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Posted: **Wed May 04, 2016 7:38 am**

'Hi AllI know over the years I have seen emails back and forth about Hayes Brake parts for the F24 and PT airplanes.I would like to know if anyone has current Hayes or NAPA part numbers for the Bleeder Screw, "Banjo Fitting" and all the gaskets and seals associated with the Hayes brake system.I have brake pucks and springs and quite a few frames. but all the fitting and seals are non airworthy.
for reference:UC-61 Illustrated parts manual AN01-115CA-4 Figure 30 items 3 through 16PT Illustrated parts manual AN01-115GA-4 Figure 35 items 3 through 20
With this information, I will compile an up to date list for the club to use.
thanks
JIM ChybickiMidwest Aeronautiques LLCUC-61K USAAF# 43-14964 / RAF # HB690RampRatOne-at-yahoo-dot-com

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Posted: **Wed May 04, 2016 8:41 am**

'I come from the SuperCub world, where almost everyone has abandoned the OEM brakes and wheels for newer styles. Cleveland brakes and wheels, and brake boosters manufactured by several companies, are pretty much the standard. At the risk of seeming a blasphemer, why do people stick with the old Hayes brakes? I'm not trying to take a poke at anyone, or to be provocative - this is part of the educational process for a new F24 owner.'

Posted: **Wed May 04, 2016 9:11 am**

'The copper gaskets for the banjo fitting are available in any quantity from Amazon. I just bought about 30, just for spares. You will need to know the right size in metric. From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 6:37 AM
To: yahoogroups
Subject: [fairchildclub] Hayes Brake Parts

Hi AllI know over the years I have seen emails back and forth about Hayes Brake parts for the F24 and PT airplanes.I would like to know if anyone has current Hayes or NAPA part numbers for the Bleeder Screw, "Banjo Fitting" and all the gaskets and seals associated with the Hayes brake system.I have brake pucks and springs and quite a few frames. but all the fitting and seals are non airworthy. for reference:UC-61 Illustrated parts manual AN01-115CA-4 Figure 30 items 3 through 16PT Illustrated parts manual AN01-115GA-4 Figure 35 items 3 through 20 With this information, I will compile an up to date list for the club to use. thanks JIM ChybickiMidwest Aeronautiques LLCUC-61K USAAF# 43-14964 / RAF # HB690RampRatOne-at-yahoo-dot-com

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Posted: **Wed May 04, 2016 9:56 am**

'As long as you have ordered them maybe you could tell everyone the sizes in metric that you ordered.

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Fritz' avdflyr@cox.net [fairchildclub]
To: fairchildclub
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2016 11:12 am
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Hayes Brake Parts

The copper gaskets for the banjo fitting are available in any quantity from Amazon. I just bought about 30, just for spares. You will need to know the right size in metric. From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com?]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 6:37 AM
To: yahoogroups
Subject: [fairchildclub] Hayes Brake Parts

Hi All I know over the years I have seen emails back and forth about Hayes Brake parts for the F24 and PT airplanes. I would like to know if anyone has current Hayes or NAPA part numbers for the Bleeder Screw, "Banjo Fitting" and all the gaskets and seals associated with the Hayes brake system. I have brake pucks and springs and quite a few frames. but all the fitting and seals are non airworthy. for reference: UC-61 Illustrated parts manual AN01-115CA-4 Figure 30 items 3 through 16 PT Illustrated parts manual AN01-115GA-4 Figure 35 items 3 through 20 With this information, I will compile an up to date list for the club to use. thanks JIM Chybicki Midwest Aeronautiques LLC UC-61K USAAF# 43-14964 / RAF # HB690 RampRatOne-at-yahoo-dot-com

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Posted: **Wed May 04, 2016 11:39 am**

'any descriptions or reference numbers you can share?

From: "'Fritz' avdflyr@cox.net [fairchildclub]"
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Hayes Brake Parts

The copper gaskets for the banjo fitting are available in any quantity from Amazon. I just bought about 30, just for spares. You will need to know the right size in metric. From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 6:37 AM
To: yahoogroups
Subject: [fairchildclub] Hayes Brake Parts

Hi AllI know over the years I have seen emails back and forth about Hayes Brake parts for the F24 and PT airplanes.I would like to know if anyone has current Hayes or NAPA part numbers for the Bleeder Screw, "Banjo Fitting" and all the gaskets and seals associated with the Hayes brake system.I have brake pucks and springs and quite a few frames. but all the fitting and seals are non airworthy. for reference:UC-61 Illustrated parts manual AN01-115CA-4 Figure 30 items 3 through 16PT Illustrated parts manual AN01-115GA-4 Figure 35 items 3 through 20 With this information, I will compile an up to date list for the club to use. thanks JIM ChybickiMidwest Aeronautiques LLCUC-61K USAAF# 43-14964 / RAF # HB690RampRatOne-at-yahoo-dot-com

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Posted: **Wed May 04, 2016 2:31 pm**

'The Kit for the master cylinder at NAPA is 7 47730 08109 0. Bleeder screw is 6848. Copper washer 1246. I took that information from an old sales receipt. You may go to NAPA on line and find the dimensions. A short section of solid rubber vaccuum line works good for the nozzle packing.If you can find the information, there was 2 versions of the Hayes wheel assembles. One had the "lining retracting clips" and the other didn't. I have examples of both. The second version used what appeared to be Goodyear Plyobond (maybe spelled wrong) rubber cement to glue the brake blocks to the expander tube and didn't use clips. There wasn't slots for the clips.I can get anyone the numbers, if you want.Bob

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 10:39 AM, "james chybicki rampratone@yahoo.com [fairchildclub]" wrote:

any descriptions or reference numbers you can share?

