Re: gemme a brake part two/expander tube mat'l

[robert Etter]

'Thanks for the information on the location of a supplier of Tite Seal. My
supply is almost gone.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "WALTER ALBERT"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] gemme a brake part two


> THERE IS ANOTHER GOOD SEALANT. LOCTITE 542 THREAD SEALANT OR HYDRAULICS
> ETC... I USE IT ON ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH DOT 5. WALT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marge & John Berendt
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 8:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] gemme a brake part two
>
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> > Bob
> >
> > Dot 3 is a very good paint remover. And it is a bit on the corrosive
> side.
> > I use a sealer called "Tite Seal" I get it from Chief Aircaft Supply in
> > Grants Pass Oregon their phone is 800-447-3408. titeseal come in two
> > weights I use the medium weight Dot 5 will find every leak you have in
> the
> > system. I have one small leak but the amount does not bother. Also it
> does
> > not take off paint.
> >
> > John Berendt.
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> > From: "robert hensarling"
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 2:03 AM
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] gemme a brake part two
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
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> > > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] gemme a brake part two
> > >
> > > Ok, I can do that. Is the Dot 3 corrosive? Do you have a suggestion
> for
> > a
> > > sealant for fittings Jamie when using Dot 5?
> > > Thanks!
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > > > WARNING WARNING WARNING,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > NO DOT THREE BRAKE FLUID, DOT 4 OR SWITCH TO DOT 5.
> > > >
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[robert Etter]

'Thanks for the info. I am getting close to the point where I need to
install brakes. I still have a hold-up when it comes to master cylinders.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: gemme a brake part two


> Tom,
>
> Left out the comma, We used Skydrol in out F-4, F-15 and F-16s in the
> Airforce. True you can use it in most applications, but when it comes to
the
> old Expander type rubber, it will turn it soft and swell. End up with
locked
> brakes.
>
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[Tom_Downey]

'--- In fairchildclub@y..., jstreat360@a... wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Still quite a few of the Fairchilds running around with Expander

(Hayes) type

> brakes. I like them once you set them up right. As for tubes, new

old stock

> out of Fresno Airparts along with the Brake Blocks. Stock will

someday run

> out. Reason #1 to take care of the system with the correct fluid.

Joe Denest

> hates the Cleveland install on the PTs. Can't blame him, socks on a

rooster

> comes to mind. Hard to cover up Clevelands on a PT, just not that

war time

> look.
>
> As for modern brakes. We have many FAA 337s for one time field

approval to

> convert to Clevelands. You can use the Cessna 310, three puck

system, remove

> the center pad for less brake. Or you can order the Cessna Ag Truck

two puck

> system. Also I have been looking at the NuWaco brakes that

Cleveland designed

> for the UPF-7. They will work on the Fairchilds if you remove the

taper shaft

> and install the straight axle. Waco has a problem selling the axle

to none

> Waco users. Still working the issue. I have all the engineering

drawings on

> file.
>
> As for Master Piston seals, NAPA or any good Auto Parts house. May

require a

> special order, 1932 Plymouth Brake masters. The seals and springs

will work,

> will require use of your old Piston, unless you want to cut the new

one in

> half and then reweld (too long). This has been covered many times

in the

> Flyer Tech Tips. Go to Yahoo and look at the Tech Tips Index. In

the process

> of scanning in all the Flyers and will have index that is hyper

text linked

> to each issue, coming in the next CD Rom effort. Otherwise order

paper copy

> from John.
>
> A few members have switched out there Auto style and gone to Bodell

Masters,

> We have the P/Ns for that also. Requires minor bracket rework.
>
> Jamie S. Treat A&P/IA

That is great info, keep up the good work and have a Merry Christams
and a Happy New Year
Tom D.'

[Michael Denest]

'--- Tom_Downey wrote:
[quote] > --- In fairchildclub@y..., jstreat360@a... wrote:
> >
> > They are natural rubber.
> >
> > Jamie S. Treat A&P/IA
>
> Any of the old vegetable based fluids will work too,
> back in the 20's-
> 40's they had a fluid that was basicly "castor oil".
> But it would
> freeze, mix with water and corrode the systems
> components. Yucky
> stuff.
> How many aircraft are running the expander tube
> type brakes? are
> there any after market tubes? Where are you getting
> the seals for the
> master cylinders? NAPA? is there a auto master
> cylinder that
> Fairchild used?
> I got more questions than I have answers at this
> point.
> Tom Downey, spam can mech.

[cliffmccluney@webtv.net]

'Mike, for us new PT folks, could you give us the NAPA number or other
car and year reference for the master cyl kit?

Cliff McCluney
Kerens, TX.'

[Michael Denest]

'--- cliffmccluney@webtv.net wrote:

> Mike, for us new PT folks, could you give us the
> NAPA number or other
> car and year reference for the master cyl kit?
>
> Cliff McCluney
> Kerens, TX.
>
>

I don't have the number right now but I'll post it
when I do.

Mike

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[cliffmccluney@webtv.net]

'thanks,

cliff'

[Pilot4906@aol.com]

'NAPA kit 190 is supposed to fit the PT brakes. Just be sure to use the
correct fluid for those seals.

Gene Haines


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[cliffmccluney@webtv.net]

'I will ck with NAPA.

Thanks,

cliff McCluney'

[Tom_Downey]

'--- In fairchildclub@y..., cliffmccluney@w... wrote:

> I will ck with NAPA.
>
> Thanks,
>
> cliff McCluney

And Remember
NAPA stands for National Aviation Parts Assistance.'