Re: new member + new to F-24's

vampsqu · Post by **vampsqu** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:08 pm

'My mane is Tim. I am helping a friend restore his 1934 F-24 c8c. He
is a very
experienced pilot and restorer but neither of us had any prior
experience with Fairchilds. We have started blasting and priming the
fuse, that's going pretty well. I was hoping yall might enlighten us
on some details which may be particular to F-24's.
We are taking off everything we can before blasting. We were last
working on taking out the floorboards and sticks. He mentioned he
couldn't figure out how to diconnect the two horizonal interconnect
shafts which connect the rudder pedals. He said something about the
mechanism had the bolt blocked on one end and there was something
obstructing on the other end too. Is there a "secret trick" to this
part ????? We'd love not to get blast media in the bushings there !
Also he was wondering who yall might reccomend to do good quality
work overhauling the landing gear strut hydraulic shocks and what kind
of fluid was used ?

His engine has it's oregional warner 145 and seems to be in very good
low time condition but has been sitting for many years (50+) but no
rust anywhere- stored in a airtight containers- but it will be getting
overhaul eventualy. It has a stromberg carb model NAR-5. It has
a heat exchaanger on the bottom for the exhaust/cabin heat(?) but
we don't seem to have whatever bolts onto that!
Could anyone supply a picture of that area so we might be able to see
the parts we need to find ? Also if anyone knows of an exhaust for
sale - he'd be interested !

We are now researching the wood stringers. Do yall know if anybody
makes duplicated of fairchilds? or does everybody just use modern
style with the big hump ( like aircraft spruce's ) We are considering
making our own from fir. (?)

Lots of questions I know - but we're REALLY ignorant !

Thank you all for your thoughts !
I'm sure we'll be talking again soon !

Best wishes and thanks , Tim'

hughc8c · Post by **hughc8c** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:17 pm

'--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "vampsqu" wrote:

>
> My mane is Tim. I am helping a friend restore his 1934 F-24 c8c. He
> is a very
> experienced pilot and restorer but neither of us had any prior
> experience with Fairchilds. We have started blasting and priming

the

> fuse, that's going pretty well. I was hoping yall might enlighten

us

> on some details which may be particular to F-24's.
> We are taking off everything we can before blasting. We were last
> working on taking out the floorboards and sticks. He mentioned he
> couldn't figure out how to diconnect the two horizonal interconnect
> shafts which connect the rudder pedals. He said something about the
> mechanism had the bolt blocked on one end and there was something
> obstructing on the other end too. Is there a "secret trick" to

this

> part ????? We'd love not to get blast media in the bushings there !
> Also he was wondering who yall might reccomend to do good quality
> work overhauling the landing gear strut hydraulic shocks and what

kind

> of fluid was used ?
>
> His engine has it's oregional warner 145 and seems to be in very

good

> low time condition but has been sitting for many years (50+) but no
> rust anywhere- stored in a airtight containers- but it will be

getting

> overhaul eventualy. It has a stromberg carb model NAR-5. It has
> a heat exchaanger on the bottom for the exhaust/cabin heat(?) but
> we don't seem to have whatever bolts onto that!
> Could anyone supply a picture of that area so we might be able to

see

> the parts we need to find ? Also if anyone knows of an exhaust for
> sale - he'd be interested !
>
> We are now researching the wood stringers. Do yall know if anybody
> makes duplicated of fairchilds? or does everybody just use modern
> style with the big hump ( like aircraft spruce's ) We are

considering

> making our own from fir. (?)
>
>
> Lots of questions I know - but we're REALLY ignorant !
>
> Thank you all for your thoughts !
> I'm sure we'll be talking again soon !
>
> Best wishes and thanks , Tim
>

Tim,
I have sorted out the rudder shaft details on my 24-c8c project (S/N
2683). You will find that the rudder pedal shafts are mounted on
ball bearings so you definitely do not want blast medium in them.
The way to remove the shafts is to remove the right and left bolted
on bearing brackets then pull the shafts from the bearings mounted on
the welded brackets. Reverse the procedure in the proper (suitable)
sequence to re-install the shaft assemblies. Hope this helps.
Hugh'

hughc8c · Post by **hughc8c** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:38 pm

'--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "hughc8c" wrote:

>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "vampsqu" wrote:
> >
> > My mane is Tim. I am helping a friend restore his 1934 F-24 c8c.

He

> > is a very
> > experienced pilot and restorer but neither of us had any prior
> > experience with Fairchilds. We have started blasting and priming
> the
> > fuse, that's going pretty well. I was hoping yall might enlighten
> us
> > on some details which may be particular to F-24's.
> > We are taking off everything we can before blasting. We were last
> > working on taking out the floorboards and sticks. He mentioned he
> > couldn't figure out how to diconnect the two horizonal

interconnect

> > shafts which connect the rudder pedals. He said something about

the

> > mechanism had the bolt blocked on one end and there was something
> > obstructing on the other end too. Is there a "secret trick" to
> this
> > part ????? We'd love not to get blast media in the bushings

there !