From: "'Fritz' avdflyr@cox.net [fairchildclub]"
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Hayes Brake Parts

The copper gaskets for the banjo fitting are available in any quantity from Amazon. I just bought about 30, just for spares. You will need to know the right size in metric. From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 6:37 AM
To: yahoogroups
Subject: [fairchildclub] Hayes Brake Parts

Hi AllI know over the years I have seen emails back and forth about Hayes Brake parts for the F24 and PT airplanes.I would like to know if anyone has current Hayes or NAPA part numbers for the Bleeder Screw, "Banjo Fitting" and all the gaskets and seals associated with the Hayes brake system.I have brake pucks and springs and quite a few frames. but all the fitting and seals are non airworthy. for reference:UC-61 Illustrated parts manual AN01-115CA-4 Figure 30 items 3 through 16PT Illustrated parts manual AN01-115GA-4 Figure 35 items 3 through 20 With this information, I will compile an up to date list for the club to use. thanks JIM ChybickiMidwest Aeronautiques LLCUC-61K USAAF# 43-14964 / RAF # HB690RampRatOne-at-yahoo-dot-com

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Posted: **Wed May 04, 2016 7:22 pm**

'I use Napa kit # 1 for the master brake cylinders.

Sent from my iPad

On May 4, 2016, at 9:37 AM, james chybicki rampratone@yahoo.com [fairchildclub] wrote:

Hi AllI know over the years I have seen emails back and forth about Hayes Brake parts for the F24 and PT airplanes.I would like to know if anyone has current Hayes or NAPA part numbers for the Bleeder Screw, "Banjo Fitting" and all the gaskets and seals associated with the Hayes brake system.I have brake pucks and springs and quite a few frames. but all the fitting and seals are non airworthy.
for reference:UC-61 Illustrated parts manual AN01-115CA-4 Figure 30 items 3 through 16PT Illustrated parts manual AN01-115GA-4 Figure 35 items 3 through 20
With this information, I will compile an up to date list for the club to use.
thanks
JIM ChybickiMidwest Aeronautiques LLCUC-61K USAAF# 43-14964 / RAF # HB690RampRatOne-at-yahoo-dot-com

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Posted: **Wed May 04, 2016 7:39 pm**

'I checked my records for the banjo copper washers, and the numbers are as follows; I ordered all of these through AMAZON.COM Large copper washer (is smooth surface but the banjo will make the serrations)15mm,… made by DMI, and another by SUR&R AUTO PARTSI got 20 for $10.26 Smaller copper washer (also smooth)13mm x 18mm x 1.5mmSource for Amazon was UX CELLI got 20 for $6.00 From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 10:40 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Hayes Brake Parts

any descriptions or reference numbers you can share? From: "'Fritz' avdflyr@cox.net [fairchildclub]"
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Hayes Brake Parts The copper gaskets for the banjo fitting are available in any quantity from Amazon. I just bought about 30, just for spares. You will need to know the right size in metric. From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 6:37 AM
To: yahoogroups
Subject: [fairchildclub] Hayes Brake Parts

Hi AllI know over the years I have seen emails back and forth about Hayes Brake parts for the F24 and PT airplanes.I would like to know if anyone has current Hayes or NAPA part numbers for the Bleeder Screw, "Banjo Fitting" and all the gaskets and seals associated with the Hayes brake system.I have brake pucks and springs and quite a few frames. but all the fitting and seals are non airworthy. for reference:UC-61 Illustrated parts manual AN01-115CA-4 Figure 30 items 3 through 16PT Illustrated parts manual AN01-115GA-4 Figure 35 items 3 through 20 With this information, I will compile an up to date list for the club to use. thanks JIM ChybickiMidwest Aeronautiques LLCUC-61K USAAF# 43-14964 / RAF # HB690RampRatOne-at-yahoo-dot-com

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Posted: **Wed May 04, 2016 8:52 pm**

'Hi EricOur restoration is a 1943 WW2 veteran that is going to be flown to airshows (EAA Airventrue, Thundrer over MI.) we are trying to make it as close to original as possible for Judging purposes. I would much rather have a "better" system installed, but I know that will weigh heavily on the judging.
Jim

From: "ericgoss991@yahoo.com [fairchildclub]"
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 9:41 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Hayes Brake Parts

I come from the SuperCub world, where almost everyone has abandoned the OEM brakes and wheels for newer styles. Cleveland brakes and wheels, and brake boosters manufactured by several companies, are pretty much the standard. At the risk of seeming a blasphemer, why do people stick with the old Hayes brakes? 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Posted: **Wed May 04, 2016 9:11 pm**

'Jim, Just for the info and record. Installation of modern brakes does not impact the scoring of the aircraft by the judges at the EAA events. Safety comes first. Brakes, shoulder harness, modern seat belts, Elts and such are allowed. Hiding them does present better. Esp ELTs and RCPI switch. JST From: ]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 11:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: Hayes Brake Parts Hi EricOur restoration is a 1943 WW2 veteran that is going to be flown to airshows (EAA Airventrue, Thundrer over MI.) we are trying to make it as close to original as possible for Judging purposes. I would much rather have a "better" system installed, but I know that will weigh heavily on the judging. Jim From: "
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 9:41 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Hayes Brake Parts I come from the SuperCub world, where almost everyone has abandoned the OEM brakes and wheels for newer styles. Cleveland brakes and wheels, and brake boosters manufactured by several companies, are pretty much the standard. At the risk of seeming a blasphemer, why do people stick with the old Hayes brakes? I'm not trying to take a poke at anyone, or to be provocative - this is part of the educational process for a new F24 owner. '