Fairchild Club Forum

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Fritz" wrote:
>
> Disconnect the parking brake from the system and see if you have the same
> problem of cross braking...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of roy25102
> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 3:18 PM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [fairchildclub] HELP, PT-19 brake conundrum.. Pictures.
>
> We are in dire need of some help with a problem on my friends PT-19. Simply
> put, when you apply either left or right brake, the opposite brake is also
> being applied. The aircraft has no differential braking. Everyone I have
> spoken to so far thinks I am crazy but I assure you, both left and right
> maser cylinders are being actuated with the pressing of any single brake
> pedal in the airplane.
>
> I think I have isolated the problem to an improperly installed parking brake
> cross tube assembly in the brake assembly section. This tube always moves
> when any brake is pressed and I think it should only move when the parking
> brake handle is pulled. Here are some pics.
>
> http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n618/roy25101/right01.jpg
> http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n618/roy25101/right02.jpg
> http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n618/roy25101/left01.jpg
> http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n618/roy25101/left02.jpg
>
> These arrows point to the mechanism that actuates the parking brake.
> Unfortunately every time one brake is applied it is moving when it should
> stay stationary. I have a feeling that the the metal tabs that are sticking
> up into the channel should actually be behind the channel which would allow
> the brakes to operate independently instead of in tandem. I cannot however
> be sure of just how each side should be placed.
>
> If anyone has any information about this it would be greatly appreciated.
> Perhaps someone is in the process of working on one of these aircraft and
> could either take pictures or just describe where these tabs should be
> placed. It would be GREATLY appreciated. We are at a dead end here. The
> parts manual and the maintenance manual or too vague on these details. We
> are located in SE Georgia so perhaps someone has a PT-19 close by we could
> go take a look at. Thanks in advance...
>
>
>
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>
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>

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:17 PM, roy25102 wrote:

>
>
> We are in dire need of some help with a problem on my friends PT-19. Simply
> put, when you apply either left or right brake, the opposite brake is also
> being applied. The aircraft has no differential braking. Everyone I have
> spoken to so far thinks I am crazy but I assure you, both left and right
> maser cylinders are being actuated with the pressing of any single brake
> pedal in the airplane.
>
> I think I have isolated the problem to an improperly installed parking
> brake cross tube assembly in the brake assembly section. This tube always
> moves when any brake is pressed and I think it should only move when the
> parking brake handle is pulled. Here are some pics.
>
> http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n618/roy25101/right01.jpg
> http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n618/roy25101/right02.jpg
> http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n618/roy25101/left01.jpg
> http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n618/roy25101/left02.jpg
>
> These arrows point to the mechanism that actuates the parking brake.
> Unfortunately every time one brake is applied it is moving when it should
> stay stationary. I have a feeling that the the metal tabs that are sticking
> up into the channel should actually be behind the channel which would allow
> the brakes to operate independently instead of in tandem. I cannot however
> be sure of just how each side should be placed.
>
> If anyone has any information about this it would be greatly appreciated.
> Perhaps someone is in the process of working on one of these aircraft and
> could either take pictures or just describe where these tabs should be
> placed. It would be GREATLY appreciated. We are at a dead end here. The
> parts manual and the maintenance manual or too vague on these details. We
> are located in SE Georgia so perhaps someone has a PT-19 close by we could
> go take a look at. Thanks in advance...
>
>
>



--
Curt Kinchen
ptcurt@gmail.com


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--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Curt Kinchen wrote:
>
> I've got mine in a state of disassembly and will take some pix today or
> tomorrow and share them. I think you're on the right track.
>
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:17 PM, roy25102 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > We are in dire need of some help with a problem on my friends PT-19. Simply
> > put, when you apply either left or right brake, the opposite brake is also
> > being applied. The aircraft has no differential braking. Everyone I have
> > spoken to so far thinks I am crazy but I assure you, both left and right
> > maser cylinders are being actuated with the pressing of any single brake
> > pedal in the airplane.
> >
> > I think I have isolated the problem to an improperly installed parking
> > brake cross tube assembly in the brake assembly section. This tube always
> > moves when any brake is pressed and I think it should only move when the
> > parking brake handle is pulled. Here are some pics.
> >
> > http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n618/roy25101/right01.jpg
> > http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n618/roy25101/right02.jpg
> > http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n618/roy25101/left01.jpg
> > http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n618/roy25101/left02.jpg
> >
> > These arrows point to the mechanism that actuates the parking brake.
> > Unfortunately every time one brake is applied it is moving when it should
> > stay stationary. I have a feeling that the the metal tabs that are sticking
> > up into the channel should actually be behind the channel which would allow
> > the brakes to operate independently instead of in tandem. I cannot however
> > be sure of just how each side should be placed.
> >
> > If anyone has any information about this it would be greatly appreciated.
> > Perhaps someone is in the process of working on one of these aircraft and
> > could either take pictures or just describe where these tabs should be
> > placed. It would be GREATLY appreciated. We are at a dead end here. The
> > parts manual and the maintenance manual or too vague on these details. We
> > are located in SE Georgia so perhaps someone has a PT-19 close by we could
> > go take a look at. Thanks in advance...
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Kinchen
> ptcurt@...
>
>
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>

