Fairchild Club Forum

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:17 pm**

'Email address: jamessp

Am looking at a 24 with Cont r680, want to learn all about the 24's. I
especially like the high quality details of the Fairchild.

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Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:07 am**

'I only just became aware that an F-24 may be powered by a Continental radial
engine. Can anybody fill me in on what is involved in going this way? Has a
Jacobs also been used?

Thanks

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Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:18 AM
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Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp

Email address: jamessp

Am looking at a 24 with Cont r680, want to learn all about the 24's. I
especially like the high quality details of the Fairchild.

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Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:23 pm**

'John,

Both have been installed. STC are no longer available for the Jake. Not a very good approach with either engine. Reduces aircraft to a legal two place aircraft. Must play with the fuel load. Also makes it nose heavy. With the Cleveland brakes, you will/can end up on your nose or back. Also places additional stress on the gear joints and gear attach fittings. Suggest you stick with a Ranger or Warner. If the M-14 or the LOM was ever Type Cert, this would be an option.

Jamie

Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair
IAC 5, Chapter President
Kelly Airpark (CO15)
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106

New Email: JamieTreat@q.com
Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
Cell 303-304-7937

Quote of the Month: If helicopters are so safe, how come there are no vintage/classic
helicopter fly-ins? - Anonymous

----- Original Message -----
From: John
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp

I only just became aware that an F-24 may be powered by a Continental radial
engine. Can anybody fill me in on what is involved in going this way? Has a
Jacobs also been used?

Thanks

_____

From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Casali
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:18 AM
To: Fairchild List
Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp

Email address: jamessp

Am looking at a 24 with Cont r680, want to learn all about the 24's. I
especially like the high quality details of the Fairchild.

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Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:46 pm**

'Thanks,

Just saw a photo of a cont. 220 powered one last week and was curious.

John

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From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jamie Treat
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:20 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp

John,

Both have been installed. STC are no longer available for the Jake. Not a
very good approach with either engine. Reduces aircraft to a legal two place
aircraft. Must play with the fuel load. Also makes it nose heavy. With the
Cleveland brakes, you will/can end up on your nose or back. Also places
additional stress on the gear joints and gear attach fittings. Suggest you
stick with a Ranger or Warner. If the M-14 or the LOM was ever Type Cert,
this would be an option.

Jamie

Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair
IAC 5, Chapter President
Kelly Airpark (CO15)
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106

New Email: JamieTreat@q. com
Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
Cell 303-304-7937

Quote of the Month: If helicopters are so safe, how come there are no
vintage/classic
helicopter fly-ins? - Anonymous

----- Original Message -----
From: John
To: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp

I only just became aware that an F-24 may be powered by a Continental radial
engine. Can anybody fill me in on what is involved in going this way? Has a
Jacobs also been used?

Thanks

_____

From: fairchildclub@
yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@
yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Casali
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:18 AM
To: Fairchild List
Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp

Email address: jamessp

Am looking at a 24 with Cont r680, want to learn all about the 24's. I
especially like the high quality details of the Fairchild.

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Posted: **Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:22 am**

'Every landing will be a three pointer or there will be a quiz!

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From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of John
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 11:07 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp

I only just became aware that an F-24 may be powered by a Continental radial
engine. Can anybody fill me in on what is involved in going this way? Has a
Jacobs also been used?

Thanks

_____

From: fairchildclub@
yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@
yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Casali
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:18 AM
To: Fairchild List
Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp

Email address: jamessp

Am looking at a 24 with Cont r680, want to learn all about the 24's. I
especially like the high quality details of the Fairchild.

----------------------
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correspondance regarding the new member's comments should be addressed
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Posted: **Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:17 pm**

'To All

I've heard a lot about the smooth running Ranger that can be a great
engine with modifications to control oil consumption. Since I'm new to
the site, I'll ask an obvious question. Has any work been done to
develop a new Ranger engine with new technology, and the improvements
the engine is known to need?

James

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Jamie Treat"
wrote:

>
> John,
>
> Both have been installed. STC are no longer available for the Jake.

Not a very good approach with either engine. Reduces aircraft to a legal
two place aircraft. Must play with the fuel load. Also makes it nose
heavy. With the Cleveland brakes, you will/can end up on your nose or
back. Also places additional stress on the gear joints and gear attach
fittings. Suggest you stick with a Ranger or Warner. If the M-14 or the
LOM was ever Type Cert, this would be an option.

>
> Jamie
>
> Jamie S. Treat
> Aircraft Restoration & Repair
> IAC 5, Chapter President
> Kelly Airpark (CO15)
> 24201 David C. Johnson Loop
> Elbert, CO 80106
>
> New Email: JamieTreat@...
> Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
> Cell 303-304-7937
>
> Quote of the Month: If helicopters are so safe, how come there are no

vintage/classic

> helicopter fly-ins? - Anonymous
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:07 AM
> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp jrspurgeon@...
>
>
> I only just became aware that an F-24 may be powered by a Continental

radial

> engine. Can anybody fill me in on what is involved in going this way?

