Re: Warner engine base nuts

b guest · Post by **b guest** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:30 pm

'Can anyone supply the following ;
3/8"-24 steel hex nuts to these dimentions:
.506 or 1/2" across the flats,
.344 or 11/32" in height,.
.085 or 3/32" wall thickness
The bottom of the nut is undercut about a 1/32" all around to give the
effect of a washer.

These are the original dimentions of the base nuts used on the 1935
Warner Super Scarab 145hp 7 cylinder radial following the factory
modification to 3/8"-24 studs. We are completing a total rebuild of a
1936 Fairchild 24 C8E and the Warner SS50A engine so want to keep it as
original as we can. Hope you can assist us.
Thanks Bruce Guest'

Cy Galley · Post by **Cy Galley** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:30 pm

'This is a wild guess. Have you tried rod bolt nuts for a old Ford flat head?

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Subject: [fairchildclub] Warner engine base nuts

Can anyone supply the following ;
3/8"-24 steel hex nuts to these dimentions:
.506 or 1/2" across the flats,
.344 or 11/32" in height,.
.085 or 3/32" wall thickness
The bottom of the nut is undercut about a 1/32" all around to give the
effect of a washer.

These are the original dimentions of the base nuts used on the 1935
Warner Super Scarab 145hp 7 cylinder radial following the factory
modification to 3/8"-24 studs. We are completing a total rebuild of a
1936 Fairchild 24 C8E and the Warner SS50A engine so want to keep it as
original as we can. Hope you can assist us.
Thanks Bruce Guest

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John Ellis · Post by **John Ellis** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:39 pm

'Find automotive supply house that can order from Pioneer Products. They have
connecting rod bolts and nuts for almost everything in automotive. You
should be able to look at the size listing in the catalogue and find what
you want.

John Ellis

----- Original Message -----
From: "b guest"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:30 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Warner engine base nuts

> Can anyone supply the following ;
> 3/8"-24 steel hex nuts to these dimentions:
> .506 or 1/2" across the flats,
> .344 or 11/32" in height,.
> .085 or 3/32" wall thickness
> The bottom of the nut is undercut about a 1/32" all around to give the
> effect of a washer.
>
> These are the original dimentions of the base nuts used on the 1935
> Warner Super Scarab 145hp 7 cylinder radial following the factory
> modification to 3/8"-24 studs. We are completing a total rebuild of a
> 1936 Fairchild 24 C8E and the Warner SS50A engine so want to keep it as
> original as we can. Hope you can assist us.
> Thanks Bruce Guest
>
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b guest · Post by **b guest** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:07 pm

'Thanks Cy for the info, will give it a try. Bruce

Cy Galley wrote:

> This is a wild guess. Have you tried rod bolt nuts for a old Ford flat head?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: b guest
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:30 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Warner engine base nuts
>
> Can anyone supply the following ;
> 3/8"-24 steel hex nuts to these dimentions:
> .506 or 1/2" across the flats,
> .344 or 11/32" in height,.
> .085 or 3/32" wall thickness
> The bottom of the nut is undercut about a 1/32" all around to give the
> effect of a washer.
>
> These are the original dimentions of the base nuts used on the 1935
> Warner Super Scarab 145hp 7 cylinder radial following the factory
> modification to 3/8"-24 studs. We are completing a total rebuild of a
> 1936 Fairchild 24 C8E and the Warner SS50A engine so want to keep it as
> original as we can. Hope you can assist us.
> Thanks Bruce Guest
>
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b guest · Post by **b guest** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:10 pm

'Thanks John will follow your suggestion. Bruce

John Ellis wrote:

> Find automotive supply house that can order from Pioneer Products. They have
> connecting rod bolts and nuts for almost everything in automotive. You
> should be able to look at the size listing in the catalogue and find what
> you want.
>
> John Ellis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "b guest"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:30 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Warner engine base nuts
>
> > Can anyone supply the following ;
> > 3/8"-24 steel hex nuts to these dimentions:
> > .506 or 1/2" across the flats,
> > .344 or 11/32" in height,.
> > .085 or 3/32" wall thickness
> > The bottom of the nut is undercut about a 1/32" all around to give the
> > effect of a washer.
> >
> > These are the original dimentions of the base nuts used on the 1935
> > Warner Super Scarab 145hp 7 cylinder radial following the factory
> > modification to 3/8"-24 studs. We are completing a total rebuild of a
> > 1936 Fairchild 24 C8E and the Warner SS50A engine so want to keep it as
> > original as we can. Hope you can assist us.
> > Thanks Bruce Guest
> >
> >
> >
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GOLSONKY@aol.com · Post by **GOLSONKY@aol.com** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 6:52 pm

'Bruce,
If your cyl. base studs are factory mfg. studs, they are 3/8-24 + .005
thread.
(They probably did the +.005 so you couldn't use just any nut.)
They are also hardened to about r/c 30 if I remember right. (probably because
of the thin wall.)
(Torque Hint!) The book calls for 200 - 225 in. lb.. I found out the
hard way that if you torque the nut to 225 in. lb., the stud might be pulled out
of the case. That requires drilling & tapping the case for a stud that is
oversize on that end only.
I now torque to 200 in. lb. max.

You might try John Duncan at 719-481-4115. or Harman Dickerson at
573-449-6428.

George Olson'

b guest · Post by **b guest** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 10:08 pm

'George,
We really appreciate your information re the proper torgue and also a source
for the base nuts. We have already talked to HD and are preparing an order for some
additional items. So we thankyou very much for taking the time to send us an e-mail.
Regards Bruce

GOLSONKY@aol.com wrote:

> Bruce,
> If your cyl. base studs are factory mfg. studs, they are 3/8-24 + .005
> thread.
> (They probably did the +.005 so you couldn't use just any nut.)
> They are also hardened to about r/c 30 if I remember right. (probably because
> of the thin wall.)
> (Torque Hint!) The book calls for 200 - 225 in. lb.. I found out the
> hard way that if you torque the nut to 225 in. lb., the stud might be pulled out
> of the case. That requires drilling & tapping the case for a stud that is
> oversize on that end only.
> I now torque to 200 in. lb. max.
>
> You might try John Duncan at 719-481-4115. or Harman Dickerson at
> 573-449-6428.
>
> George Olson
>
>
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Melvyn Hiscock · Post by **Melvyn Hiscock** » Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:18 am

'

>George,
> We really appreciate your information re the proper torgue and
>also a source
>for the base nuts. We have already talked to HD and are preparing an
>order for some
>additional items. So we thankyou very much for taking the time to
>send us an e-mail.
>Regards Bruce

Harman is a great guy. My Warner rebuild would have been next to
impossible without him.

Melvyn Hiscock'

b guest · Post by **b guest** » Sat Nov 29, 2003 10:58 am

'Melvyn,
Nice to hear from you. We agree with you he is a real gentle man and we
hope to meet one day. Regards Bruce Guest

Melvyn Hiscock wrote:

> >George,
> > We really appreciate your information re the proper torgue and
> >also a source
> >for the base nuts. We have already talked to HD and are preparing an
> >order for some
> >additional items. So we thankyou very much for taking the time to
> >send us an e-mail.
> >Regards Bruce
>
> Harman is a great guy. My Warner rebuild would have been next to
> impossible without him.
>
> Melvyn Hiscock
>
>
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