> > Also he was wondering who yall might reccomend to do good quality
> > work overhauling the landing gear strut hydraulic shocks and what
> kind
> > of fluid was used ?
> >
> > His engine has it's oregional warner 145 and seems to be in very
> good
> > low time condition but has been sitting for many years (50+) but

no

> > rust anywhere- stored in a airtight containers- but it will be
> getting
> > overhaul eventualy. It has a stromberg carb model NAR-5. It has
> > a heat exchaanger on the bottom for the exhaust/cabin heat(?) but
> > we don't seem to have whatever bolts onto that!
> > Could anyone supply a picture of that area so we might be able to
> see
> > the parts we need to find ? Also if anyone knows of an exhaust

for

> > sale - he'd be interested !
> >
> > We are now researching the wood stringers. Do yall know if

anybody

> > makes duplicated of fairchilds? or does everybody just use modern
> > style with the big hump ( like aircraft spruce's ) We are
> considering
> > making our own from fir. (?)
> >
> >
> > Lots of questions I know - but we're REALLY ignorant !
> >
> > Thank you all for your thoughts !
> > I'm sure we'll be talking again soon !
> >
> > Best wishes and thanks , Tim
> >
> Tim,
> I have sorted out the rudder shaft details on my 24-c8c project

(S/N

> 2683). You will find that the rudder pedal shafts are mounted on
> ball bearings so you definitely do not want blast medium in them.
> The way to remove the shafts is to remove the right and left bolted
> on bearing brackets then pull the shafts from the bearings mounted

on

> the welded brackets. Reverse the procedure in the proper

(suitable)

> sequence to re-install the shaft assemblies. Hope this helps.
> Hugh
>

Tim,
I should have added that the rudder pedal shaft removal/re-
installation procedure is a very tedious operation but very doable.
Or you can seal up the openings during blasting and leave the shafts
installed.
Hugh'

Tom Downey · Post by **Tom Downey** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:12 am

'Check my web page, I can epair most of the things you talked about.

Finishing up on a 7 year restoration of NC19143, a 37-G.

I now have the tools and equipment for trueing the 10" hayes wheels,
and replacing the brake drums.

Al Holloway at Holloway engineering at Quincy Ca. is the best place
to have the 145 rebuilt.

the stringers can be manufactured easy I used my router and a
fixture I made (see the web page)

http://www.whidbey.com/faichild-nc19143

you can see videos there.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "vampsqu" wrote:
>
> My mane is Tim. I am helping a friend restore his 1934 F-24 c8c.
He
> is a very
> experienced pilot and restorer but neither of us had any prior
> experience with Fairchilds. We have started blasting and priming
the
> fuse, that's going pretty well. I was hoping yall might enlighten
us
> on some details which may be particular to F-24's.
> We are taking off everything we can before blasting. We were last
> working on taking out the floorboards and sticks. He mentioned he
> couldn't figure out how to diconnect the two horizonal
interconnect
> shafts which connect the rudder pedals. He said something about
the
> mechanism had the bolt blocked on one end and there was something
> obstructing on the other end too. Is there a "secret trick" to
this
> part ????? We'd love not to get blast media in the bushings
there !
> Also he was wondering who yall might reccomend to do good quality
> work overhauling the landing gear strut hydraulic shocks and what
kind
> of fluid was used ?
>
> His engine has it's oregional warner 145 and seems to be in very
good
> low time condition but has been sitting for many years (50+) but no
> rust anywhere- stored in a airtight containers- but it will be
getting
> overhaul eventualy. It has a stromberg carb model NAR-5. It has
> a heat exchaanger on the bottom for the exhaust/cabin heat(?) but
> we don't seem to have whatever bolts onto that!
> Could anyone supply a picture of that area so we might be able to
see
> the parts we need to find ? Also if anyone knows of an exhaust for
> sale - he'd be interested !
>
> We are now researching the wood stringers. Do yall know if anybody
> makes duplicated of fairchilds? or does everybody just use modern
> style with the big hump ( like aircraft spruce's ) We are
considering
> making our own from fir. (?)
>
>
> Lots of questions I know - but we're REALLY ignorant !
>
> Thank you all for your thoughts !
> I'm sure we'll be talking again soon !
>
> Best wishes and thanks , Tim
>

'

David Stroud · Post by **David Stroud** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:18 am

'There's an F24 project for sale on ebay for only $1,500 and no bidders yet. Closes
in 3 days. Could be some good spares in the deal. Rockford, Il.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170251526054&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV

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james chybicki · Post by **james chybicki** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:38 am