Has a

> Jacobs also been used?
>
> Thanks
>
> _____
>
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]

> On Behalf Of Dan Casali
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:18 AM
> To: Fairchild List
> Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp jrspurgeon@...
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> Email address: jamessp jrspurgeon@sbcgloba
> l.net>
>
> Am looking at a 24 with Cont r680, want to learn all about the 24's. I
> especially like the high quality details of the Fairchild.
>
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Posted: **Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:34 am**

'No, it will never happen.

Mike

Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green

----- Original Message ----
From: jamessp
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:17:22 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: NEW MEMBER jamessp

To All

I've heard a lot about the smooth running Ranger that can be a great
engine with modifications to control oil consumption. Since I'm new to
the site, I'll ask an obvious question. Has any work been done to
develop a new Ranger engine with new technology, and the improvements
the engine is known to need?

James

--- In fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com, "Jamie Treat"
wrote:

>
> John,
>
> Both have been installed. STC are no longer available for the Jake.

Not a very good approach with either engine. Reduces aircraft to a legal
two place aircraft. Must play with the fuel load. Also makes it nose
heavy. With the Cleveland brakes, you will/can end up on your nose or
back. Also places additional stress on the gear joints and gear attach
fittings. Suggest you stick with a Ranger or Warner. If the M-14 or the
LOM was ever Type Cert, this would be an option.

>
> Jamie
>
> Jamie S. Treat
> Aircraft Restoration & Repair
> IAC 5, Chapter President
> Kelly Airpark (CO15)
> 24201 David C. Johnson Loop
> Elbert, CO 80106
>
> New Email: JamieTreat@. ..
> Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
> Cell 303-304-7937
>
> Quote of the Month: If helicopters are so safe, how come there are no

vintage/classic

> helicopter fly-ins? - Anonymous
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John
> To: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:07 AM
> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp jrspurgeon@. ..
>
>
> I only just became aware that an F-24 may be powered by a Continental

radial

> engine. Can anybody fill me in on what is involved in going this way?

Has a

> Jacobs also been used?
>
> Thanks
>
> _____
>
> From: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com]

> On Behalf Of Dan Casali
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:18 AM
> To: Fairchild List
> Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp jrspurgeon@. ..
>
> Email address: jamessp jrspurgeon@sbcgloba
> l.net>
>
> Am looking at a 24 with Cont r680, want to learn all about the 24's. I
> especially like the high quality details of the Fairchild.
>
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Posted: **Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:31 pm**

'James,

I agree, never happen. But LOM is producing 4 and 6 Cyl inline engines. Very smooth, injected, supercharged. Currently being installed in Exp Chipmunks, STAs, and others. Not certified. They are trying, slowly.

I have the Fairchild Club Ranger Engine Mount jig. It could be used to build LOM engine mounts to fit F-24s.

I would like to have a Short Nose F-24, small tail with a LOM powered 252 hp Supercharged, Injected, with Constant Speed prop version that still is TC. Would have to offset the vert fin to the opposite side. All the cowling would be used. You would not know the difference until you throttle up or pull the cowl.

Jamie

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Denest
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: NEW MEMBER jamessp

No, it will never happen.

Mike

Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green

----- Original Message ----
From: jamessp
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:17:22 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: NEW MEMBER jamessp

To All

I've heard a lot about the smooth running Ranger that can be a great
engine with modifications to control oil consumption. Since I'm new to
the site, I'll ask an obvious question. Has any work been done to
develop a new Ranger engine with new technology, and the improvements
the engine is known to need?

James

--- In fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com, "Jamie Treat"
wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Both have been installed. STC are no longer available for the Jake.
Not a very good approach with either engine. Reduces aircraft to a legal
two place aircraft. Must play with the fuel load. Also makes it nose
heavy. With the Cleveland brakes, you will/can end up on your nose or
back. Also places additional stress on the gear joints and gear attach
fittings. Suggest you stick with a Ranger or Warner. If the M-14 or the
LOM was ever Type Cert, this would be an option.
>
> Jamie
>
> Jamie S. Treat
> Aircraft Restoration & Repair
> IAC 5, Chapter President
> Kelly Airpark (CO15)
> 24201 David C. Johnson Loop
> Elbert, CO 80106
>
> New Email: JamieTreat@. ..
> Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
> Cell 303-304-7937
>
> Quote of the Month: If helicopters are so safe, how come there are no
vintage/classic
> helicopter fly-ins? - Anonymous
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John
> To: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:07 AM
> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp jrspurgeon@. ..
>
>
> I only just became aware that an F-24 may be powered by a Continental
radial
> engine. Can anybody fill me in on what is involved in going this way?
Has a
> Jacobs also been used?
>
> Thanks
>
> _____
>
> From: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com]
> On Behalf Of Dan Casali
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:18 AM
> To: Fairchild List
> Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp jrspurgeon@. ..
>
> Email address: jamessp jrspurgeon@sbcgloba
> l.net>
>
> Am looking at a 24 with Cont r680, want to learn all about the 24's. I
> especially like the high quality details of the Fairchild.
>
> ------------ --------- -
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moderator;
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Posted: **Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:47 am**

'Yes, Lee Hurry built a Ranger -5 that used less than a qt. of 60
Aeroshell an hour at 2150 rpm.

