Fairchild Club Forum

Posted: **Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:48 pm**

'Sorry for asking again but just for the record, could anyone please state
FULL particulars on converting to Cleveland wheels and brakes on a F-24?

I contacted one source for Cessna 310 wheels and he said he had plenty of
them..Goodyear wheels though, not Cleveland. Not a good start. Another asked
what size of tire I wanted to use. Another suggested something off an Aztec might
be better. Shyt..I'm getting nowhere.

Jamie Treat was very helpful in detailed info on the 310/210 relationship and it sounds
like a nice workable combination but I could sure use some help in sources or
applications for new or used, or part numbers would be really nice. Thanks..

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
F-24 C-FDAE in restoration

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Posted: **Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:02 pm**

'I have not put a set on a F24 but am familiar with these. The
Fairchild uses a big inner/little outer bearing. The spacing for the
Cleveland kit requires that the axle be pulled outward and rotated
90deg(to allow a fresh hole for the retaining bolt. The axle needs to
be pulled outward by 3/16 - 1/4. This is to keep the rotor centered
about the caliper and torque plate. Many, many , many Wacos use this
Cleveland Cessna 310 conversion kit #199-64(I think) and they have
NOT changed the masters which are the same Hayes '37 Desoto,Chrysler
units that Fairchild use. They seem to be doing just fine with out
needing bushing. The torque plate should bolt to the brake plate
flange with no ordeal. The bearings slide right on. The seal may or
may not, this is an unspoken hush hush area. If a Fairchild axle seal
journal is 1-3/4" OK, if 1-13/16" ..nope won't fit, fix it yourself.
The nut and washer fit, the hub cap gets discarded or punched to fit
for wheel pant bracket. The hose will be a -4 and the caliper takes
AN -4 fittings either with a union or bulkhead fitting and nut and o-
ring. On an F24 you may have to swing the caliper on the bottom to
clear pants, the torque plate can mount in about every 45deg to allow
this.
Now, it sounds like you're trying to get this on the cheap....ain't
gonna happen. There are none of these in the junk yards. You can try
but good luck. I have found one set that Preferred Airparts had..the
rotors were wasted, brgs rusted,and who knows what the wheels were
like...think of the hamfisted nut behind that heavy 310 smacking the
tarmac...there's a reason it was in the junkyard!!! The cost of
admission here is $2025 at Aircraft Spruce(they get them from
Aviall). The only way you're getting them cheaper is to get the
jobber price and I don't think you are getting in for less than
$1700. So for all those who don't have any Pixie dust to sprinkle on
their expander tube system dig deep.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "david stroud"
wrote:

>
> Sorry for asking again but just for the record, could anyone please

state

> FULL particulars on converting to Cleveland wheels and brakes on a

F-24?

>
> I contacted one source for Cessna 310 wheels and he said he had

plenty of

> them..Goodyear wheels though, not Cleveland. Not a good start.

Another asked

> what size of tire I wanted to use. Another suggested something off

an Aztec might

> be better. Shyt..I'm getting nowhere.
>
> Jamie Treat was very helpful in detailed info on the 310/210

relationship and it sounds

> like a nice workable combination but I could sure use some help in

sources or

> applications for new or used, or part numbers would be really nice.

Thanks..

>
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> C-FDWS Christavia
> F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

'

Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:04 am**

'Thank you for the detailed explanation of what is involved. No..I'm not trying to
get this done on the cheap, but I do a lot of horse trading and I'm just not familiar
with what I really need for this part of the project. There may be other possibilities.

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
F-24 C-FDAE in restoration

----- Original Message -----
From: ranger440c5
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:02 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Cleveland wheels and brakes again

