Re: Flawed Warner 145 Exhaust Valve retainers

[Pilot4906@aol.com]

'Vintage Aircraft Group has several Ranger Engines. If the person that wants
a new cover I am sure we could let one go.

Gene Haines
Pilot4906@aol.com


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[plsurflyin@aol.com]

'In a message dated 5/19/2004 4:45:55 PM Central America Standard Tim,
Pilot4906@aol.com writes:
Vintage Aircraft Group has several Ranger Engines
How much for a freshly overhauled one?

don


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[Pilot4906@aol.com]

'I was thinking of the cover but we do have an engine that is about ready
to go. 200 HP with standard Cylinders. Price would depend on accessories and
if the mags and harness are overhauled by Savage Mag in CA. They are
somewhat high priced but they do a great job.

Where are you located? Shipping might be expensive. We are at Albion, NY.
Look at map and find Rochester / Buffalo Between them is Batavia, NY. We
are north of Batavia.

Airport is Pine Hill Airport 9G6.

Gene Haines


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[David Stroud]

'Can't find Mike Bourget's link to this post but I bring stuff up here to Ottawa
all the time thru Rothel's Parcel Service in Ogdensburg, NY ...zip 13669 all the time.
I've got to pick something there early next week.
"Generally speaking" ...lately UPS STINKS..$$ wise and service..FEDEX
is excellent across border or within ...either way.

David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 early construction ( needs a 5 US gallon oil tank )

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Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Valve Cover available


> I was thinking of the cover but we do have an engine that is about ready
> to go. 200 HP with standard Cylinders. Price would depend on accessories and
> if the mags and harness are overhauled by Savage Mag in CA. They are
> somewhat high priced but they do a great job.
>
> Where are you located? Shipping might be expensive. We are at Albion, NY.
> Look at map and find Rochester / Buffalo Between them is Batavia, NY. We
> are north of Batavia.
>
> Airport is Pine Hill Airport 9G6.
>
> Gene Haines
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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[dcasali]

'Hi all,

My 12V regulator for the generator on my Warner 145 seems to be packing
it in. It's an unmarked automotive style, three terminal unit. What is
the preferred replacement unit?

Dan Casali
N2088 1937 24G'

[ranger440c5]

'What generator are you using? Amps? Eclipse, Leece Neville, Champion?









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--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Dan Casali wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My 12V regulator for the generator on my Warner 145 seems to be
packing
> it in. It's an unmarked automotive style, three terminal unit. What
is
> the preferred replacement unit?
>
> Dan Casali
> N2088 1937 24G

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[dcasali]

'The generator is an Eclipse. Damifino the amperage. Didn't realize such
a variety of generators was used on the 145.

ranger440c5 wrote:

>What generator are you using? Amps? Eclipse, Leece Neville, Champion?
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>--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Dan Casali wrote:
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>>Hi all,
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>>My 12V regulator for the generator on my Warner 145 seems to be packing it in. It's an unmarked automotive style, three terminal unit. What
>>
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> is the preferred replacement unit?
>
> Dan Casali
> N2088 1937 24G
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>
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>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

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[dcasali]

'Hi All,

A while back I wrote about my Warner 145 misfiring due to a failed
exhaust valve retainer, and inquired if anyone else had encountered this
problem. Today I received in the mail from some kind soul (no note or
return address, but thanks) a copy of Warner service letter A-1, dated
June 5, 1936, which reads:

"We have recently discovered that a few exhaust valve retainer washers,
our PN 7611, are too hard. It is possible, due to this hardness, that PN
7611 might fail, therefore, we recommend that in all engines, which have
the letter "E" following the engine number, (example SS-115E) this part
be replaced with a new part No. 7611 which is heat treated to a lesser
degree of hardness."

The letter goes on to describe a free exchange program for existing
retainers.

My engine is number SS443E.

Unfortunately, the replacement part bears the same PN as the flawed
part. Anyone know how one could tell these retainers apart--other than
finding a hard one in two pieces? And is there a source for known good
retainers available?

Uneasily yours,

Dan Casali
N2088 1937 24G'

[Tom Downey]

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> Unfortunately, the replacement part bears the same PN as the flawed

part. Anyone know how one could tell these retainers apart--other
than finding a hard one in two pieces? And is there a source for
known good retainers available?

Uneasily yours,
Dan Casali
N2088 1937 24G

If we had one of each, I can do a rockwell hardeness test on them,
and duplicate as many as you like.

Tom Downey'

[ranger440c5]

'It would be a necessity to know the max output amperage to properly
size a regulator/controller. The controller has an overcurrent relay
to kick the gen offline to protect it. I do not know what types of
gens were certified for use on Warners, but since many, many ,many
generators have this SAE mount/drive system(4 bolt, 7/8" maj dia
spline) over the years just about anything could have been mounted up
and the paperwork ignored.
Check the gen data plate, likely it's a type397 25 amp unit. If your
data plate missing don't know where to begin. The type 397 is
available in several amp capacities and look very much alike physical
size wise. Since you know it's an Eclipse it must have a data plate,
right?
Since it is an Eclipse most of these if not all have isolated fields
and as such it is possible to set up for type A or B circuit control.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Dan Casali wrote:
> The generator is an Eclipse. Damifino the amperage. Didn't realize
such
> a variety of generators was used on the 145.
>
> ranger440c5 wrote:
>
> >What generator are you using? Amps? Eclipse, Leece Neville,
Champion?
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Dan Casali
wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>My 12V regulator for the generator on my Warner 145 seems to be
packing it in. It's an unmarked automotive style, three terminal
unit. What
> >>
> >>
> > is the preferred replacement unit?
> >
> > Dan Casali
> > N2088 1937 24G
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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