Re: Ranger Mods

Michael Danielle · Post by **Michael Danielle** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:44 am

'New to the group, gentlemen.

I'm looking for details of the piston and cylinder head mods for
reducing oil consumption in the Ranger engine. I thought they might be
in the club's CD but John says they're not.

Anyone here who can help me get the specs?

Thanks,
Mike Danielle'

Bob Haas · Post by **Bob Haas** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:49 pm

'Look up Lee Hurry, He has several pages, and lot's of
experience. If you can not find

It let me know , I'll send it to you. Bob Haas.

_____

From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Michael Danielle
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:45 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods

New to the group, gentlemen.

I'm looking for details of the piston and cylinder head mods for
reducing oil consumption in the Ranger engine. I thought they might be
in the club's CD but John says they're not.

Anyone here who can help me get the specs?

Thanks,
Mike Danielle

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Mike Danielle · Post by **Mike Danielle** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:52 pm

'Appreciate it Bob. However, being new to the group, I have no idea where to
look for Lee. Can you scan the stuff and e-mail it? Or would snail mail be
the best way?

Let me know if you need an address.

Thanks,
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Haas"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods

> Look up Lee Hurry, He has several pages, and lot's of
> experience. If you can not find
>
> It let me know , I'll send it to you. Bob Haas.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Michael Danielle
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:45 AM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods
>
>
>
> New to the group, gentlemen.
>
> I'm looking for details of the piston and cylinder head mods for
> reducing oil consumption in the Ranger engine. I thought they might be
> in the club's CD but John says they're not.
>
> Anyone here who can help me get the specs?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Danielle
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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james chybicki · Post by **james chybicki** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:06 pm

'I believe Ed Wagner in Sheboygan, Wisconsin
does the Oil Modifications on the Ranger Pistons
Contact the Fairchild Group President for further
details and telephone numbers
Good Luck
Jim Chybicki
--- Mike Danielle wrote:

> Appreciate it Bob. However, being new to the group,
> I have no idea where to
> look for Lee. Can you scan the stuff and e-mail it?
> Or would snail mail be
> the best way?
>
> Let me know if you need an address.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Haas"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:50 AM
> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods
>
>
> > Look up Lee Hurry, He has several
> pages, and lot's of
> > experience. If you can not find
> >
> > It let me know , I'll send it to you. Bob Haas.
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of Michael Danielle
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:45 AM
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods
> >
> >
> >
> > New to the group, gentlemen.
> >
> > I'm looking for details of the piston and cylinder
> head mods for
> > reducing oil consumption in the Ranger engine. I
> thought they might be
> > in the club's CD but John says they're not.
> >
> > Anyone here who can help me get the specs?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike Danielle
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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Mike Danielle · Post by **Mike Danielle** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:10 pm

'Thanks, Jim. I plan to put together six jugs with all the mods ready for my
next TOH. It sure would be nice to not have to stock oil by the case. Does
Ed have a business name?

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "james chybicki"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods

>I believe Ed Wagner in Sheboygan, Wisconsin
> does the Oil Modifications on the Ranger Pistons
> Contact the Fairchild Group President for further
> details and telephone numbers
> Good Luck
> Jim Chybicki
> --- Mike Danielle wrote:
>
>> Appreciate it Bob. However, being new to the group,
>> I have no idea where to
>> look for Lee. Can you scan the stuff and e-mail it?
>> Or would snail mail be
>> the best way?
>>
>> Let me know if you need an address.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bob Haas"
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:50 AM
>> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods
>>
>>
>> > Look up Lee Hurry, He has several
>> pages, and lot's of
>> > experience. If you can not find
>> >
>> > It let me know , I'll send it to you. Bob Haas.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _____
>> >
>> > From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
>> > On Behalf Of Michael Danielle
>> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:45 AM
>> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > New to the group, gentlemen.
>> >
>> > I'm looking for details of the piston and cylinder
>> head mods for
>> > reducing oil consumption in the Ranger engine. I
>> thought they might be
>> > in the club's CD but John says they're not.
>> >
>> > Anyone here who can help me get the specs?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Mike Danielle
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
>> removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Jan Servaites · Post by **Jan Servaites** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:29 pm

'I know nothing about these Ranger mods. Would there be an on-line
article that talks about them?
Thanks in advance,
Jan

james chybicki wrote:

> I believe Ed Wagner in Sheboygan, Wisconsin
> does the Oil Modifications on the Ranger Pistons
>
>
>

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Robert Webster · Post by **Robert Webster** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:56 pm

'It is called the Menasco Mod and is a few holes drilled below (above - it is an inverted engine) the oil ring on the pistons. No changes on the cylinder. John Ferrero did mine (J&C Aircraft Engines) and after break in about 50 hours I am down to 1 to 1.5 quarts per hour. I don't know if John still has new pistons or not.

