Re: Andover Motor Corp.

bison32674 · Post by **bison32674** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:55 pm

'My father returned from AR. last month with a 2 cylinder opposed
engine. Info he has on it is: Andover Motor Corp. Accessory power
plant Manufactured for the U.S. Army Airforce. Made by Fairchild
Engine & Aircraft corp farmingdale NY. Model V32, Air Corp #D-2, 10hp
@ 3200rpm.

I have not seen the engine yet (he lives 3 hours from me). The info.
that he has was written on a sign the guy he bought it from had. I
have found mention of an engine like it in a museum in California
(still waiting for an email back from them). Does anybody have a
record of this engine or better yet does anybody have a picture of
one, we would like to see if it is complete?

Thanks,
Jon'

rangerrobertmn · Post by **rangerrobertmn** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:20 pm

'Jon,

I have no idea where you live, but there is one at the San Diego
Aerospace museum.

Bob Waldron
Stillwater, MN

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bison32674"
wrote:

> My father returned from AR. last month with a 2 cylinder opposed
> engine. Info he has on it is: Andover Motor Corp. Accessory power
> plant Manufactured for the U.S. Army Airforce. Made by Fairchild
> Engine & Aircraft corp farmingdale NY. Model V32, Air Corp #D-2,

10hp

> @ 3200rpm.
>
> I have not seen the engine yet (he lives 3 hours from me). The

info.

> that he has was written on a sign the guy he bought it from had. I
> have found mention of an engine like it in a museum in California
> (still waiting for an email back from them). Does anybody have a
> record of this engine or better yet does anybody have a picture of
> one, we would like to see if it is complete?
>
> Thanks,
> Jon

'

dcasali · Post by **dcasali** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:03 pm

'I found this snippet using Google from a book review by Chris Williams
of "Sailplanes by Schweitzer" :

'...as an experiment, Ernie obtained a 12hp Andover motor and mounted it
with a pusher propeller on a pylon above the centre-section of a 1-19,
with the idea, often mooted, of making a self-launching sailplane. The
motor, which supplied the auxiliary power on B29 bombers was not
powerful enough, ...'

bison32674 wrote:

>My father returned from AR. last month with a 2 cylinder opposed
>engine. Info he has on it is: Andover Motor Corp. Accessory power
>plant Manufactured for the U.S. Army Airforce. Made by Fairchild
>Engine & Aircraft corp farmingdale NY. Model V32, Air Corp #D-2, 10hp
>@ 3200rpm.
>
>I have not seen the engine yet (he lives 3 hours from me). The info.
>that he has was written on a sign the guy he bought it from had. I
>have found mention of an engine like it in a museum in California
>(still waiting for an email back from them). Does anybody have a
>record of this engine or better yet does anybody have a picture of
>one, we would like to see if it is complete?
>
>Thanks,
>Jon
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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dcasali · Post by **dcasali** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:27 pm

'The weekend before last the lousy winter weather finally broke and I was
able to free my Warner 145 powered 24G from it's snowbound hanger, where
it had languished for six weeks without a start. Ten minutes into my
flight the engine suddenly began running rough, although still putting
out significant power. I immediately did a 180 and fiddled with mags,
mixture, and throttle without effect on the brief trip back to the pattern.

The next week I met with my mechanic and we started it up. At idle it
would hesitate regularly, missing on several consecutive cyclinders,
then run smoothly briefly, and repeat.

We soon identified a cyclinder running much colder than the rest, and a
closer exam with the cowl off lead us to the problem. The valve keeper
on the exhaust valve of the number 6 cyclinder had broken, leaving that
valve with no spring tension whatsoever. Fortunately, the number six is
a lower cyclinder, and the exhaust valve is almost vertical, stem down,
so gravity kept it from dropping deep into the cyclinder with ugly
result. The piston face has a half-moon ding and we will replace it.

The keeper looks like a large flat washer with a stem on its lower
surface, and the part had fractured cleanly at the joint between the
stem and the disk, leaving the stem on the valve.

So, for discussion: Has anyone else seen this failure on a Warner 145?
Is there a source for new valve retainers? And finally, how may of you
have had to nurse home an ailing Fairchild? There must be some war
stories out there.

Cheers,

Dan Casali
N2088
1937 24G

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bison32674 · Post by **bison32674** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:36 am

'Bob,

I actually live in in Isanti, MN and my father lives in Willmar. I
believe it was the San Diego museum that I wrote to but no response
yet.

Jon

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "rangerrobertmn"
wrote:

> Jon,
>
> I have no idea where you live, but there is one at the San Diego
> Aerospace museum.
>
> Bob Waldron
> Stillwater, MN
>
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bison32674"
> wrote:
> > My father returned from AR. last month with a 2 cylinder opposed
> > engine. Info he has on it is: Andover Motor Corp. Accessory power
> > plant Manufactured for the U.S. Army Airforce. Made by Fairchild
> > Engine & Aircraft corp farmingdale NY. Model V32, Air Corp #D-2,
> 10hp
> > @ 3200rpm.
> >
> > I have not seen the engine yet (he lives 3 hours from me). The
> info.
> > that he has was written on a sign the guy he bought it from had.

