > So, when you fly a F24, you should know you are flying a plane designed in
> > the roaring 30's, designed according to knowledge of that era, with engines
> > of that decade, and designed by people (engineers) who learn to draw, learn
> > to fly in the 10's or 20's...(in the best case).
> >
> > Stearable-unlockablStearable-unlockable tailwheel on a F24 is somethi
> > other planes of that decades were still having solid friction tailpads
> > instead of a wheel!! ...but those wheel are known for some shimmy... when
> > things begins to wear.
> >
> > Flying at 100mph with a 200HP engine at 1900rpm is not something specialy
> > astonishing.astonishing...many did better since years, even with a
> > prop!
> >
> > So, if you don't fall in love with "ONE" particular plane, don't buy her!
> >
> > If you fall in love, you 'll probably forget anything around her, even some
> > small perfectible details to be fixed!
> >
> > otherwise?
> >
> > Buy a bunch of parts, or a wrecked plane, and rebuild her as well as you
> > want her to be!
> >
> > Airy
> >
> > (who like to learn back how to fly those primitive planes....for instance
> > the oldest I flew was a 1936 biplane type).
> >
> > To: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups.
> > From: mcclurebill@ rocketmail.com
> > Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:48:49 +0000
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: For MF information and frustration reduction
> >
> > A lot of replies, so why don't I throw in my two cents worth?
> > (...)
> >
> > etc...
> >
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