Bob Webster

----- Original Message -----
From: Jan Servaites
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods

I know nothing about these Ranger mods. Would there be an on-line
article that talks about them?
Thanks in advance,
Jan

james chybicki wrote:

> I believe Ed Wagner in Sheboygan, Wisconsin
> does the Oil Modifications on the Ranger Pistons
>
>
>

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Mike Danielle · Post by **Mike Danielle** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:04 am

'Hmmmm.... Do you mean 1 to 1.5 PINTS per hour?

MD

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Webster"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods

> It is called the Menasco Mod and is a few holes drilled below (above - it
> is an inverted engine) the oil ring on the pistons. No changes on the
> cylinder. John Ferrero did mine (J&C Aircraft Engines) and after break in
> about 50 hours I am down to 1 to 1.5 quarts per hour. I don't know if
> John still has new pistons or not.
>
> Bob Webster
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jan Servaites
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods
>
>
> I know nothing about these Ranger mods. Would there be an on-line
> article that talks about them?
> Thanks in advance,
> Jan
>
> james chybicki wrote:
>
> > I believe Ed Wagner in Sheboygan, Wisconsin
> > does the Oil Modifications on the Ranger Pistons
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
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Bob Haas · Post by **Bob Haas** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:17 am

'I have six complete .20 over cylinders and pistons complete ready to go when
you need them. Bob Haas.

_____

From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Mike Danielle
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:10 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods

Thanks, Jim. I plan to put together six jugs with all the mods ready for my
next TOH. It sure would be nice to not have to stock oil by the case. Does
Ed have a business name?

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "james chybicki"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods

>I believe Ed Wagner in Sheboygan, Wisconsin
> does the Oil Modifications on the Ranger Pistons
> Contact the Fairchild Group President for further
> details and telephone numbers
> Good Luck
> Jim Chybicki
> --- Mike Danielle wrote:
>
>> Appreciate it Bob. However, being new to the group,
>> I have no idea where to
>> look for Lee. Can you scan the stuff and e-mail it?
>> Or would snail mail be
>> the best way?
>>
>> Let me know if you need an address.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bob Haas"
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:50 AM
>> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods
>>
>>
>> > Look up Lee Hurry, He has several
>> pages, and lot's of
>> > experience. If you can not find
>> >
>> > It let me know , I'll send it to you. Bob Haas.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _____
>> >
>> > From: fairchildclub@
yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:fairchildclub@
yahoogroups.com]
>> > On Behalf Of Michael Danielle
>> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:45 AM
>> > To: fairchildclub@
yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > New to the group, gentlemen.
>> >
>> > I'm looking for details of the piston and cylinder
>> head mods for
>> > reducing oil consumption in the Ranger engine. I
>> thought they might be
>> > in the club's CD but John says they're not.
>> >
>> > Anyone here who can help me get the specs?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Mike Danielle
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
>> removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Curt Kinchen · Post by **Curt Kinchen** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:22 pm

'I suspect he means 1 -1.5 quarts per hour. If you do a search on
Ranger Oil Consumption in the messages, you'll find several
discussions on mods, oil use, etc.

I'm on my 4th Ranger, one had all the mods(drilled pistons with
chamfered ring groove, sludge plug o-rings, intake valve seals, tight
bearings, etc), one none, one some, and my latest with none. All
have used between 1-1.5 quarts depending on how hard they were being
pushed. I've not heard anyone real happy with anything but standard
rings.

I'm don't think much, if anything, is gained with the mods. Resign
yourself to using over a quart an hour and if you get a bit below
that be happy. That's just the way Rangers are.

The lowest reliable consumption I've ever heard of is .75 quarts/hour.

Curt Kinchen

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Danielle"
wrote:

>
> Hmmmm.... Do you mean 1 to 1.5 PINTS per hour?
>
> MD
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Webster"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods
>
>
> > It is called the Menasco Mod and is a few holes drilled below

(above - it

> > is an inverted engine) the oil ring on the pistons. No changes

on the

> > cylinder. John Ferrero did mine (J&C Aircraft Engines) and after

break in

> > about 50 hours I am down to 1 to 1.5 quarts per hour. I don't

know if

> > John still has new pistons or not.
> >
> > Bob Webster
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jan Servaites
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 5:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Ranger Mods
> >
> >
> > I know nothing about these Ranger mods. Would there be an on-line
> > article that talks about them?
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Jan
> >
> > james chybicki wrote:
> >
> > > I believe Ed Wagner in Sheboygan, Wisconsin
> > > does the Oil Modifications on the Ranger Pistons
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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