Re: Right vs. left hand; was: F-24 restoration

davestroud · Post by **davestroud** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:54 am

'A couple of questions when you get a chance please, lads.
http://evergreenaviationservices.com/fc24/fairchild04.JPG here's a picture of an F-24 under
restoration. Where does the oil tank normally go on the plane? It sure looks as if the firewall is
going to be a pretty crowded place if any of the engine's accessories protrude aft thru the mount.
Secondly, does anyone know if the vertical stabilizer's leading edge is adjustable left and
right? Is it offset at all? Thanks..

David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 Early construction

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robert Etter · Post by **robert Etter** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:17 pm

'If you don't get anything else on the oil tank location, send me an E-mail.
My firewall is sitting in the corner of my garage, and it wouldn't be a
problem to take a photograph on the digital camera and send it to you. The
oil tank is located on the right side of the firewall, quite close to the
edge of the firewall/cowling, and just under the top right motor mount leg.
I also noticed something else about the picture. Brakes pedals on the right
side? I didn't notice any linkage installed.

Bob'

davestroud · Post by **davestroud** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:37 pm

'Thanks for the quick reply, Bob. Yes, I would very much appreciate a photo
of the firewall
if it's not too much trouble. Perhaps direct to me might be best.
Re: the brake pedals..you've got real good eyes. I can't quite tell if what
I'm seeing is a brake
pedal on top of the rudder pedal and I'm not sure if it's on the right side
or not in that photo.
The thought occurred to me earlier about putting the
controls all on the right side anyway as I have always flown in a tandem
seat arrangement.
I can't see any problems other than it may affect the resale of the plane if
that ever happens.
I've always flown with my left hand on the throttle and right hand on the
stick. Any and all
comments about that diversion would be welcome. Thanks..

David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 Early construction

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Etter"
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] F-24 restoration

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> If you don't get anything else on the oil tank location, send me an
E-mail.
> My firewall is sitting in the corner of my garage, and it wouldn't be a
> problem to take a photograph on the digital camera and send it to you.
The
> oil tank is located on the right side of the firewall, quite close to the
> edge of the firewall/cowling, and just under the top right motor mount
leg.
> I also noticed something else about the picture. Brakes pedals on the
right
> side? I didn't notice any linkage installed.
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> Bob
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robert Etter · Post by **robert Etter** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:01 am

'Dave, could you send me you E-mail address. The web site won't accept
attachments.
What attachment format can you deal with the best? JPG, BMP??
Bob'

davestroud · Post by **davestroud** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:10 am

'Giday, Bob..it's davestroud@rogers.com
and jpg's would be best. Thanks a million.

David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 Early construction

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Etter"
To:
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] F-24 restoration

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> Dave, could you send me you E-mail address. The web site won't accept
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> What attachment format can you deal with the best? JPG, BMP??
> Bob
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danMichael · Post by **danMichael** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:59 am

'David:

> The thought occurred to me earlier about putting the
> controls all on the right side anyway as I have always flown in a
> tandem
> seat arrangement.
> I can't see any problems other than it may affect the resale of the
> plane if
> that ever happens.
> I've always flown with my left hand on the throttle and right hand on
> the
> stick. Any and all
> comments about that diversion would be welcome. Thanks..

Before I flew my 24, I had only flown right hand stick. In fact, I
first learned to fly that way. And like most people, I am
right-handed. The first hour or two flying with hands reversed felt
very awkward and I wondered if I was going to adapt. On landings I had
to resist the urge to switch hands in the flare. It felt like I was
driving a car with my feet on the steering wheel. But soon enough I
did. Lately I havent been flying tandems much and when I now fly with
the stick in my right hand, it feels strange!

My advice is to leave the plane stock and give it a try. Have an
experienced right-seater until you get comfortable.

And a benefit of piloting from the left seat is better visibility in
the usual left-hand traffic patterns.

Good luck.

:Dan
:NC81323'

Thekortas@aol.com · Post by **Thekortas@aol.com** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:48 am

'In the "for what it's worth" category.....I owned a tandem Aeronca (Defender) for about 16 years before buying my 24. Only felt strange for a while shift from right to left and left to right. Then, while I owned both of them at the same time, I'd go back and forth with no problem and little notice of it. Have since sold the Aeronca and have never even given the right hand left hand question a second thought any more...not until seeing your question. Have fun with it.
Steve Korta
NC77645'

harry hayman · Post by **harry hayman** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:08 pm

'Steve's right (at least for me)I have a J3 and
F24.Give it a try,hope it work's out for you'Harry
Hayman

--- Thekortas@aol.com wrote:

> In the "for what it's worth" category.....I owned a
> tandem Aeronca (Defender) for about 16 years before
> buying my 24. Only felt strange for a while shift
> from right to left and left to right. Then, while I
> owned both of them at the same time, I'd go back and
> forth with no problem and little notice of it. Have
> since sold the Aeronca and have never even given the
> right hand left hand question a second thought any
> more...not until seeing your question. Have fun with
> it.
> Steve Korta
> NC77645
>

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danMichael · Post by **danMichael** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:40 am

'On Saturday, October 23, 2004, at 02:36 PM, davestroud wrote:

> The thought occurred to me earlier about putting the controls all on
> the right side anyway as I have always flown in a tandem seat
> arrangement. I can't see any problems other than it may affect the
> resale of the plane if that ever happens. I've always flown with my
> left hand on the throttle and right hand on the stick. Any and all
> comments about that diversion would be welcome. Thanks.

I came across this very issue while reading Charles Lindbergh's early
autobiography "We". Upon the start of his training as an Army Air
Cadet in 1924 (after barnstorming a Curtis Jenny for a year and a
half), he remarks:

"I had some difficulty in flying with my right hand. The wartime ships
which I was accustomed to were built to be flown with the left, but
after the Armistice it was decided to change the throttle over to the
other side on the theory that the right hand was the natural one to fly
with. After three landings, however, Sergeant Winston got out of the
cockpit and told me to fly around for thirty minutes and try to get
used to right handed piloting."

:Dan
:NC81323'

Jamie S. Treat · Post by **Jamie S. Treat** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:42 am

'Dan,

I felt the same way, most of my time is in Pitts, Champs, and others with
the same configuration. After about couple of hours it is just as natural.
Just as comfortable as the standard config. I would not change a thing.

Jamie

----- Original Message -----
From: "danMichael"
To: "David Stroud"
Cc:
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:39 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Right vs. left hand; was: F-24 restoration

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> On Saturday, October 23, 2004, at 02:36 PM, davestroud wrote:
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>> The thought occurred to me earlier about putting the controls all on
>> the right side anyway as I have always flown in a tandem seat
>> arrangement. I can't see any problems other than it may affect the
>> resale of the plane if that ever happens. I've always flown with my
>> left hand on the throttle and right hand on the stick. Any and all
>> comments about that diversion would be welcome. Thanks.
>
> I came across this very issue while reading Charles Lindbergh's early
> autobiography "We". Upon the start of his training as an Army Air
> Cadet in 1924 (after barnstorming a Curtis Jenny for a year and a
> half), he remarks:
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> "I had some difficulty in flying with my right hand. The wartime ships
> which I was accustomed to were built to be flown with the left, but
> after the Armistice it was decided to change the throttle over to the
> other side on the theory that the right hand was the natural one to fly
> with. After three landings, however, Sergeant Winston got out of the
> cockpit and told me to fly around for thirty minutes and try to get
> used to right handed piloting."
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> :Dan
> :NC81323
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