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Re: Master drawing index for the NASM/Smithsonian collection of draw

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:40 am
by wclayman
'Hi Marc,

That is the baseline for the "Fairchild" drawings. There is another index, a
master index within the NASM where all their drawings are listed with
hyperlinks to all manufacturers drawings in inventory. The NASM and
Smithsoniam have many more drawings in inventory than are shown on the
accessable pages found on their re-worked foreground online pages/screens.

It is this master index url which I seek to find again. I had it...but the
url changed rendering my link(s) useless...therefore I seek the new address.
I appreciate and understand this discussion forum's Fairchild focus; I
belong to others as well...Weaver aka WACO for example.

Ed


----- Original Message -----
From: "MARC J FLEMING"
To: "Fairchild Yahoo site post"
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:23 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM


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> Try: nasm.si.edu/research/arch/collections/techdraw/fairchild24.cfm That
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> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> From: wmclayman@comcast.net
> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 05:46:12 -0500
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Hugh Loewenhardt
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> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:26 PM
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> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> Hello wclayman, For my project, I use hard copies of the drawing indices
> obtained from NASM as explained in my reply to Jp.Lorie. If the indices
> for the various model F-24's are available on the Internet that is(would)
> be a great thing but at this point I am unaware of it. I will do some
> research to find out. Regards, Hugh
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> --- On Tue, 6/1/10, wclayman wrote:
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > From: Jp Lorie
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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:16 AM
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> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> > Hi Hugh,
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> > From: Hugh Loewenhardt
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> > Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 4:35:13 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> > You may or may not find drawing 48107 in Jamies's CD as
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Re: Master drawing index for the NASM/Smithsonian collection of draw

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:08 pm
by David Stroud
'Out of curiosity, I wonder if NASM has drawings for the Fairchild FC-2W2 / 71 line of planes.
I struggled for a long time looking for drawings for my Fairchild 51 project and in fact found
them right in my own back yard by "underground" word of mouth. Canada's Aviation Museum
here in Ottawa has a complete set of original blueprints for the 51 and some for the 71 but they
sure don't advertise it.

My Father in Law and I are allowed into the archives by appointment, don the white gloves
then open and photo the old prints in the library, then send them out for print. Some are as far
back as 1927...mostly 28 and 29. It's a moving experience just to touch the old blueprints from
over 80 years ago.

As an aside, it's amazing to see the beautiful handwritten notes on some of them. No keyboards
in those days, done with real ink and the old pens you'd stick in the inkwell. I remember them in
my early school years.

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
----- Original Message -----
From: wclayman
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: Master drawing index for the NASM/Smithsonian collection of drawings (1000's)



Hi Marc,

That is the baseline for the "Fairchild" drawings. There is another index, a
master index within the NASM where all their drawings are listed with
hyperlinks to all manufacturers drawings in inventory. The NASM and
Smithsoniam have many more drawings in inventory than are shown on the
accessable pages found on their re-worked foreground online pages/screens.

It is this master index url which I seek to find again. I had it...but the
url changed rendering my link(s) useless...therefore I seek the new address.
I appreciate and understand this discussion forum's Fairchild focus; I
belong to others as well...Weaver aka WACO for example.

Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: "MARC J FLEMING"
To: "Fairchild Yahoo site post"
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:23 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM

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> Try: nasm.si.edu/research/arch/collections/techdraw/fairchild24.cfm That
> should do it. Marc
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> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> From: wmclayman@comcast.net
> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 05:46:12 -0500
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> Ed
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Hugh Loewenhardt
>
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:26 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> Hello wclayman, For my project, I use hard copies of the drawing indices
> obtained from NASM as explained in my reply to Jp.Lorie. If the indices
> for the various model F-24's are available on the Internet that is(would)
> be a great thing but at this point I am unaware of it. I will do some
> research to find out. Regards, Hugh
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>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/1/10, wclayman wrote:
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>> From: wclayman
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > From: Jp Lorie
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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:16 AM
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> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: drawings from NASM
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> > Hi Hugh,
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> > Can you tell us what NASM is and how to get to it.
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> > From: Hugh Loewenhardt
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> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 4:35:13 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> > You may or may not find drawing 48107 in Jamies's CD as
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> > --- On Fri, 5/28/10, burnmcc@aol.com
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> > > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> > > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > > Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 1:35 PM
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> > > OK, Many thanks. I have the Fairchild CD from Jamie,
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> > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > From: Hugh Loewenhardt
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> > > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
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> > > Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 8:58 pm
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> > > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Motor Mounts
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> > > Bill, The original engine installation washer for
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> > > specified by Fairchild drawing number 48107.
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> > > applicability is: C8C,C8E,24G,24J, and 24W9. The
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> > > available from NASM or I can send you copy. Your
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> > > Hugh Loewenhardt
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> > > --- On Thu, 5/27/10, mcclurebill@rocketmail.com
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> > > > Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 12:37 PM
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