Re: F-24 G brakes

Tom Downey · Post by **Tom Downey** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:44 am

'I'm finding the preformance of my mechanical brakes to be a lot less than I would like. What are my options? I am a A&P-IA that can run the 337's to gain field approval if required.

Who has done what in the past?'

Jamie Treat · Post by **Jamie Treat** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:23 pm

'Tom,

See attached 337s.

Give me a call on the cell, better way of doing Clevelands than we have done in the past. Adopted efforts of the WACO club. Slick setup with Clevelands.

Jamie

Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair, LLC
IAC 5, Chapter President
http://iac5.org
Kelly Airpark (CO15) http://www.kellyairpark.com
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106

New Email: JamieTreat@q.com
Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
Cell 303-304-7937

Quote of the Month: When asked by someone how much money flying takes: Why, all of it! - Gordon Baxter

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Downey
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 9:44 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] F-24 G brakes

I'm finding the preformance of my mechanical brakes to be a lot less than I would like. What are my options? I am a A&P-IA that can run the 337's to gain field approval if required.

Who has done what in the past?

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David Stroud · Post by **David Stroud** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:31 pm

'Jamie Treat would know the proper paper trail required. A complete set of C 310
wheels, brakes w/ new tires and tubes went on ebay two weeks ago for $500.

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Downey
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:44 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] F-24 G brakes

I'm finding the preformance of my mechanical brakes to be a lot less than I would like. What are my options? I am a A&P-IA that can run the 337's to gain field approval if required.

Who has done what in the past?

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Tom Downey · Post by **Tom Downey** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:38 pm

'Paper trail no problems, we have seen the 310 system, and believe it is as ugly as road kill.

There must be a better way.

Tom Downey A&P-IA

"DAVID STROUD" wrote:

>
> Jamie Treat would know the proper paper trail required. A complete set of C 310
> wheels, brakes w/ new tires and tubes went on ebay two weeks ago for $500.
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada

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David Stroud · Post by **David Stroud** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:25 pm

'Excellent, Jamie. Could you share some details for the benefit of the list ?

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV

----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie Treat
To: Tom Downey
Cc: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] F-24 G brakes

Tom,

See attached 337s.

Give me a call on the cell, better way of doing Clevelands than we have done in the past. Adopted efforts of the WACO club. Slick setup with Clevelands.

Jamie

Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair, LLC
IAC 5, Chapter President
http://iac5.org
Kelly Airpark (CO15) http://www.kellyairpark.com
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106

New Email: JamieTreat@q.com
Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
Cell 303-304-7937

Quote of the Month: When asked by someone how much money flying takes: Why, all of it! - Gordon Baxter

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Downey
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 9:44 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] F-24 G brakes

I'm finding the preformance of my mechanical brakes to be a lot less than I would like. What are my options? I am a A&P-IA that can run the 337's to gain field approval if required.

Who has done what in the past?

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WILLIAM MORGAN · Post by **WILLIAM MORGAN** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:15 am

'Tom,
I did a total rebuild of the Hayes brakes about a year ago. New lines, tubes, rebuild brake cylinders etc.
They work fine for me on my f-24, not as positive as clevelands, but enough I feel very comfortable.
Bill Morgan

--- On Sat, 6/6/09, Tom Downey wrote:

From: Tom Downey
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: F-24 G brakes
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 8:37 PM

Paper trail no problems, we have seen the 310 system, and believe it is as ugly as road kill.

There must be a better way.

Tom Downey A&P-IA

"DAVID STROUD" wrote:

>

> Jamie Treat would know the proper paper trail required. A complete set of C 310

> wheels, brakes w/ new tires and tubes went on ebay two weeks ago for $500.

