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Posted: **Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:26 am**

'
Good Morning! I am a new member to this forum. I purchased PT 19 N60109 in October 2017. I have tried to remove the propeller to send to Sensenich for balancing and refinishing. I removed the clevis pin from the large nut and removed the prop nut using a 4' 7/8" breaker bar, (no issues). However, at this point I am unable to determine my next step. I have read other comments regarding prop removal but am confused how to proceed. I have a number of service manuals relating to the PT, but cannot reference any step instructions or tutorials on this subject. I have read, on this Forum, that by removing the large prop nut the prop should back away and off the prop shaft, is this correct? I removed the large prop nut, the prop hub did not budge. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Michael Drebo
gdrebo@yahoo.com
832 691-0911
'

Posted: **Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:00 am**

'If the nut didn't pull the prop hub off the shaft that means it doesn't have the snap ring installed that goes in the groove on the nut and in the hub. Not an issue other than it does help in removal.
My first PT came that way and I ended up, eventually finding and installing a snap ring. But for the first prop removal I recall we just worked the prop off by wiggling each prop end to free the hub on the splines.
Curt

On Feb 4, 2018 12:26 PM, "gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub]" wrote:

Good Morning! I am a new member to this forum. I purchased PT 19 N60109 in October 2017. I have tried to remove the propeller to send to Sensenich for balancing and refinishing. I removed the clevis pin from the large nut and removed the prop nut using a 4' 7/8" breaker bar, (no issues). However, at this point I am unable to determine my next step. I have read other comments regarding prop removal but am confused how to proceed. I have a number of service manuals relating to the PT, but cannot reference any step instructions or tutorials on this subject. I have read, on this Forum, that by removing the large prop nut the prop should back away and off the prop shaft, is this correct? I removed the large prop nut, the prop hub did not budge. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Michael Drebo
gdrebo@yahoo.com
832 691-0911

'

Posted: **Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:55 am**

'Curt,
Thanks for the explanation. It is starting to make sense to me. Do you happen to have a source/AN # for snap ring?
Thanks,
Michael Drebo832 691-0911
'

Posted: **Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:37 pm**

'They used to be fairly common at prop shops, but I don't know how many are hanging about. Maybe check with Air Repair. I put the hub AN spec in the group files, but don't recall if the snap ring is called out.

On Feb 4, 2018 1:55 PM, "gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub]" wrote:

Curt,
Thanks for the explanation. It is starting to make sense to me. Do you happen to have a source/AN # for snap ring?
Thanks,
Michael Drebo832 691-0911

'

Posted: **Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:44 pm**

'
I think I have the specs for all the hubs, cones, spacers, nuts and snap rings on my computer at work. I'll check tonight when I get in and can post the info in the morning when I get home.
Craig Cantwell
AT-21 S/N 42-48053

On 02/04/2018 12:37 PM, Curt Kinchen ptcurt@gmail.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

They used to be fairly common at prop shops, but I don't know how many are hanging about. Maybe check with Air Repair. I put the hub AN spec in the group files, but don't recall if the snap ring is called out.

On Feb 4, 2018 1:55 PM, "gdrebo@yahoo.com [fairchildclub]" wrote:
Curt,
Thanks for the explanation.. It is starting to make sense to me. Do you happen to have a source/AN # for snap ring?
Thanks,
Michael Drebo 832 691-0911

'

Posted: **Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:28 pm**

'Mike:

If you had a snap rin, that holds the prop nut in the hub. Turning the nut to loosen it then acts like a pully puller and backs the hub off the shaft.

Keep 'Em Flying!

Mike Kelly

________________________________________
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 11:26 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] PT 19 Propeller Removal

Good Morning! I am a new member to this forum. I purchased PT 19 N60109 in October 2017. I have tried to remove the propeller to send to Sensenich for balancing and refinishing. I removed the clevis pin from the large nut and removed the prop nut using a 4' 7/8" breaker bar, (no issues). However, at this point I am unable to determine my next step. I have read other comments regarding prop removal but am confused how to proceed. I have a number of service manuals relating to the PT, but cannot reference any step instructions or tutorials on this subject. I have read, on this Forum, that by removing the large prop nut the prop should back away and off the prop shaft, is this correct? I removed the large prop nut, the prop hub did not budge. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Michael Drebo

gdrebo@yahoo.com

832 691-0911'

Posted: **Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:15 am**

'it is not just the snap ring! the hub may be the kind that does not use one . also the nut must have the groove as well as the hub for the snap ring. look on the hub for a tag " Warner and the number"one type uses the snap ring one doesn't[ I think the 79XX uses the snap; the 85..or 88.. doesn't]. I may have both for the warner that uses the long nut with the snap ring. If you have the short nut I do not have either. the nut without the groove may be used for either snap or no snap but for a snap ring both hub and nut must have the groove use the snap rig . the hub will also have a split front cone that is kept in place by the ring and the one that doesn't have the snap and groove do not use a front cone[talking about warner hubs only]. make sure to put a small amount of shell #5 great on the spline before replacing the prop and lightning.Thread lube ask also.
I think fresno is out of the nuts and rings.
--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 2/4/18, Curt Kinchen ptcurt@gmail.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] PT 19 Propeller Removal
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 4, 2018, 1:37 PM

They used to be fairly common at prop
shops, but I don't know how many are hanging about.
Maybe check with Air Repair. I put the hub AN spec in
the group files, but don't recall if the snap ring is
called out.

On Feb 4, 2018 1:55 PM,
"gdrebo@yahoo.com
[fairchildclub]" wrote:

Curt,
Thanks for the explanation.. It is
starting to make sense to me. Do you happen to have a
source/AN # for snap ring?
Thanks,
Michael Drebo832 691-0911

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Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:16 am**

'All,

Thanks for the great information! The prop nut does have the groove to accept the snap ring, but no snap ring is present. I’m going to the airport later this week and will inspect the hub for the matching groove and tag name and number. As Curt explained, I will attempt to wiggle the prop from the spline. I appreciate all the help.

Michael Drebo
832 691-0911
--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 2/5/18, Terry Gardner gtg15751@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] PT 19 Propeller Removal
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 5, 2018, 1:15 PM

it is not just the snap ring! the hub may be the
kind that does not use one . also the nut must have the
groove as well as the hub for the snap ring. look on the hub
for a tag " Warner and the number"one type uses
the snap ring one doesn't[ I think the 79XX uses the
snap; the 85..or 88.. doesn't]. I may have both for the
warner that uses the long nut with the snap ring. If you
have the short nut I do not have either. the nut without the
groove may be used for either snap or no snap but for a snap
ring both hub and nut must have the groove use the snap rig
. the hub will also have a split front cone that is kept in
place by the ring and the one that doesn't have the snap
and groove do not use a front cone[talking about warner hubs
only]. make sure to put a small amount of shell #5 great on
the spline before replacing the prop and lightning.Thread
lube ask also.

I think fresno is out of the nuts and rings.

--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 2/4/18, Curt Kinchen ptcurt@gmail.com
[fairchildclub]
wrote:

Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] PT 19 Propeller Removal

To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

Date: Sunday, February 4, 2018, 1:37 PM

They used to be fairly common at prop

shops, but I don't know how many are hanging
about.

Maybe check with Air Repair. I put the hub AN spec
in

the group files, but don't recall if the snap ring
is

called out.

On Feb 4, 2018 1:55 PM,

"gdrebo@yahoo.com

[fairchildclub]" wrote:

Curt,

Thanks for the explanation.. It is

starting to make sense to me. Do you happen to have a

source/AN # for snap ring?

Thanks,

Michael Drebo832 691-0911

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