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PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:02 pm
by ccmueller001
'According to the STC for the PT-26 it should have a Ranger L-440-C-5 engine (200 hp) installed. Looking things over closely I find I have the -2 (175 hp) engine installed. Phooey!

Two questions:

Is there a 337 out there for using the -2 engine? I would prefer the additional 25 hp as I fly out of a 1700 ft strip with lots of orchards all around, though the elevation is just 175 ft MSL. But avoiding engine work at this time would be nice too.

And: what is involved in converting a -2 to a -5 engine? Is it just pistons?

Any input will be appreciated.

Charles'

Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:21 pm
by Curt Kinchen
'It's likely that your -2 engine isn't and really is a 200HP. The difference
between 175 and 200 HP is the domed pistons bumping the compression ratio
and the ignition timing(25BTC for the 200 vs 22 for the 175). If you have a
Stromberg carb the settings are different.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, ccmueller001 wrote:

> **
>
>
> According to the STC for the PT-26 it should have a Ranger L-440-C-5 engine
> (200 hp) installed. Looking things over closely I find I have the -2 (175
> hp) engine installed. Phooey!
>
> Two questions:
>
> Is there a 337 out there for using the -2 engine? I would prefer the
> additional 25 hp as I fly out of a 1700 ft strip with lots of orchards all
> around, though the elevation is just 175 ft MSL. But avoiding engine work at
> this time would be nice too.
>
> And: what is involved in converting a -2 to a -5 engine? Is it just
> pistons?
>
> Any input will be appreciated.
>
> Charles
>
>
>



--
Curt Kinchen
ptcurt@gmail.com


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Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:33 am
by ccmueller001
'I just checked for a domed piston (with a carefully bent coat hanger through a spark plug hole) and found a domed piston. It appears to have about a 3/8" rise from side to center. Is this about right for a 200 hp (-5 Ranger) engine?

Perhaps I have a 6-440C-5 engine with a 6-440C-2 data plate?

Any suggestions on which way to go from here (to keep the faa happy and not asking my mechanic to stick his neck out)?

Charles

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Curt Kinchen wrote:
>
> It's likely that your -2 engine isn't and really is a 200HP. The difference
> between 175 and 200 HP is the domed pistons bumping the compression ratio
> and the ignition timing(25BTC for the 200 vs 22 for the 175). If you have a
> Stromberg carb the settings are different.
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, ccmueller001 wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > According to the STC for the PT-26 it should have a Ranger L-440-C-5 engine
> > (200 hp) installed. Looking things over closely I find I have the -2 (175
> > hp) engine installed. Phooey!
> >
> > Two questions:
> >
> > Is there a 337 out there for using the -2 engine? I would prefer the
> > additional 25 hp as I fly out of a 1700 ft strip with lots of orchards all
> > around, though the elevation is just 175 ft MSL. But avoiding engine work at
> > this time would be nice too.
> >
> > And: what is involved in converting a -2 to a -5 engine? Is it just
> > pistons?
> >
> > Any input will be appreciated.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Kinchen
> ptcurt@...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:03 pm
by Gene Haines
'There should be an entry in the engine log if the engine has non standard piston for the 175 HP Ranger..





-----Original Message-----
From: ccmueller001
To: fairchildclub
Sent: Fri, Sep 16, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger




I just checked for a domed piston (with a carefully bent coat hanger through a spark plug hole) and found a domed piston. It appears to have about a 3/8" rise from side to center. Is this about right for a 200 hp (-5 Ranger) engine?

Perhaps I have a 6-440C-5 engine with a 6-440C-2 data plate?

Any suggestions on which way to go from here (to keep the faa happy and not asking my mechanic to stick his neck out)?

Charles
--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Curt Kinchen wrote:
>
> It's likely that your -2 engine isn't and really is a 200HP. The difference
> between 175 and 200 HP is the domed pistons bumping the compression ratio
> and the ignition timing(25BTC for the 200 vs 22 for the 175). If you have a
> Stromberg carb the settings are different.
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, ccmueller001 wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > According to the STC for the PT-26 it should have a Ranger L-440-C-5 engine
> > (200 hp) installed. Looking things over closely I find I have the -2 (175
> > hp) engine installed. Phooey!
> >
> > Two questions:
> >
> > Is there a 337 out there for using the -2 engine? I would prefer the
> > additional 25 hp as I fly out of a 1700 ft strip with lots of orchards all
> > around, though the elevation is just 175 ft MSL. But avoiding engine work at
> > this time would be nice too.
> >
> > And: what is involved in converting a -2 to a -5 engine? Is it just
> > pistons?
> >
> > Any input will be appreciated.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Kinchen
> ptcurt@...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







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Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:54 pm
by Cy Galley
'You are an optimist!



From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gene Haines
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:04 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger





There should be an entry in the engine log if the engine has non standard piston for the 175 HP Ranger..

-----Original Message-----
From: ccmueller001
To: fairchildclub
Sent: Fri, Sep 16, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger

I just checked for a domed piston (with a carefully bent coat hanger through a spark plug hole) and found a domed piston. It appears to have about a 3/8" rise from side to center. Is this about right for a 200 hp (-5 Ranger) engine?