I

> > have found mention of an engine like it in a museum in California
> > (still waiting for an email back from them). Does anybody have a
> > record of this engine or better yet does anybody have a picture

of

> > one, we would like to see if it is complete?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jon

'

cliffmccluney@webtv.net · Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:04 am

'There was one of the B-29 aux. power units for sale on e bay a while
back. They also showed a photo of the unit.

Cliff McCluney
Kerens, TX.'

rangerrobertmn · Post by **rangerrobertmn** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:51 pm

'Jon,

There is a web site, where engine collectors discuss odd engines.
You might want to post your question there.

http://www.enginads.com/smokstak.cgi

Bob Waldron
Stillwater, MN

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bison32674"
wrote:

> Bob,
>
> I actually live in in Isanti, MN and my father lives in Willmar. I
> believe it was the San Diego museum that I wrote to but no response
> yet.
>
> Jon
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "rangerrobertmn"
> wrote:
> > Jon,
> >
> > I have no idea where you live, but there is one at the San Diego
> > Aerospace museum.
> >
> > Bob Waldron
> > Stillwater, MN
> >
> >
> > --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "bison32674"
> > wrote:
> > > My father returned from AR. last month with a 2 cylinder

opposed

> > > engine. Info he has on it is: Andover Motor Corp. Accessory

power

> > > plant Manufactured for the U.S. Army Airforce. Made by

Fairchild

> > > Engine & Aircraft corp farmingdale NY. Model V32, Air Corp #D-

2,

> > 10hp
> > > @ 3200rpm.
> > >
> > > I have not seen the engine yet (he lives 3 hours from me). The
> > info.
> > > that he has was written on a sign the guy he bought it from

had.

> I
> > > have found mention of an engine like it in a museum in

California

> > > (still waiting for an email back from them). Does anybody have

a

> > > record of this engine or better yet does anybody have a picture
> of
> > > one, we would like to see if it is complete?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jon

'

OldOOwl@aol.com · Post by **OldOOwl@aol.com** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:57 pm

'It was long ago...and far away.
We were coming home to Dodge City from the Fairview OK annual Veterans Day
fly-in. Right over Coldwater, Ks one of the exhaust valve heads broke off and
rattled around inside the cylinder for a moment or two...then went on out the
pipe. Lucky it didn't break through the piston head. We put down in a pasture
which had once been an airport...and had to store the plane there while
overhauling the engine.
I don't really trust the 145 anymore. The pistons are impossible to find.
I'm slowly restoring the plane but would prefer a 165...if I can find and
afford one. I know there is a 24G out there somewhere with a 165...the plane is on
floats.
Richard Hawley
NC19105

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Jamie Treat · Post by **Jamie Treat** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:05 pm

'Richard,

Take your choice of a Warner 165 or 185 for your 24G. I have access to six
165 Warners. One is 110 hours since overhaul. The others are in pieces. I
have one in the shop that belongs to Bob Etter. When your ready, all you
need is $$$. Also Buck Hubert has two 165s for sale. One is complete from a
Fairchild 24.

The 24G your speaking about belonged to George Hindal. Now belongs to Jack
Faas. May end up in Colorado in a few weeks. I have a customer that is
considering the purchase. It currently has a 185/200 Warner with CS
possibility. Float thing never happened.

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Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Things that go snap in the flight

> It was long ago...and far away.
> We were coming home to Dodge City from the Fairview OK annual Veterans Day
> fly-in. Right over Coldwater, Ks one of the exhaust valve heads broke off
and
> rattled around inside the cylinder for a moment or two...then went on out
the
> pipe. Lucky it didn't break through the piston head. We put down in a
pasture
> which had once been an airport...and had to store the plane there while
> overhauling the engine.
> I don't really trust the 145 anymore. The pistons are impossible to find.
> I'm slowly restoring the plane but would prefer a 165...if I can find and
> afford one. I know there is a 24G out there somewhere with a 165...the
plane is on
> floats.
> Richard Hawley
> NC19105
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

'

bison32674 · Post by **bison32674** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:20 pm

'Bob,

Have already posted to harrys web site - no response. Dad and I also
collect old farm engines. Don't know if anybody is interested but
there is a 4 cyl. drone engine on ebay right now - no name tag.

Jon

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "rangerrobertmn"
wrote:

> Jon,
>
> There is a web site, where engine collectors discuss odd engines.
> You might want to post your question there.
>
> http://www.enginads.com/smokstak.cgi
>
> Bob Waldron
> Stillwater, MN
>

'

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