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--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Robert wrote:


From: Robert
Subject: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 2:58 PM


 



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----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Thomson
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement



You don't need an STC as long as the type certificate data sheet approves the engine, which in this case, it does.? The only problem you would have is if you are trying to install a C-5 which is a Ranger 200hp.? It can still be done, just a bit more hastle.? Been there done that!

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Robert wrote:

From: Robert
Subject: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 2:58 PM

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Messenger"
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement


It does? I sure can't find it on any of the TDC's I ahve looked at. I sure
hope it is true, as that is exactly the problem I face with N81282, she is
technically a 24W46, but I have this lovely Ranger fwf. Tell me where I can
find it!

Ashley
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Thomson
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement



You don't need an STC as long as the type certificate data sheet approves
the engine, which in this case, it does. The only problem you would have
is if you are trying to install a C-5 which is a Ranger 200hp. It can
still be done, just a bit more hastle. Been there done that!

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Robert wrote:

From: Robert
Subject: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 2:58 PM

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----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie Treat
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Cc: amsnaproll@zoomtown.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement



Ashley,

Two different Type Cert.

A-707 for the Warner powered F-24 and A-706 for the Ranger powered F-24

I have attached both TCs.

Also attached the FAA 337 for the Warner to Ranger, and Ranger 175 to 200hp.

Note: Attachments will not be posted on the yahoo account.

Jamie

Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair, LLC
IAC 5, Chapter President
http://iac5.org
Kelly Airpark (CO15) http://www.kellyairpark.com
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106

New Email: JamieTreat@q.com
Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
Cell 303-304-7937

Quote of the Month: When asked by someone how much money flying takes: Why,
all of it! - Gordon Baxter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Messenger"
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement

It does? I sure can't find it on any of the TDC's I ahve looked at. I sure
hope it is true, as that is exactly the problem I face with N81282, she is
technically a 24W46, but I have this lovely Ranger fwf. Tell me where I can
find it!

Ashley
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Thomson
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement

You don't need an STC as long as the type certificate data sheet approves
the engine, which in this case, it does. The only problem you would have
is if you are trying to install a C-5 which is a Ranger 200hp. It can
still be done, just a bit more hastle. Been there done that!

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Robert wrote:

From: Robert
Subject: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 2:58 PM

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info on f24 fairchild that had warner engine and looking to instll
rangerengine also is there a stc issued

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--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Ashley Messenger wrote:


From: Ashley Messenger
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 5:28 PM


It does? I sure can't find it on any of the TDC's I ahve looked at. I sure hope it is true, as that is exactly the problem I face with N81282, she is technically a 24W46, but I have this lovely Ranger fwf. Tell me where I can find it!

Ashley
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Jay Thomson
  To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement


   
  You don't need an STC as long as the type certificate data sheet approves the engine, which in this case, it does.  The only problem you would have is if you are trying to install a C-5 which is a Ranger 200hp.  It can still be done, just a bit more hastle.  Been there done that!

  --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Robert wrote:

  From: Robert
  Subject: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement
  To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 2:58 PM

   

  info on f24 fairchild that had warner engine and looking to instll rangerengine also is there a stc issued

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--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Jamie Treat wrote:


From: Jamie Treat
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Cc: amsnaproll@zoomtown.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:27 PM


 



Ashley,

Two different Type Cert.

A-707 for the Warner powered F-24 and A-706 for the Ranger powered F-24

I have attached both TCs.

Also attached the FAA 337 for the Warner to Ranger, and Ranger 175 to 200hp.

Note: Attachments will not be posted on the yahoo account.

Jamie

Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair, LLC
IAC 5, Chapter President
http://iac5. org
Kelly Airpark (CO15) http://www.kellyair park.com
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106

New Email: JamieTreat@q. com
Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
Cell 303-304-7937

Quote of the Month: When asked by someone how much money flying takes: Why,
all of it! - Gordon Baxter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Messenger"
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement

It does? I sure can't find it on any of the TDC's I ahve looked at. I sure
hope it is true, as that is exactly the problem I face with N81282, she is
technically a 24W46, but I have this lovely Ranger fwf. Tell me where I can
find it!

Ashley
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Thomson
To: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement

You don't need an STC as long as the type certificate data sheet approves
the engine, which in this case, it does. The only problem you would have
is if you are trying to install a C-5 which is a Ranger 200hp. It can
still be done, just a bit more hastle. Been there done that!

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Robert wrote:

From: Robert
Subject: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement
To: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 2:58 PM

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info on f24 fairchild that had warner engine and looking to instll
rangerengine also is there a stc issued

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----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Link
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement



You can post them in the Files Folder if you want....
----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie Treat
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Cc: amsnaproll@zoomtown.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement

Ashley,

Two different Type Cert.

A-707 for the Warner powered F-24 and A-706 for the Ranger powered F-24

I have attached both TCs.

Also attached the FAA 337 for the Warner to Ranger, and Ranger 175 to 200hp.

Note: Attachments will not be posted on the yahoo account.

Jamie

Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair, LLC
IAC 5, Chapter President
http://iac5.org
Kelly Airpark (CO15) http://www.kellyairpark.com
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106

New Email: JamieTreat@q.com
Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
Cell 303-304-7937

Quote of the Month: When asked by someone how much money flying takes: Why,
all of it! - Gordon Baxter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Messenger"
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement

It does? I sure can't find it on any of the TDC's I ahve looked at. I sure
hope it is true, as that is exactly the problem I face with N81282, she is
technically a 24W46, but I have this lovely Ranger fwf. Tell me where I can
find it!

Ashley
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Thomson
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement

You don't need an STC as long as the type certificate data sheet approves
the engine, which in this case, it does. The only problem you would have
is if you are trying to install a C-5 which is a Ranger 200hp. It can
still be done, just a bit more hastle. Been there done that!

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Robert wrote:

From: Robert
Subject: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 2:58 PM

Â

info on f24 fairchild that had warner engine and looking to instll
rangerengine also is there a stc issued

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----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Thomson
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement



Hi Ashley;

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. We live in the Dominican Republic during the winter months (we are there now) and the internet is down more than it's up! Sounds like Jamie has given you the info you are in need of, and if there's anybody that can help you, Jamie is the one. When I bought my airplane N81285, it had just been restored and the owner had changed the engine from a C-4 to a C-5. We had nothing but trouble with the faa in Chicago. TC's can be interpreted differently and that is where I think we got into trouble with the faa. A 337 was sent in for the engine change and the way I read the TC that wasn't necessary. Anyway we had to show the faa engineers the aircraft prints so that they could see that there was no change in the structure for a higher hp engine. Once that was done, there was no problem. If you have any trouble at all, let me know and I will send you the info on how we accomplished the task. I will
not be back in the states until 17 March. Contact me at thomsonjay@msn.com and I will send you some nice photo's of N81285.

Jay

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Ashley Messenger wrote:

From: Ashley Messenger
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 5:28 PM

It does? I sure can't find it on any of the TDC's I ahve looked at. I sure hope it is true, as that is exactly the problem I face with N81282, she is technically a 24W46, but I have this lovely Ranger fwf. Tell me where I can find it!

Ashley
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Thomson
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement


You don't need an STC as long as the type certificate data sheet approves the engine, which in this case, it does.? The only problem you would have is if you are trying to install a C-5 which is a Ranger 200hp.? It can still be done, just a bit more hastle.? Been there done that!

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Robert wrote:

From: Robert
Subject: [fairchildclub] warner engine replacement
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 2:58 PM

?

info on f24 fairchild that had warner engine and looking to instll rangerengine also is there a stc issued

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