Re: Question...

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Tom Mueller
Posts: 83
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:18 pm

Question...

Post by Tom Mueller »

'I just had both landing gear off for new bolts and bushings all the
way around. The oleo struts were
examined and one gland nut was backed off a little because one strut
was stiff and not extending easily.
Everything is back on my airplane, but I'm curious about a length of
cable (maybe a foot long) that
attaches to the universal joint at the top of oleo piston, then
attaches to a collar near the top of the main tube.
Does anyone know what length this cable is supposed to be? My concern
is it looks like the cable is to short to let the strut fully extend
after takeoff. Both cables look like they have worked hard for many
years preventing the strut from bottoming out on its own. I thought
the strut had to fully extend after takeoff to prepare itself for the
next landing. Maybe not! Anybody know the length of this cable.
Anybody know the purpose?
I have a Temco built R46. Thanks!
Tom
Hanford, Ca.'
danMichael
Posts: 109
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2001 4:03 pm

Re: Question...

Post by danMichael »

'Tom:
> Does anyone know what length this cable is supposed to be? My concern
> is it looks like the cable is to short to let the strut fully extend
> after takeoff. Both cables look like they have worked hard for many
> years preventing the strut from bottoming out on its own. I thought
> the strut had to fully extend after takeoff to prepare itself for the
> next landing. Maybe not! Anybody know the length of this cable.
> Anybody know the purpose?
Its a safety cable that is intended to prevent the landing gear strut
from separating if the gland nut came undone: it would be difficult to
make a nice landing with one gear leg hanging vertically. I cant tell
you the length, but I believe there should be sufficient slack in the
cable to just allow the strut to fully extend (4 3/4" per the manual).
Be sure that this cable doesnt get tangled when you replace the gear
leg fairings, if applicable.

I cant tell if this cable is depicted on drawing #43320 due to poor
image quality.

Take care,

:Dan
:NC81323'
Tom Mueller
Posts: 83
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:18 pm

Re: Question...

Post by Tom Mueller »

'Thanks Dan
If I understand you,and I think I do. I need to suspend the
airframe again, let the gear hang free, making sure the oleo struts
are bottoming out from the weight of wheel and tire, then while in that
position there should be just a little slack in the cable (just in
case the gland nut fails) Amazing airplane!
Tom'
harry hayman
Posts: 85
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2001 1:33 pm

Re: Question...

Post by harry hayman »

'does anyone know if these cable's were fitted to the
R39 model's I am going to check the manual but some
input would be appreciated
Thanx
Harry

--- Tom Mueller wrote:
> I just had both landing gear off for new bolts and
> bushings all the
> way around. The oleo struts were
> examined and one gland nut was backed off a little
> because one strut
> was stiff and not extending easily.
> Everything is back on my airplane, but I'm curious
> about a length of
> cable (maybe a foot long) that
> attaches to the universal joint at the top of oleo
> piston, then
> attaches to a collar near the top of the main tube.
> Does anyone know what length this cable is supposed
> to be? My concern
> is it looks like the cable is to short to let the
> strut fully extend
> after takeoff. Both cables look like they have
> worked hard for many
> years preventing the strut from bottoming out on its
> own. I thought
> the strut had to fully extend after takeoff to
> prepare itself for the
> next landing. Maybe not! Anybody know the length of
> this cable.
> Anybody know the purpose?
> I have a Temco built R46. Thanks!
> Tom
> Hanford, Ca.
>
>
>
>

Harry Hayman
Phone 904-284-4276
Fax 904-284-3869

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ranger440c5
Posts: 73
Joined: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:26 pm

Re: Question...

Post by ranger440c5 »

'It's also there in case the piston gets driven off the rod/tube. All
that holds this on is the tube wall thickness and a miniscule clevis
pin. There is a SB that covers a reinforcing ring to be added at this
point. Shoud be there on the post war jobs if I remember. EZ


--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Mueller"
wrote:
> Thanks Dan
> If I understand you,and I think I do. I need to suspend the
> airframe again, let the gear hang free, making sure the oleo struts
> are bottoming out from the weight of wheel and tire, then while in
that
> position there should be just a little slack in the cable (just in
> case the gland nut fails) Amazing airplane!
> Tom
'
danMichael
Posts: 109
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2001 4:03 pm

Re: Question...

