Re: Ranger engine breakin procedure

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longmere2
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Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:48 am

Re: Ranger engine breakin procedure

Post by longmere2 »

'I have about 450 hours on my engine, and to the best of my knowledge
it has always run on mineral oil. A mechanic suggested that I
switch to an AD oil. This has always been a no no. Any thoughts?

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Michael Denest
wrote:
> One thing Mark did not mention is the oil type. We
> believe that 60 wt. (120 Grade) mineral is the best
> break-in oil to use. Run it for at least 25 hours or
> until the oil consumption goes down then drain it,
> check the screens and switch to 50 or 60 wt. AD
> (depending on climate). Works every time. 60 years
> ago, the only oil available was mineral and these
> engines were designed around that factor.
>
> Mike Denest
>
> --- mdaero1941@a... wrote:
>
> > Hey Bob, same here. What we have done in the past up
> > here is this. First we
> > adjust fuel and oil pressure. We like to see about
> > 60-65 lbs. on the oil. It
> > usually goes down about 5 lbs. after the first hour.
> > After about 10 hours we
> > will go back and adjust it to 55 lbs. We will do a
> > mag check at 1500 rpm also,
> > then shut down and cool off. Later on we'll go back
> > and run it up more time to
> > check things out, then fly. We only run it up for
> > about 10 to 15 minutes on the
> > ground. I'll do a shallow climb out to about 5,000
> > ft. (nice cool temp in
> > summer) then alternate the rpm from 2250 to 2300 for
> > ten minutes, then down to
> > 2100 for five minutes. Do this till the oil
> > consumption stabilizes. We have been
> > getting less then a quart to a quart and a half an
> > hour by this method. We
> > have been getting a few calls lately about
> > rebuilding Rangers, Dad just finished
> > his 51st rebuild for a fellow in Florida, and now we
> > have one that needs a
> > top overhaul that will go on a PT-26 in Illinois.
> > Anyway, it's been a good
> > discussion - hope things are nice in FL., it's about
> > 10 degrees here.
> >
> > Mark Denest
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
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Jamie S. Treat
Posts: 141
Joined: Tue Feb 13, 2001 10:01 am

Re: Ranger engine breakin procedure

Post by Jamie S. Treat »

'You will be taking a chance breaking any sludge loose and causing damage.

I would not convert myself at this stage of the game.

Jamie S. Treat A&P/IA
Aircraft Restoration & Repair
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Kelly Airpark
Elbert, CO 80106
HM/Shop 303-648-0130

----- Original Message -----
From: "longmere2"
To:
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:46 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Ranger engine breakin procedure


>
>
> I have about 450 hours on my engine, and to the best of my knowledge
> it has always run on mineral oil. A mechanic suggested that I
> switch to an AD oil. This has always been a no no. Any thoughts?
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Michael Denest
> wrote:
>> One thing Mark did not mention is the oil type. We
>> believe that 60 wt. (120 Grade) mineral is the best
>> break-in oil to use. Run it for at least 25 hours or
>> until the oil consumption goes down then drain it,
>> check the screens and switch to 50 or 60 wt. AD
>> (depending on climate). Works every time. 60 years
>> ago, the only oil available was mineral and these
>> engines were designed around that factor.
>>
>> Mike Denest
>>
>> --- mdaero1941@a... wrote:
>>
>> > Hey Bob, same here. What we have done in the past up
>> > here is this. First we
>> > adjust fuel and oil pressure. We like to see about
>> > 60-65 lbs. on the oil. It
>> > usually goes down about 5 lbs. after the first hour.
>> > After about 10 hours we
>> > will go back and adjust it to 55 lbs. We will do a
>> > mag check at 1500 rpm also,
>> > then shut down and cool off. Later on we'll go back
>> > and run it up more time to
>> > check things out, then fly. We only run it up for
>> > about 10 to 15 minutes on the
>> > ground. I'll do a shallow climb out to about 5,000
>> > ft. (nice cool temp in
>> > summer) then alternate the rpm from 2250 to 2300 for
>> > ten minutes, then down to
>> > 2100 for five minutes. Do this till the oil
>> > consumption stabilizes. We have been
>> > getting less then a quart to a quart and a half an
>> > hour by this method. We
>> > have been getting a few calls lately about
>> > rebuilding Rangers, Dad just finished
>> > his 51st rebuild for a fellow in Florida, and now we
>> > have one that needs a
>> > top overhaul that will go on a PT-26 in Illinois.
>> > Anyway, it's been a good
>> > discussion - hope things are nice in FL., it's about
>> > 10 degrees here.
>> >
>> > Mark Denest
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
>> > removed]
>> >
>> >
>>
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Bob Haas
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Re: Ranger engine breakin procedure

Post by Bob Haas »

'I did that once along time ago, I think just after that I started buying 120
AD in 55 Gal drums. In those days oil drums were not too hard to get rid of.
That was before EPA!



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From: Jamie S. Treat [mailto:jamietreat@direcway.com]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:05 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: Ranger engine breakin procedure



You will be taking a chance breaking any sludge loose and causing damage.

I would not convert myself at this stage of the game.

Jamie S. Treat A&P/IA
Aircraft Restoration & Repair
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Kelly Airpark
Elbert, CO 80106
HM/Shop 303-648-0130

----- Original Message -----
From: "longmere2"
To:
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:46 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Ranger engine breakin procedure


>
>
> I have about 450 hours on my engine, and to the best of my knowledge
> it has always run on mineral oil. A mechanic suggested that I
> switch to an AD oil. This has always been a no no. Any thoughts?
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Michael Denest
> wrote:
>> One thing Mark did not mention is the oil type. We
>> believe that 60 wt. (120 Grade) mineral is the best
>> break-in oil to use. Run it for at least 25 hours or
>> until the oil consumption goes down then drain it,
>> check the screens and switch to 50 or 60 wt. AD
>> (depending on climate). Works every time. 60 years
>> ago, the only oil available was mineral and these
>> engines were designed around that factor.
>>
>> Mike Denest
>>
>> --- mdaero1941@a... wrote:
>>
>> > Hey Bob, same here. What we have done in the past up
>> > here is this. First we
>> > adjust fuel and oil pressure. We like to see about
>> > 60-65 lbs. on the oil. It
>> > usually goes down about 5 lbs. after the first hour.
>> > After about 10 hours we
>> > will go back and adjust it to 55 lbs. We will do a
>> > mag check at 1500 rpm also,
>> > then shut down and cool off. Later on we'll go back
>> > and run it up more time to
>> > check things out, then fly. We only run it up for
>> > about 10 to 15 minutes on the
>> > ground. I'll do a shallow climb out to about 5,000
>> > ft. (nice cool temp in
>> > summer) then alternate the rpm from 2250 to 2300 for
>> > ten minutes, then down to
>> > 2100 for five minutes. Do this till the oil
>> > consumption stabilizes. We have been
>> > getting less then a quart to a quart and a half an
>> > hour by this method. We
>> > have been getting a few calls lately about
>> > rebuilding Rangers, Dad just finished
>> > his 51st rebuild for a fellow in Florida, and now we
>> > have one that needs a
>> > top overhaul that will go on a PT-26 in Illinois.
>> > Anyway, it's been a good
>> > discussion - hope things are nice in FL., it's about
>> > 10 degrees here.
>> >
>> > Mark Denest
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
>> > removed]
>> >
>> >
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