>

> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada

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Tom Downey · Post by **Tom Downey** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:55 am

'My brakes are the mechanical ones, no hydraulic cylinders, just cable pulling the cam activated shoes

> Tom,
> I did a total rebuild of the Hayes brakes about a year ago. New lines, tubes, rebuild brake cylinders etc.
> They work fine for me on my f-24, not as positive as clevelands, but enough I feel very comfortable.
> Bill Morgan

'

Jamie Treat · Post by **Jamie Treat** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:44 pm

'David,

I lieu of the complete Cessna 310 setup. I'm using Cessna 310 wheels, with 210 discs and 210 brakes. Two puck vs three puck. Also the disc fit inside the wheel after minor machine work to sit flush. Drill and tap 4 1/4 bolt holes and secure disc to wheel half. The 210 brakes sit inside the wheel, flush to the outside. Clean install, not to much brake. All covers up with wheel fenders. Slick set up. I have pics of install on WACO YKC. One time field FAA 337 form.

Jamie

Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair, LLC
IAC 5, Chapter President
http://iac5.org
Kelly Airpark (CO15) http://www.kellyairpark.com
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106

New Email: JamieTreat@q.com
Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
Cell 303-304-7937

Quote of the Month: When asked by someone how much money flying takes: Why, all of it! - Gordon Baxter

----- Original Message -----
From: DAVID STROUD
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] F-24 G brakes

Excellent, Jamie. Could you share some details for the benefit of the list ?

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV

----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie Treat
To: Tom Downey
Cc: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] F-24 G brakes

Tom,

See attached 337s.

Give me a call on the cell, better way of doing Clevelands than we have done in the past. Adopted efforts of the WACO club. Slick setup with Clevelands.

Jamie

Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair, LLC
IAC 5, Chapter President
http://iac5.org
Kelly Airpark (CO15) http://www.kellyairpark.com
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106

New Email: JamieTreat@q.com
Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
Cell 303-304-7937

Quote of the Month: When asked by someone how much money flying takes: Why, all of it! - Gordon Baxter

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Downey
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 9:44 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] F-24 G brakes

I'm finding the preformance of my mechanical brakes to be a lot less than I would like. What are my options? I am a A&P-IA that can run the 337's to gain field approval if required.

Who has done what in the past?

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Patricia Banks · Post by **Patricia Banks** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:19 pm

'Hi Jamie ..

Would be very interested in seing the photos and copies of the 337s for your brake install. How were the caliper mounts fabricated and where do they attach? I have expander tubes and when finances permit would like to upgrade to something a little easier to maintain. The full 310 conversion seemed like overkill to me. I like the idea of the 210 calipers and discs inside the wheel.

Regards,

Matt
1946 F24W46
N4263S

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Jamie Treat wrote:

From: Jamie Treat
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] F-24 G brakes
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 2:44 PM

David,

I lieu of the complete Cessna 310 setup. I'm using Cessna 310 wheels, with 210 discs and 210 brakes. Two puck vs three puck. Also the disc fit inside the wheel after minor machine work to sit flush. Drill and tap 4 1/4 bolt holes and secure disc to wheel half. The 210 brakes sit inside the wheel, flush to the outside. Clean install, not to much brake. All covers up with wheel fenders. Slick set up. I have pics of install on WACO YKC. One time field FAA 337 form.

Jamie

Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair, LLC
IAC 5, Chapter President
http://iac5.org
Kelly Airpark (CO15) http://www.kellyairpark.com
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106

New Email: JamieTreat@q.com
Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
Cell 303-304-7937

Quote of the Month: When asked by someone how much money flying takes: Why, all of it! - Gordon Baxter

----- Original Message -----
From: DAVID STROUD
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] F-24 G brakes

Excellent, Jamie. Could you share some details for the benefit of the list ?

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV

----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie Treat
To: Tom Downey
Cc: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] F-24 G brakes

Tom,

See attached 337s.

Give me a call on the cell, better way of doing Clevelands than we have done in the past. Adopted efforts of the WACO club. Slick setup with Clevelands.

Jamie

Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair, LLC
IAC 5, Chapter President
http://iac5.org
Kelly Airpark (CO15) http://www.kellyairpark.com
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106

New Email: JamieTreat@q.com
Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
Cell 303-304-7937

Quote of the Month: When asked by someone how much money flying takes: Why, all of it! - Gordon Baxter

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Downey
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 9:44 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] F-24 G brakes

I'm finding the preformance of my mechanical brakes to be a lot less than I would like. What are my options? I am a A&P-IA that can run the 337's to gain field approval if required.

Who has done what in the past?

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