Post by danMichael »

'Tom:
> If I understand you,and I think I do. I need to suspend the
> airframe again, let the gear hang free, making sure the oleo struts
> are bottoming out from the weight of wheel and tire, then while in that
> position there should be just a little slack in the cable (just in
> case the gland nut fails)
Thats what I would do. If you really dont want to lift the plane
again, you could take the analytic approach: measure the distance
between the upper and lower cable anchor points, subtract the amount
the strut can still compress (should be obvious from the wear pattern),
and add 4 3/4" plus a bit of slack.

:Dan'
Buell Powell
Posts: 111
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2001 8:19 am

Re: Question...

Post by Buell Powell »

'Tom,
I have a 46 F24 Fairchild that I bought as a basket case. It
doesn't have the safety cables. If you could e-mail some pictures of the
attached and any information I would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance,
Buell Powell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Mueller"
To:
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:00 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Question...


> I just had both landing gear off for new bolts and bushings all the
> way around. The oleo struts were
> examined and one gland nut was backed off a little because one strut
> was stiff and not extending easily.
> Everything is back on my airplane, but I'm curious about a length of
> cable (maybe a foot long) that
> attaches to the universal joint at the top of oleo piston, then
> attaches to a collar near the top of the main tube.
> Does anyone know what length this cable is supposed to be? My concern
> is it looks like the cable is to short to let the strut fully extend
> after takeoff. Both cables look like they have worked hard for many
> years preventing the strut from bottoming out on its own. I thought
> the strut had to fully extend after takeoff to prepare itself for the
> next landing. Maybe not! Anybody know the length of this cable.
> Anybody know the purpose?
> I have a Temco built R46. Thanks!
> Tom
> Hanford, Ca.
>
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>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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ranger440c5
Posts: 73
Joined: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:26 pm

Re: Question...

Post by ranger440c5 »

'--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Buell Powell"
wrote:
> Tom,
> I have a 46 F24 Fairchild that I bought as a basket case.



Basket case???? Why that was a complete airplane....in perfect
condition.....cover and go fly. :-) Buell, you're going to have to quit
playing around with that Tcraft and get to work!!! EZ





>
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Tom Mueller
Posts: 83
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:18 pm

Re: Question...

Post by Tom Mueller »

'Buell,
I hoisted the airframe again (getting pretty good at it) to simulate a
takeoff, and as I suspected the
safety wires were short in length. They stopped the downward travel of
the wheels and tires about
two inches shy of full travel. Now as I understand it, and nobody has
told me otherwise, this
type of hydraulic/spring shock absorber should travel to full
extension after takeoff to properly charge itself for the up coming
landing. It wasn't doing that. The mechanics of this strut look to be
relatively straightforward, as compared to an air/oil type strut. It
is reported in aviation mechanic books of that time
as having excellent rebound canceling properties. We'll see...
I'll take a few pictures after the new cables are installed and get
back with you... New cables will be 20" long........Hang!
Tom
Hanford,Ca'
John Amundsen
Posts: 14
Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 8:46 am

Re: Question...

Post by John Amundsen »

'The 46 had the safety cables. Hang it form the air and install to save you gear from falling out.
----- Original Message -----
From: Buell Powell
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Question...


Tom,
I have a 46 F24 Fairchild that I bought as a basket case. It
doesn't have the safety cables. If you could e-mail some pictures of the
attached and any information I would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance,
Buell Powell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Mueller"
To:
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:00 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Question...


> I just had both landing gear off for new bolts and bushings all the
> way around. The oleo struts were
> examined and one gland nut was backed off a little because one strut
> was stiff and not extending easily.
> Everything is back on my airplane, but I'm curious about a length of
> cable (maybe a foot long) that
> attaches to the universal joint at the top of oleo piston, then
> attaches to a collar near the top of the main tube.
> Does anyone know what length this cable is supposed to be? My concern
> is it looks like the cable is to short to let the strut fully extend
> after takeoff. Both cables look like they have worked hard for many
> years preventing the strut from bottoming out on its own. I thought
> the strut had to fully extend after takeoff to prepare itself for the
> next landing. Maybe not! Anybody know the length of this cable.
> Anybody know the purpose?
> I have a Temco built R46. Thanks!
> Tom
> Hanford, Ca.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>



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