I was able to fly from DCA to the FL. Keys, MTH, on 2 qts. round trip, with
a stop at Lakeland in the spring.

There are some articles by Lee in the Fairchild Flyer about
building a "dry" Ranger. Bob Haas.

_____

From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of jamessp
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:17 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: NEW MEMBER jamessp

To All

I've heard a lot about the smooth running Ranger that can be a great
engine with modifications to control oil consumption. Since I'm new to
the site, I'll ask an obvious question. Has any work been done to
develop a new Ranger engine with new technology, and the improvements
the engine is known to need?

James

--- In fairchildclub@
yahoogroups.com, "Jamie Treat"
wrote:

>
> John,
>
> Both have been installed. STC are no longer available for the Jake.

Not a very good approach with either engine. Reduces aircraft to a legal
two place aircraft. Must play with the fuel load. Also makes it nose
heavy. With the Cleveland brakes, you will/can end up on your nose or
back. Also places additional stress on the gear joints and gear attach
fittings. Suggest you stick with a Ranger or Warner. If the M-14 or the
LOM was ever Type Cert, this would be an option.

>
> Jamie
>
> Jamie S. Treat
> Aircraft Restoration & Repair
> IAC 5, Chapter President
> Kelly Airpark (CO15)
> 24201 David C. Johnson Loop
> Elbert, CO 80106
>
> New Email: JamieTreat@...
> Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
> Cell 303-304-7937
>
> Quote of the Month: If helicopters are so safe, how come there are no

vintage/classic

> helicopter fly-ins? - Anonymous
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John
> To: fairchildclub@

yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:07 AM
> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp jrspurgeon@...
>
>
> I only just became aware that an F-24 may be powered by a Continental

radial

> engine. Can anybody fill me in on what is involved in going this way?

Has a

> Jacobs also been used?
>
> Thanks
>
> _____
>
> From: fairchildclub@

yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@
yahoogroups.com]

> On Behalf Of Dan Casali
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:18 AM
> To: Fairchild List
> Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp jrspurgeon@...
>
> Email address: jamessp jrspurgeon@sbcgloba
> l.net>
>
> Am looking at a 24 with Cont r680, want to learn all about the 24's. I
> especially like the high quality details of the Fairchild.
>
> ----------------------
> PLEASE NOTE: This new member announcement is posted by the group

moderator;

> correspondance regarding the new member's comments should be addressed
> either to the group or the member directly (address above), and not to

the

> moderator, Dan Casali
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Posted: **Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:43 am**

'I'll check that out. Sounds interesting.
James

Bob Haas wrote:
Yes, Lee Hurry built a Ranger -5 that used less than a qt. of 60
Aeroshell an hour at 2150 rpm.

I was able to fly from DCA to the FL. Keys, MTH, on 2 qts. round trip, with
a stop at Lakeland in the spring.

There are some articles by Lee in the Fairchild Flyer about
building a "dry" Ranger. Bob Haas.

_____

From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of jamessp
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:17 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: NEW MEMBER jamessp

To All

I've heard a lot about the smooth running Ranger that can be a great
engine with modifications to control oil consumption. Since I'm new to
the site, I'll ask an obvious question. Has any work been done to
develop a new Ranger engine with new technology, and the improvements
the engine is known to need?

James

--- In fairchildclub@
yahoogroups.com, "Jamie Treat"
wrote:

>
> John,
>
> Both have been installed. STC are no longer available for the Jake.

Not a very good approach with either engine. Reduces aircraft to a legal
two place aircraft. Must play with the fuel load. Also makes it nose
heavy. With the Cleveland brakes, you will/can end up on your nose or
back. Also places additional stress on the gear joints and gear attach
fittings. Suggest you stick with a Ranger or Warner. If the M-14 or the
LOM was ever Type Cert, this would be an option.

>
> Jamie
>
> Jamie S. Treat
> Aircraft Restoration & Repair
> IAC 5, Chapter President
> Kelly Airpark (CO15)
> 24201 David C. Johnson Loop
> Elbert, CO 80106
>
> New Email: JamieTreat@...
> Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130
> Cell 303-304-7937
>
> Quote of the Month: If helicopters are so safe, how come there are no

vintage/classic

> helicopter fly-ins? - Anonymous
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John
> To: fairchildclub@

yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:07 AM
> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp jrspurgeon@...
>
>
> I only just became aware that an F-24 may be powered by a Continental

radial

> engine. Can anybody fill me in on what is involved in going this way?

Has a

> Jacobs also been used?
>
> Thanks
>
> _____
>
> From: fairchildclub@

yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@
yahoogroups.com]

> On Behalf Of Dan Casali
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:18 AM
> To: Fairchild List
> Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER jamessp jrspurgeon@...
>
> Email address: jamessp jrspurgeon@sbcgloba
> l.net>
>
> Am looking at a 24 with Cont r680, want to learn all about the 24's. I
> especially like the high quality details of the Fairchild.
>
> ----------------------
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moderator;

> correspondance regarding the new member's comments should be addressed
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