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "roy25102" wrote:
>
> We are in dire need of some help with a problem on my friends PT-19. Simply put, when you apply either left or right brake, the opposite brake is also being applied. The aircraft has no differential braking. Everyone I have spoken to so far thinks I am crazy but I assure you, both left and right maser cylinders are being actuated with the pressing of any single brake pedal in the airplane.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
>
> My PT has the front floorboards removed so I took a photo of the link you are concerned with. It has been added to the photo album N69167.
> The tab is shown behind the arm with the U-shaped channel, as others have suggested. Hope this helps. The tab is behind the arm on both sides.
>
> Charles
>
>
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "roy25102" wrote:
> >
> > We are in dire need of some help with a problem on my friends PT-19. Simply put, when you apply either left or right brake, the opposite brake is also being applied. The aircraft has no differential braking. Everyone I have spoken to so far thinks I am crazy but I assure you, both left and right maser cylinders are being actuated with the pressing of any single brake pedal in the airplane.
>

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "roy25102" wrote:
>
> Thanks you for taking a look at that for us. I looked for the pictures but was not able to see them. Perhaps they have not been added yet. I will check back later. Again thanks.
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
> >
> > My PT has the front floorboards removed so I took a photo of the link you are concerned with. It has been added to the photo album N69167.
> > The tab is shown behind the arm with the U-shaped channel, as others have suggested. Hope this helps. The tab is behind the arm on both sides.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "roy25102" wrote:
> > >
> > > We are in dire need of some help with a problem on my friends PT-19. Simply put, when you apply either left or right brake, the opposite brake is also being applied. The aircraft has no differential braking. Everyone I have spoken to so far thinks I am crazy but I assure you, both left and right maser cylinders are being actuated with the pressing of any single brake pedal in the airplane.
> >
>

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
>
> I thought I had added the brake link photo, but evidently I haven't figured out the process correctly. And haven't been able to do so with another try.
>
> Let's try a direct email. Send your email address to me at: ccm2 (at) sbcglobal (dot) net
>
> Charles
>
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "roy25102" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks you for taking a look at that for us. I looked for the pictures but was not able to see them. Perhaps they have not been added yet. I will check back later. Again thanks.
> >
> > --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
> > >
> > > My PT has the front floorboards removed so I took a photo of the link you are concerned with. It has been added to the photo album N69167.
> > > The tab is shown behind the arm with the U-shaped channel, as others have suggested. Hope this helps. The tab is behind the arm on both sides.
> > >
> > > Charles
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "roy25102" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We are in dire need of some help with a problem on my friends PT-19. Simply put, when you apply either left or right brake, the opposite brake is also being applied. The aircraft has no differential braking. Everyone I have spoken to so far thinks I am crazy but I assure you, both left and right maser cylinders are being actuated with the pressing of any single brake pedal in the airplane.
> > >
> >
>

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM, roy25102 wrote:

>
>
> Thanks you for taking a look at that for us. I looked for the pictures but
> was not able to see them. Perhaps they have not been added yet. I will check
> back later. Again thanks.
>
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "ccmueller001" wrote:
> >
> > My PT has the front floorboards removed so I took a photo of the link you
> are concerned with. It has been added to the photo album N69167.
> > The tab is shown behind the arm with the U-shaped channel, as others have
> suggested. Hope this helps. The tab is behind the arm on both sides.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "roy25102" wrote:
> > >
> > > We are in dire need of some help with a problem on my friends PT-19.
> Simply put, when you apply either left or right brake, the opposite brake is
> also being applied. The aircraft has no differential braking. Everyone I
> have spoken to so far thinks I am crazy but I assure you, both left and
> right maser cylinders are being actuated with the pressing of any single
> brake pedal in the airplane.
> >
>
>
>



--
Curt Kinchen
ptcurt@gmail.com


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