Perhaps I have a 6-440C-5 engine with a 6-440C-2 data plate?

Any suggestions on which way to go from here (to keep the faa happy and not asking my mechanic to stick his neck out)?

Charles
--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com , Curt Kinchen wrote:
>
> It's likely that your -2 engine isn't and really is a 200HP. The difference
> between 175 and 200 HP is the domed pistons bumping the compression ratio
> and the ignition timing(25BTC for the 200 vs 22 for the 175). If you have a
> Stromberg carb the settings are different.
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, ccmueller001 wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > According to the STC for the PT-26 it should have a Ranger L-440-C-5 engine
> > (200 hp) installed. Looking things over closely I find I have the -2 (175
> > hp) engine installed. Phooey!
> >
> > Two questions:
> >
> > Is there a 337 out there for using the -2 engine? I would prefer the
> > additional 25 hp as I fly out of a 1700 ft strip with lots of orchards all
> > around, though the elevation is just 175 ft MSL. But avoiding engine work at
> > this time would be nice too.
> >
> > And: what is involved in converting a -2 to a -5 engine? Is it just
> > pistons?
> >
> > Any input will be appreciated.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Kinchen
> ptcurt@...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:04 pm
by Michael Denest
'I believe Sgt. Schultz said it best.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ag4nkSh7Q


 
Mike Denest





________________________________
From: Cy Galley
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 2:54 PM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger


 
You are an optimist!

From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gene Haines
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:04 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger

There should be an entry in the engine log if the engine has non standard piston for the 175 HP Ranger..

-----Original Message-----
From: ccmueller001
To: fairchildclub
Sent: Fri, Sep 16, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger

I just checked for a domed piston (with a carefully bent coat hanger through a spark plug hole) and found a domed piston. It appears to have about a 3/8" rise from side to center. Is this about right for a 200 hp (-5 Ranger) engine?

Perhaps I have a 6-440C-5 engine with a 6-440C-2 data plate?

Any suggestions on which way to go from here (to keep the faa happy and not asking my mechanic to stick his neck out)?

Charles
--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com , Curt Kinchen wrote:
>
> It's likely that your -2 engine isn't and really is a 200HP. The difference
> between 175 and 200 HP is the domed pistons bumping the compression ratio
> and the ignition timing(25BTC for the 200 vs 22 for the 175). If you have a
> Stromberg carb the settings are different.
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, ccmueller001 wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > According to the STC for the PT-26 it should have a Ranger L-440-C-5 engine
> > (200 hp) installed. Looking things over closely I find I have the -2 (175
> > hp) engine installed. Phooey!
> >
> > Two questions:
> >
> > Is there a 337 out there for using the -2 engine? I would prefer the
> > additional 25 hp as I fly out of a 1700 ft strip with lots of orchards all
> > around, though the elevation is just 175 ft MSL. But avoiding engine work at
> > this time would be nice too.
> >
> > And: what is involved in converting a -2 to a -5 engine? Is it just
> > pistons?
> >
> > Any input will be appreciated.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Kinchen
> ptcurt@...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:44 pm
by ccmueller001
'Schultz was right - nothing found in the log books.
--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Michael Denest wrote:
>
> I believe Sgt. Schultz said it best.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ag4nkSh7Q
>
>
>  
> Mike Denest
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Cy Galley
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 2:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger
>
>
>  
> You are an optimist!
>
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gene Haines
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:04 PM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger
>
> There should be an entry in the engine log if the engine has non standard piston for the 175 HP Ranger..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ccmueller001
> To: fairchildclub
> Sent: Fri, Sep 16, 2011 12:34 pm
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: PT-26 with 175 hp Ranger
>
> I just checked for a domed piston (with a carefully bent coat hanger through a spark plug hole) and found a domed piston. It appears to have about a 3/8" rise from side to center. Is this about right for a 200 hp (-5 Ranger) engine?
>
> Perhaps I have a 6-440C-5 engine with a 6-440C-2 data plate?
>
> Any suggestions on which way to go from here (to keep the faa happy and not asking my mechanic to stick his neck out)?
>
> Charles
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com , Curt Kinchen wrote:
> >
> > It's likely that your -2 engine isn't and really is a 200HP. The difference
> > between 175 and 200 HP is the domed pistons bumping the compression ratio
> > and the ignition timing(25BTC for the 200 vs 22 for the 175). If you have a
> > Stromberg carb the settings are different.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, ccmueller001 wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > According to the STC for the PT-26 it should have a Ranger L-440-C-5 engine
> > > (200 hp) installed. Looking things over closely I find I have the -2 (175
> > > hp) engine installed. Phooey!
> > >
> > > Two questions:
> > >
> > > Is there a 337 out there for using the -2 engine? I would prefer the
> > > additional 25 hp as I fly out of a 1700 ft strip with lots of orchards all
> > > around, though the elevation is just 175 ft MSL. But avoiding engine work at
> > > this time would be nice too.
> > >
> > > And: what is involved in converting a -2 to a -5 engine? Is it just
> > > pistons?
> > >
> > > Any input will be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Charles
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Curt Kinchen
> > ptcurt@
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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