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NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:28 am
by dcasali
'Email address: karenmarsh02

Comment from user:
Hi, I am interested in PT-19's and am looking for info on one
that my family owned in the 1950's. NC46191, USAAF serial #43-33730,
serial number T43-7315.




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Re: NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:52 pm
by rangerrobertmn
'Hello,

My name is Bob Waldron and I live in Minnesota U.S.A. and I own a
1939 Fairchild 24K.

There is a website at www.landings.com that has all sorts of data
about aircraft registrations. I contained the following data:

N-number : N46191
Aircraft Serial Number : T437315
Aircraft Manufacturer : FAIRCHILD
Model : M-62A
Engine Manufacturer : FAIRCHILD
Model : 6-440 SERIES
Aircraft Year : 1944
Owner Name : YATES HENRY J
Owner Address : 3989 WINIFRED
WAYNE, MI, 48184
Type of Owner : Individual
Registration Date : Not Specified
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Not Specified


Good Luck
Bob W.



--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Dan Casali wrote:
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> Email address: karenmarsh02
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> Comment from user:
> Hi, I am interested in PT-19's and am looking for info on one
> that my family owned in the 1950's. NC46191, USAAF serial #43-33730,
> serial number T43-7315.
>
>
>
>
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Re: NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:59 pm
by blueskieskm@netscape.net
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Re: NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:06 pm
by blueskieskm@netscape.net
'Hi Bob,
Thanks.? Mr. Yates was the last registered owner.? I talked to his widow and she said they traded it for part interest in an AT-6.? She could not remember to who the PT went, but that it was in very nice condition at that time (1968).? Hopefully it is still tucked away in a barn somewhere. Did you restore your plane?? Saw a very nice yellow 24 this summer at a?dawn patrol in Michigan.
Kevin

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From: rangerrobertmn
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 2:52 pm
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02






Hello,

My name is Bob Waldron and I live in Minnesota U.S.A. and I own a
1939 Fairchild 24K.

There is a website at www.landings.com that has all sorts of data
about aircraft registrations. I contained the following data:

N-number : N46191
Aircraft Serial Number : T437315
Aircraft Manufacturer : FAIRCHILD
Model : M-62A
Engine Manufacturer : FAIRCHILD
Model : 6-440 SERIES
Aircraft Year : 1944
Owner Name : YATES HENRY J
Owner Address : 3989 WINIFRED
WAYNE, MI, 48184
Type of Owner : Individual
Registration Date : Not Specified
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Not Specified

Good Luck
Bob W.
--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Dan Casali wrote:
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> Email address: karenmarsh02
>
> Comment from user:
> Hi, I am interested in PT-19's and am looking for info on one
> that my family owned in the 1950's. NC46191, USAAF serial #43-33730,
> serial number T43-7315.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Re: NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:26 am
by tonyb42uk
'Hello Karen.
From the AAF microfilmed history card. Available from the Air Force
Historical research Agency, Maxwell. AL. and the Smithsonian archive:

USAAF serail: 43-33730.
Manufacturer: Fairchild, Hagerstown, MD.
Contract No: AC-29835.
Accepted: March 18,1944.(by the USAAF at Hagerstown)
Final Destination. Gunter Field, Montogomery, AL.
Ferry details.
Delivered: March 20th.
Arrived: March 21st (Atlanta)
Remained at Atlanta - March 22nd (weather).
Arrived: March 24th. (Gunter).
The next recorded assignment was to Robins Field on June 16th, where
43-33730 appears to have remained until transferred to the
Reconstruction Finance Corporation for surplus storage and sale in
September 1944.

Gunter Field was the location of the Eastern Flying Training Command
headquarters and a Basic Flying Training School operating Vultee BT-
13 variants. AFAIK, there was no primary flight school at Gunter and
so the station is unlikely to have used many primary trainers. I
think it is probable 43-33730 saw little or any operational use at
Gunter Field and that the assignment is simply to the EFTC. By the
spring of 1944 the cut-back of the primary flying program had begun
and Fairchild production was almost complete. Typically, 43-33730
looks like one of the last few hundred PT-19As built that saw no
service prior to disposal.

The details of it's civil career might be found from the FAA
documents. I did notice that the batch of registrations NC46190 to
NC46199 appear to be have been assigned to mainly similar late
delivery PT-19s, which may be a sign they were all sold from the same
RFC sales field or to the same broker. Whosoever the first owners
were they will have purchased some almost new aircaft at a knock-down
price!

Hope this helps, Tony Broadhurst.

P.S. If you have any photographs of NC46191 whilst in your family's
ownership I would be interested in obtaining a copy.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Dan Casali wrote:
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> Email address: karenmarsh02
>
> Comment from user:
> Hi, I am interested in PT-19's and am looking for info on one
> that my family owned in the 1950's. NC46191, USAAF serial #43-33730,
> serial number T43-7315.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Re: NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:19 am
by blueskieskm@netscape.net
'Hi Tony,

Thanks for the info.? Attached is a picture of my Mom & Dad in the PT-19A.? This is during the early 1950's when the plan had very few hours?flight time.

