Fairchild Club Forum

'Hello group! My wife and I are currently restoring 2 Model 24s, first
serial W46-182, N81282, and a UC-61A, W41A-373. The UC served at
Wright Field from February 1943 until April 1945. We intend to restore
this airplane to its wartime appearance

Both fuselages are ready for bead blast and paint, and we were
wondering if anyone in the group could provide the finish
specifications for the UC-61. We also need guidance on the interior
appearance, i.e. the fabrics and colors used, stenciling and so forth.

Thanks so much!

Ashley and Peggy Messenger'

'The only help that I can be is I can send you a small piece of original interior fabric from the arm rest. It of Olive Drab, with a weave pattern that I believe would be difficult to duplicate. Where else in the cabin would it have been used, is your guess.

I will need a mailing address.
Bob Etter
PO Box 974
Tonopah, NV 89049
775-482-6820
rletter@citlink.net


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'Bob

I would very much appreciate the swatch! Our airplane has none of the original interior materials or paint left. Your sample would enable me to at least come as close as modern suppies will allow. When the airplane was sold to Pure Oil in 1945, they completely re-did the interior, including fairing over the skylight, then there is evidence of at least one other re-upholster job.

We are at:
Ashley Messenger
9021 E Main St
Alexandria, KY., 41001

Thanks again!

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'Hi All-
fir the UC-61 models, the interior was an origianl
salmon color weave material. To get some made, we
would need at least 100 yards on the order and a cost
of $25.00-30.00 estimate per yard was beyond our
scope.
My partner Bob and I tried our best to find anything
close. We contacted other UC-61 owners all over the
world and nobody has an original interior, except
Leeroy Wulner in Iowa. He has a sister ship to our
UC-61K disassembled in his garage. I will forward some
pictures that Leroy sent to me. We chose Avex-Interior
color Sandlewood Headliner material for our
restoration. My partner Bob hand made the headliner
and interior patterns and we may be able to assist
anyone in the group with questions.

good luck
Jim Chybicki & Bob Coon
UC-61K 43-14946 /HB-690

--- Ashley Messenger wrote:

> Bob
>
> I would very much appreciate the swatch! Our
> airplane has none of the original interior materials
> or paint left. Your sample would enable me to at
> least come as close as modern suppies will allow.
> When the airplane was sold to Pure Oil in 1945, they
> completely re-did the interior, including fairing
> over the skylight, then there is evidence of at
> least one other re-upholster job.
>
> We are at:
> Ashley Messenger
> 9021 E Main St
> Alexandria, KY., 41001
>
> Thanks again!
>
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> removed]
>
>

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'Hello Ashley and Peggy,

Good to hear two more Fairchilds are on the way back to the air. To my
knowledge, serial # 373, 43-14409 is the second UC-61A produced.

For the interior of the UC-61A there are a number of pictures in the
T.O. AN 01-115CA-1 and -2. I have nearby a restoration project of
UC-61A # 430. On the wings there is still the war time fabric and
paint including star. I would be able to provide paint samples if you
wish.

On the front seats there is still the , what we believe, original
salmson colored fabric. I can provide a few pictures of stencelling as
well.

Regards

Karl Saenger, UC-61K # 891



--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "amsnaproll1"
wrote:

>
> Hello group! My wife and I are currently restoring 2 Model 24s, first
> serial W46-182, N81282, and a UC-61A, W41A-373. The UC served at
> Wright Field from February 1943 until April 1945. We intend to restore
> this airplane to its wartime appearance
>
> Both fuselages are ready for bead blast and paint, and we were
> wondering if anyone in the group could provide the finish
> specifications for the UC-61. We also need guidance on the interior
> appearance, i.e. the fabrics and colors used, stenciling and so forth.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Ashley and Peggy Messenger
>

'

'Karl

We would be thrilled with any pictures you could provide for us! Do you know how the fuselage tubing was painted? We believe that the frame is zinc chromate, but are unsure what was applied to the visible structure in the cockpit.

Thanks again!

Ashley and Peggy

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'Great to learn that more F24 will be fling soon-! WE have any members in the
UK-? I will be over there in March and should like to catch with someone
with common interests and see how the Brits do it-?

N81229 is getting an instrument face lift and have found an abundance of
previously completed (work-?) that was less than desirable or acceptable to
FAR. Looks like this A/C will be in REAL airworthy condition for the first
time in numerous years although it has been flying all that time-!

