Re: Stuck exhaust valve (Ranger)

Tom Downey · Post by **Tom Downey** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:45 am

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Sorry for the inconvenience

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JOHN · Post by **JOHN** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:55 pm

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On Behalf Of Tom Downey
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:46 AM
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Subject: [fairchildclub] Address Book

Due to my computer crash, and replacement of the gizzmo what remembers
these things, my e-mail address book is blank. If you wish to be
included in my address file please send me a E-mail and I'll pick you
up.

Sorry for the inconvenience

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Buell Powell · Post by **Buell Powell** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:14 pm

'Hi John,
Please put my address back in your computer.
Thanks,
Buell Powell

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John Berendt · Post by **John Berendt** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:58 am

'Tom,
The clubs address is fchld@rconnect.com.
John Berendt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Downey"
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Subject: [fairchildclub] Address Book

> Due to my computer crash, and replacement of the gizzmo what remembers
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J. E. Miller · Post by **J. E. Miller** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:14 am

'Please add me to your address list. Thanks, Joe.

----- Original Message -----
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To:
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Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Address Book

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> On Behalf Of Tom Downey
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:46 AM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Address Book
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> Due to my computer crash, and replacement of the gizzmo what remembers
> these things, my e-mail address book is blank. If you wish to be
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> up.
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> Sorry for the inconvenience
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harry hayman · Post by **harry hayman** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:48 pm

'Has anyone out there in Ranger country come up with a
way to free up a stuck Ranger exhaust valve without
dismantling thr engine?
Thanx in advance.
Harry

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John Amundsen · Post by **John Amundsen** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:36 pm

'I ran some Marvel Mystery Oil in the crankcase for about five hours hard, as well as the same oil in the gasoline, 4 oz per 10 gal. That didn't immediately free it up so I took the cam cover off and staked the valves. That freed up the valves and I haven't had trouble since. I'm sure there are some others out there that can give you some more detailed advice.

----- Original Message -----
From: harry hayman
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 5:48 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Stuck exhaust valve (Ranger)

Has anyone out there in Ranger country come up with a
way to free up a stuck Ranger exhaust valve without
dismantling thr engine?
Thanx in advance.
Harry

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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Address Book
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> > Due to my computer crash, and replacement of the
> gizzmo what remembers
> > these things, my e-mail address book is blank. If
> you wish to be
> > included in my address file please send me a
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robert Etter · Post by **robert Etter** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:24 am

'I don't know if this will help you. It is my experience with a 180 hp
Franklin having the same problem, sort of. I only had 3 exhaust valves in
various stages of sticking.

I pulled the valve cover off, and the rocker arm assembly off. Then
removed the bottom sparkplug, to gain access to the exhaust valve stem from
inside the cylinder. Since the valve was stuck the next part was fairly
easy. I remove the valve spring keeper and springs from the valve. I then
started tapping the valve with the butt of a screw driver, to move it back
into the cylinder. Once I got the tip of the valve flush with the valve
guide, I reached through the sparkplug hole and grabbed the valve stem with
a set of mechanical fingers (two finger variety) so I would have some
control of the valve should I drive the stem completely out of the valve
guide.

What I found was the inside of the valve guide was coated with a thin
crust of burnt oil. It had a dark amber/brown look to it. I then took a
pair of tweezers that had a well rounded tip on it, and rubbed it over the
crust with a moderate pressure and was able to break up the crust. I used
just enough pressure to break the crust and used a rounded tool so I
wouldn't scratch the valve guide or remove any metal.

For further information, I tried Marvel Mystery Oil, and about every
idea that any one would come up with. The colder the motor was, the worse
they stuck. Over time, it only got worse. I did make a fixture that I
bolted to the head that enabled me to collapse the valve springs so I could
get the keepers off.

After I got to the point that I knew what I was doing, it took
approximately 1 hour from start to finish to free up one exhaust valve.