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: tonyb42uk
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 6:26 am
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02







Hello Karen.
From the AAF microfilmed history card. Available from the Air Force
Historical research Agency, Maxwell. AL. and the Smithsonian archive:

USAAF serail: 43-33730.
Manufacturer: Fairchild, Hagerstown, MD.
Contract No: AC-29835.
Accepted: March 18,1944.(by the USAAF at Hagerstown)
Final Destination. Gunter Field, Montogomery, AL.
Ferry details.
Delivered: March 20th.
Arrived: March 21st (Atlanta)
Remained at Atlanta - March 22nd (weather).
Arrived: March 24th. (Gunter).
The next recorded assignment was to Robins Field on June 16th, where
43-33730 appears to have remained until transferred to the
Reconstruction Finance Corporation for surplus storage and sale in
September 1944.

Gunter Field was the location of the Eastern Flying Training Command
headquarters and a Basic Flying Training School operating Vultee BT-
13 variants. AFAIK, there was no primary flight school at Gunter and
so the station is unlikely to have used many primary trainers. I
think it is probable 43-33730 saw little or any operational use at
Gunter Field and that the assignment is simply to the EFTC. By the
spring of 1944 the cut-back of the primary flying program had begun
and Fairchild production was almost complete. Typically, 43-33730
looks like one of the last few hundred PT-19As built that saw no
service prior to disposal.

The details of it's civil career might be found from the FAA
documents. I did notice that the batch of registrations NC46190 to
NC46199 appear to be have been assigned to mainly similar late
delivery PT-19s, which may be a sign they were all sold from the same
RFC sales field or to the same broker. Whosoever the first owners
were they will have purchased some almost new aircaft at a knock-down
price!

Hope this helps, Tony Broadhurst.

P.S. If you have any photographs of NC46191 whilst in your family's
ownership I would be interested in obtaining a copy.
--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, Dan Casali wrote:
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> Email address: karenmarsh02
>
> Comment from user:
> Hi, I am interested in PT-19's and am looking for info on one
> that my family owned in the 1950's. NC46191, USAAF serial #43-33730,
> serial number T43-7315.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Re: NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:03 pm
by Cy Galley
'this is the current FAA registration for that N-number...

N-number : N46191Aircraft Serial Number : T437315
Aircraft Manufacturer : FAIRCHILD
Model : M-62A
Engine Manufacturer : FAIRCHILD
Model : 6-440 SERIES
Aircraft Year : 1944
Owner Name : YATES HENRY J
Owner Address : 3989 WINIFRED
WAYNE, MI, 48184
Type of Owner : Individual
Registration Date : Not Specified
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Not Specified
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From: Dan Casali
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Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:28 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02


Email address: karenmarsh02

Comment from user:
Hi, I am interested in PT-19's and am looking for info on one
that my family owned in the 1950's. NC46191, USAAF serial #43-33730,
serial number T43-7315.

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Re: NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:19 am
by blueskieskm@netscape.net
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Re: NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:51 pm
by blueskieskm@netscape.net
'Thanks Dan.? Mr. Yates sold the plane in 1968 and the new owner did not register it.

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: Cy Galley
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02







this is the current FAA registration for that N-number...

N-number : N46191Aircraft Serial Number : T437315
Aircraft Manufacturer : FAIRCHILD
Model : M-62A
Engine Manufacturer : FAIRCHILD
Model : 6-440 SERIES
Aircraft Year : 1944
Owner Name : YATES HENRY J
Owner Address : 3989 WINIFRED
WAYNE, MI, 48184
Type of Owner : Individual
Registration Date : Not Specified
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Not Specified
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Casali
To: Fairchild List
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:28 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02

Email address: karenmarsh02

Comment from user:
Hi, I am interested in PT-19's and am looking for info on one
that my family owned in the 1950's. NC46191, USAAF serial #43-33730,
serial number T43-7315.

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Re: NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:30 pm
by Michael Denest
'In some cases, airplanes still on the register may, in fact, be "paper airplanes". The airframes may no longer exist but the airplane is still on the FAA records. Without a physical inspection, records like this one may be in name only. Active registered airplanes have registration dates and type of airworthiness certificate stated as part of the record. On the other hand, it could be one of those airplanes in a barn and the owner never got around to properly documenting the aircraft.


Mike

Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green



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From: "blueskieskm@netscape.net"
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:20:41 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02


Thanks Dan.? Mr. Yates sold the plane in 1968 and the new owner did not register it.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: Cy Galley
To: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02

this is the current FAA registration for that N-number...

N-number : N46191Aircraft Serial Number : T437315
Aircraft Manufacturer : FAIRCHILD
Model : M-62A
Engine Manufacturer : FAIRCHILD
Model : 6-440 SERIES
Aircraft Year : 1944
Owner Name : YATES HENRY J
Owner Address : 3989 WINIFRED
WAYNE, MI, 48184
Type of Owner : Individual
Registration Date : Not Specified
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Not Specified
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Casali
To: Fairchild List
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:28 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] NEW MEMBER karenmarsh02

Email address: karenmarsh02

Comment from user:
Hi, I am interested in PT-19's and am looking for info on one
that my family owned in the 1950's. NC46191, USAAF serial #43-33730,
serial number T43-7315.

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