'Hi All
I've been in direct contact with the owner, Nice folks, they live in an airport community, and have a few old projects. SInce I live a few miles away, My partner Bob and I are going out to see them in a day or 2. Will report if there is anything worth saving. The wings, Horz. & Vert. Stabs and all wood is scrap, not even sure you can get patterns from them. You can see in the pictures on the web link.
Owner currently does not want to piece the plane out, I tried getting some pieces already.
Jim C.
UC-61K

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, DAVID STROUD wrote:

From: DAVID STROUD
Subject: [fairchildclub] F24 project / parts for sale on ebay
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 6:17 AM

There's an F24 project for sale on ebay for only $1,500 and no bidders yet. Closes
in 3 days. Could be some good spares in the deal. Rockford, Il.

http://cgi.ebay com/ebaymotors/ ws/eBayISAPI. dll?ViewItem& rd=1&item= 170251526054& ssPageName= STRK:MEWA: IT&ih=007

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV

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vsamuilov@notes.cc.sunysb.edu · Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:18 am

'Jim:
I own F-24G model and would like to consider buying this project.
Is there any chance for me to calll you before you go to see the project?
What is the phone # you can be reached? Or could you call me, please:
(631)312-4104 -cell, or (631)-744-2386- home?
Thank you,
Best,,
Vlad

james chybicki
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Hi All
I've been in direct contact with the owner, Nice folks, they live in an
airport community, and have a few old projects. SInce I live a few miles
away, My partner Bob and I are going out to see them in a day or 2. Will
report if there is anything worth saving. The wings, Horz. & Vert.
Stabs and all wood is scrap, not even sure you can get patterns from them.
You can see in the pictures on the web link.
Owner currently does not want to piece the plane out, I tried getting some
pieces already.
Jim C.
UC-61K

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, DAVID STROUD wrote:

From: DAVID STROUD
Subject: [fairchildclub] F24 project / parts for sale on ebay
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 6:17 AM

There's an F24 project for sale on ebay for only $1,500 and no bidders
yet. Closes
in 3 days. Could be some good spares in the deal. Rockford, Il.

http://cgi.ebay com/ebaymotors/ ws/eBayISAPI. dll?ViewItem& rd=1&item=
170251526054& ssPageName= STRK:MEWA: IT&ih=007

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV

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ROBERT COON · Post by **ROBERT COON** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:50 am

'Tim,
Welcome to the wonderful world of rebuilding a Fairchild. You'll be surprised at what you can do once you set your mind to do it. We, partner Jim and myself, have been amazed at what we can do. I'll send you some pictures of how we have progressed, but would recommend you do your own stringers. We bought the first set to go on the belly, and, by dumb luck, it worked out better because they are much stronger than the ones we made. We have a local (Chicago) lumber dealer who stocks Sitka Spruce, so that's where we've purchased all of our lumber. He's been very good to drag out most of his supply for us when we go in to purchase. The stringers for ours were cut from a 17' x7 1/2" x2 1/2' piece of Spruce. Cut to size, router, plane, sand and varnish. Figure about 3-4 hours per stringer.
Rudder pedals come out as a unit after floor boards come out. Good luck and let us know if we can assist you further. Where abouts are you located?

Keep em' flying.
Bob Coon
UC-61K
1943 Fairchild 24R-46

--- On Tue, 8/19/08, vampsqu wrote:

From: vampsqu
Subject: [fairchildclub] new member + new to F-24's
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 6:08 PM

My mane is Tim. I am helping a friend restore his 1934 F-24 c8c. He
is a very
experienced pilot and restorer but neither of us had any prior
experience with Fairchilds. We have started blasting and priming the
fuse, that's going pretty well. I was hoping yall might enlighten us
on some details which may be particular to F-24's.
We are taking off everything we can before blasting. We were last
working on taking out the floorboards and sticks. He mentioned he
couldn't figure out how to diconnect the two horizonal interconnect
shafts which connect the rudder pedals. He said something about the
mechanism had the bolt blocked on one end and there was something
obstructing on the other end too. Is there a "secret trick" to this
part ????? We'd love not to get blast media in the bushings there !
Also he was wondering who yall might reccomend to do good quality
work overhauling the landing gear strut hydraulic shocks and what kind
of fluid was used ?

His engine has it's oregional warner 145 and seems to be in very good
low time condition but has been sitting for many years (50+) but no
rust anywhere- stored in a airtight containers- but it will be getting
overhaul eventualy. It has a stromberg carb model NAR-5. It has
a heat exchaanger on the bottom for the exhaust/cabin heat(?) but
we don't seem to have whatever bolts onto that!
Could anyone supply a picture of that area so we might be able to see
the parts we need to find ? Also if anyone knows of an exhaust for
sale - he'd be interested !

We are now researching the wood stringers. Do yall know if anybody
makes duplicated of fairchilds? or does everybody just use modern
style with the big hump ( like aircraft spruce's ) We are considering
making our own from fir. (?)

Lots of questions I know - but we're REALLY ignorant !

Thank you all for your thoughts !
I'm sure we'll be talking again soon !

Best wishes and thanks , Tim

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