Re: Ranger TBO?

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Scott
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Ranger TBO?

Post by Scott »

'What is the recommended TBO on the 200 HP Ranger?

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Re: Ranger TBO?

Post by jstreat360@aol.com »

'Scott,

Norm is 600 hrs for TBO, 300 hrs for Cyl overhaul. That is the standard for the 175 440-C2. The 200hp 440-C2 will have a higher wear due to higher comp ratio. The best is 190hp. A good tight strong 175 makes it hard to tell the difference between the 200 or 190. There are Rangers that have gone to 2000hrs. Mine has 760 since new, never a cyl off, but I have been lucky. Run them often, keep the oil clean, run them within limits and you will be rewarded. Wonderful engine, smooth, and reliable.

Jamie S. Treat'
Scott
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Re: Ranger TBO?

Post by Scott »

'Ouch! I think the Fairchild has just been removed from my list of 4
seat airplanes ;( I can't afford to overhaul every 6 or 7 years (I try
to average about 100 hours/year). Looks like my list will have to be
narrowed down to a C-170, Aeronca 15AC or a Stinson 108.

Been nice being on this list, but looks like it's time to move on to
something a little more realistic for me.

You guys take care!

Scott


jstreat360@aol.com wrote:
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> Scott,
>
> Norm is 600 hrs for TBO, 300 hrs for Cyl overhaul. That is the standard for the 175 440-C2. The 200hp 440-C2 will have a higher wear due to higher comp ratio. The best is 190hp. A good tight strong 175 makes it hard to tell the difference between the 200 or 190. There are Rangers that have gone to 2000hrs. Mine has 760 since new, never a cyl off, but I have been lucky. Run them often, keep the oil clean, run them within limits and you will be rewarded. Wonderful engine, smooth, and reliable.
>
> Jamie S. Treat
>
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Scott
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Re: Ranger TBO?

Post by EarlN28645@aol.com »

'Scott,

On retirement income, I really can't afford my Fairchild 24 either, but I
wouldn't have any other four -seater. If I find I can't afford to keep my
24, I would go back to a Taylorcraft BC-12D like the one I got my licnese in.

Before you give up on the a 24, fly one!

Earl W. Swaney
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dcasali
Posts: 323
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Re: Ranger TBO?

Post by dcasali »

'Scott,

I'm pretty sure the TBO for a Warner powered Fairchild is about 1000 hrs. Wonderful airplanes.

Dan

Scott wrote:
> Ouch! I think the Fairchild has just been removed from my list of 4
> seat airplanes ;( I can't afford to overhaul every 6 or 7 years (I try
> to average about 100 hours/year). Looks like my list will have to be
> narrowed down to a C-170, Aeronca 15AC or a Stinson 108.
>
> Been nice being on this list, but looks like it's time to move on to
> something a little more realistic for me.
>
> You guys take care!
>
> Scott
>
> jstreat360@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > Norm is 600 hrs for TBO, 300 hrs for Cyl overhaul. That is the standard for the 175 440-C2. The 200hp 440-C2 will have a higher wear due to higher comp ratio. The best is 190hp. A good tight strong 175 makes it hard to tell the difference between the 200 or 190. There are Rangers that have gone to 2000hrs. Mine has 760 since new, never a cyl off, but I have been lucky. Run them often, keep the oil clean, run them within limits and you will be rewarded. Wonderful engine, smooth, and reliable.
> >
> > Jamie S. Treat
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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> >
> >
> >
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> --
> Scott
> http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
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jstreat360@aol.com
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Re: Ranger TBO?

Post by jstreat360@aol.com »

'Dan,

Hope for a thousand, plan on 600. Chances are if it was operated often, serviced reg, it will make 1000 and more.

Jamie'
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Re: Ranger TBO?

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'They do fly sweet.'
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Re: Ranger TBO?

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'They do fly sweet.'
Michael Denest
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Re: Ranger TBO?

Post by Michael Denest »

'--- jstreat360@aol.com wrote:
> They do fly sweet.
>
Jamie,

Since we are talking Ranger engines here, what is your
view on the modification of the drilled pistons and
inverted ring for improving the oil consumption? It
is an unapproved modification to the engine. Although
the method is covered by a Service Bulletin for the
Menasco and has been successful for that engine, there
nothing documented that says it should work for the
Ranger.


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Re: Ranger TBO?

Post by jstreat360@aol.com »

'Michael,

I know of the mod, Tom Goodlett of Alverado, Texas created the Machine
Templet to drill the pistons. I believe Ed Wegner has a set also. And I'm
pretty sure Ed's 440-C5 has the mod. I don't see a problem with doing the
mod. I do not believe in doing the Olds Ring installation. In fact, I'm going
to pick up a spare 440-C5 this Dec. The person that did the overhaul
attempted to get a snug fit with the Olds rings to reduce oil consumption,
well it worked, right up to about 5 hours and it made metal. I will do the
mod to the two engines that I'm going to pick up and overhaul. The rest of
the engine will be stock, with minor clean up on the flow. To me oil is
cheap, if you can't afford the expense, find an airplane with a brand new
shinny flat Lyc. The Ranger was designed to use oil, fact. Two qts an hour is
OK with me. I get a kick out of seeing these young kids with there shinny new
spam cans watching me do an oil change/refill on the flight line. So what if
I start off with a case of oil under the rear seat, it only gets lighter as
the trip continues on.

As for documentation, I would be careful doing the logbooks. What the FAA
does not know will not hurt them, but you did not see me write this.

Take care,

Give my best to your Dad. Any word on Carl's PT. Marshall Freidman is in love
with his 24W46 that he got from the estate. Just going thru the dial mode on
the Aeromatic.


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