Bob Etter
PO Box 974
Tonopah, NV 89049
775-482-6820
rletter@citlink.net'

harry hayman · Post by **harry hayman** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:03 pm

'Bob, Thanx so very much your sharing the info on
sticking valve's.The Ranger is different than the
Franklin,it does not have individual valve covers,ect.
It is an inline inverted engine.
Thanx again
Harry
PS if you already know this I am not trying yo insult
your intelligence

--- Robert Etter wrote:

> I don't know if this will help you. It is my
> experience with a 180 hp
> Franklin having the same problem, sort of. I only
> had 3 exhaust valves in
> various stages of sticking.
>
> I pulled the valve cover off, and the rocker arm
> assembly off. Then
> removed the bottom sparkplug, to gain access to the
> exhaust valve stem from
> inside the cylinder. Since the valve was stuck the
> next part was fairly
> easy. I remove the valve spring keeper and springs
> from the valve. I then
> started tapping the valve with the butt of a screw
> driver, to move it back
> into the cylinder. Once I got the tip of the valve
> flush with the valve
> guide, I reached through the sparkplug hole and
> grabbed the valve stem with
> a set of mechanical fingers (two finger variety) so
> I would have some
> control of the valve should I drive the stem
> completely out of the valve
> guide.
>
> What I found was the inside of the valve guide
> was coated with a thin
> crust of burnt oil. It had a dark amber/brown look
> to it. I then took a
> pair of tweezers that had a well rounded tip on it,
> and rubbed it over the
> crust with a moderate pressure and was able to break
> up the crust. I used
> just enough pressure to break the crust and used a
> rounded tool so I
> wouldn't scratch the valve guide or remove any
> metal.
>
> For further information, I tried Marvel Mystery
> Oil, and about every
> idea that any one would come up with. The colder
> the motor was, the worse
> they stuck. Over time, it only got worse. I did
> make a fixture that I
> bolted to the head that enabled me to collapse the
> valve springs so I could
> get the keepers off.
>
> After I got to the point that I knew what I was
> doing, it took
> approximately 1 hour from start to finish to free up
> one exhaust valve.
>
> Bob Etter
> PO Box 974
> Tonopah, NV 89049
> 775-482-6820
> rletter@citlink.net
>
>

Harry Hayman
Phone 904-284-4276
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harry hayman · Post by **harry hayman** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:14 pm

'Hi John,
thanx for the info.I have a short nose fairchild and
the oil pump is jam up against the firewall,removing
the cam cover and resealing where the oilpump and the
cam cover matw is a bear.I have done this before,I do
pretty good for 78 year's old but working upside down
really is not my most favorite thing.But it looks like
the lesser of the evil's so in the AM I'll get
started.Have a good one,
Harry

--- John Amundsen wrote:

> I ran some Marvel Mystery Oil in the crankcase for
> about five hours hard, as well as the same oil in
> the gasoline, 4 oz per 10 gal. That didn't
> immediately free it up so I took the cam cover off
> and staked the valves. That freed up the valves and
> I haven't had trouble since. I'm sure there are
> some others out there that can give you some more
> detailed advice.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: harry hayman
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 5:48 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Stuck exhaust valve
> (Ranger)
>
>
> Has anyone out there in Ranger country come up
> with a
> way to free up a stuck Ranger exhaust valve
> without
> dismantling thr engine?
> Thanx in advance.
> Harry
>
>
>
> --- "J. E. Miller" wrote:
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> > Please add me to your address list. Thanks,
> Joe.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JOHN"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 4:55 PM
> > Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Address Book
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> > > On Behalf Of Tom Downey
> > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:46 AM
> > > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [fairchildclub] Address Book
> > >
> > > Due to my computer crash, and replacement of
> the
> > gizzmo what remembers
> > > these things, my e-mail address book is blank.
> If
> > you wish to be
> > > included in my address file please send me a
> > E-mail and I'll pick you
> > > up.
> > >
> > > Sorry for the inconvenience
> > >
> > > Tom Downey ias*whidbey.net
> > >
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