Happy Holidays from the Air Capital
Fly safe out there you all and go see www.councilofchiefs.org and
www.russellaire.com


Dick Russell, 81229

Dick Russell, IPA#28302
US Section Region 29
Retired Sacramento Sheriff, California DOJ, Air Force Security Police
Superintendent and Army CID

visit my web site at www.Russellaire.com
-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Karl Saenger
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:14 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Restoration advice


Hello Ashley and Peggy,

Good to hear two more Fairchilds are on the way back to the air. To my
knowledge, serial # 373, 43-14409 is the second UC-61A produced.

For the interior of the UC-61A there are a number of pictures in the
T.O. AN 01-115CA-1 and -2. I have nearby a restoration project of
UC-61A # 430. On the wings there is still the war time fabric and
paint including star. I would be able to provide paint samples if you
wish.

On the front seats there is still the , what we believe, original
salmson colored fabric. I can provide a few pictures of stencelling as
well.

Regards

Karl Saenger, UC-61K # 891

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "amsnaproll1"
wrote:

>
> Hello group! My wife and I are currently restoring 2 Model 24s, first
> serial W46-182, N81282, and a UC-61A, W41A-373. The UC served at
> Wright Field from February 1943 until April 1945. We intend to restore
> this airplane to its wartime appearance
>
> Both fuselages are ready for bead blast and paint, and we were
> wondering if anyone in the group could provide the finish
> specifications for the UC-61. We also need guidance on the interior
> appearance, i.e. the fabrics and colors used, stenciling and so forth.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Ashley and Peggy Messenger
>

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'Ashley and Peggy -

I would bet a large Christmas gift that our restoration expert in Colorado,
Jamie Treat, or our member at Whidbey Island will have some suitable
pictures for you...

Dick Russell, 81229

Dick Russell, IPA#28302
US Section Region 29
Retired Sacramento Sheriff, California DOJ, Air Force Security Police
Superintendent and Army CID

visit my web site at www.Russellaire.com
-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ashley Messenger
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 6:23 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: Restoration advice


Karl

We would be thrilled with any pictures you could provide for us! Do you
know how the fuselage tubing was painted? We believe that the frame is zinc
chromate, but are unsure what was applied to the visible structure in the
cockpit.

Thanks again!

Ashley and Peggy

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'Ashley & Peggy,

Email me direct for pictures.

Jamietreat@hughes.net

Jamie

Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106
Kelly Airpark (CO15)

Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130

----- Original Message -----
From: Chief Russell
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 6:37 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] RE: [Fairchild club] Re: Restoration advice


Ashley and Peggy -

I would bet a large Christmas gift that our restoration expert in Colorado,
Jamie Treat, or our member at Whidbey Island will have some suitable
pictures for you...

Dick Russell, 81229

Dick Russell, IPA#28302
US Section Region 29
Retired Sacramento Sheriff, California DOJ, Air Force Security Police
Superintendent and Army CID

visit my web site at www.Russellaire.com
-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ashley Messenger
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 6:23 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: Restoration advice

Karl

We would be thrilled with any pictures you could provide for us! Do you
know how the fuselage tubing was painted? We believe that the frame is zinc
chromate, but are unsure what was applied to the visible structure in the
cockpit.

Thanks again!

Ashley and Peggy

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'Jamie -

You be a good man, especially with your current weather in CO...

DR 81229


-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jamie Treat
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 8:17 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] RE: [Fairchild club] Re: Restoration advice



Ashley & Peggy,

Email me direct for pictures.

Jamietreat@hughes.net

Jamie

Jamie S. Treat
Aircraft Restoration & Repair
24201 David C. Johnson Loop
Elbert, CO 80106
Kelly Airpark (CO15)

Hm/Hgr 303-648-0130

----- Original Message -----
From: Chief Russell
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 6:37 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] RE: [Fairchild club] Re: Restoration advice

Ashley and Peggy -

I would bet a large Christmas gift that our restoration expert in
Colorado,
Jamie Treat, or our member at Whidbey Island will have some suitable
pictures for you...

Dick Russell, 81229

Dick Russell, IPA#28302
US Section Region 29
Retired Sacramento Sheriff, California DOJ, Air Force Security Police
Superintendent and Army CID

visit my web site at www.Russellaire.com
-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ashley Messenger
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 6:23 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: Restoration advice

Karl

We would be thrilled with any pictures you could provide for us! Do you
know how the fuselage tubing was painted? We believe that the frame is
zinc
chromate, but are unsure what was applied to the visible structure in the
cockpit.

Thanks again!

Ashley and Peggy

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