I have not put a set on a F24 but am familiar with these. The
Fairchild uses a big inner/little outer bearing. The spacing for the
Cleveland kit requires that the axle be pulled outward and rotated
90deg(to allow a fresh hole for the retaining bolt. The axle needs to
be pulled outward by 3/16 - 1/4. This is to keep the rotor centered
about the caliper and torque plate. Many, many , many Wacos use this
Cleveland Cessna 310 conversion kit #199-64(I think) and they have
NOT changed the masters which are the same Hayes '37 Desoto,Chrysler
units that Fairchild use. They seem to be doing just fine with out
needing bushing. The torque plate should bolt to the brake plate
flange with no ordeal. The bearings slide right on. The seal may or
may not, this is an unspoken hush hush area. If a Fairchild axle seal
journal is 1-3/4" OK, if 1-13/16" ..nope won't fit, fix it yourself.
The nut and washer fit, the hub cap gets discarded or punched to fit
for wheel pant bracket. The hose will be a -4 and the caliper takes
AN -4 fittings either with a union or bulkhead fitting and nut and o-
ring. On an F24 you may have to swing the caliper on the bottom to
clear pants, the torque plate can mount in about every 45deg to allow
this.
Now, it sounds like you're trying to get this on the cheap....ain't
gonna happen. There are none of these in the junk yards. You can try
but good luck. I have found one set that Preferred Airparts had..the
rotors were wasted, brgs rusted,and who knows what the wheels were
like...think of the hamfisted nut behind that heavy 310 smacking the
tarmac...there's a reason it was in the junkyard!!! The cost of
admission here is $2025 at Aircraft Spruce(they get them from
Aviall). The only way you're getting them cheaper is to get the
jobber price and I don't think you are getting in for less than
$1700. So for all those who don't have any Pixie dust to sprinkle on
their expander tube system dig deep.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "david stroud"
wrote:
>
> Sorry for asking again but just for the record, could anyone please
state
> FULL particulars on converting to Cleveland wheels and brakes on a
F-24?
>
> I contacted one source for Cessna 310 wheels and he said he had
plenty of
> them..Goodyear wheels though, not Cleveland. Not a good start.
Another asked
> what size of tire I wanted to use. Another suggested something off
an Aztec might
> be better. Shyt..I'm getting nowhere.
>
> Jamie Treat was very helpful in detailed info on the 310/210
relationship and it sounds
> like a nice workable combination but I could sure use some help in
sources or
> applications for new or used, or part numbers would be really nice.
Thanks..
>
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> C-FDWS Christavia
> F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:30 am**

'You had asked about p/n's.....
Kit # 199-64
tire size 6.50 -10
Wheel assembly.... #40-40B
Standard disc (no special treatment,IE: plated) #164-01406
Chrome disc NA
Brake assembly #30-28D
Lining #066-03300

Now, this kit #199-64 includes 2 wheel assemblies and 2 brake
assemblies.
A brake assembly consists of the caliper,linings,pressure
plate,fittings,torque plate.
A wheel assembly consists of wheel halves, tie bolts, brgs, seals,
snap rings, hub cap, rotor,etc.
In other words, all you need EXCEPT: Hardware to mount torque plate,
axle nut, key washer, cotter pin, tires, tubes, grease, hose, entry
fitting to caliper, fluid, and air for the tubes.
You provide $2000 for the 199-64 kit, $230 for the tires, $? for the
tubes, hoses, torque plate mounting hardware, axle nut, keywasher,
cotter pin, grease, fluid, and air.
Without seeing your correspondence with Jamie, by 210/310
relationship, we must assume you are referring to the "hot" setup
with restorers (esp. Wacos). This is a sound concept and is win, win
other than any paperwork issues that might arise when dealing with
various FSDO's for the blk3 337 signoff , but of course, you get the
337 approved first before spending money. The only other issue may be
cost in assembling various NEW components and the machining to do
this. It may exceed a kit price. Your call.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "david stroud"
wrote:

>
> Thank you for the detailed explanation of what is involved. No..I'm

not trying to

> get this done on the cheap, but I do a lot of horse trading and I'm

just not familiar

> with what I really need for this part of the project. There may be

other possibilities.

>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> C-FDWS Christavia
> F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ranger440c5
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:02 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Cleveland wheels and brakes again
>
>
> I have not put a set on a F24 but am familiar with these. The
> Fairchild uses a big inner/little outer bearing. The spacing for

the

> Cleveland kit requires that the axle be pulled outward and

rotated

> 90deg(to allow a fresh hole for the retaining bolt. The axle

needs to

> be pulled outward by 3/16 - 1/4. This is to keep the rotor

centered

> about the caliper and torque plate. Many, many , many Wacos use

this

> Cleveland Cessna 310 conversion kit #199-64(I think) and they

have

> NOT changed the masters which are the same Hayes '37

Desoto,Chrysler

> units that Fairchild use. They seem to be doing just fine with

out

> needing bushing. The torque plate should bolt to the brake plate
> flange with no ordeal. The bearings slide right on. The seal may

or

> may not, this is an unspoken hush hush area. If a Fairchild axle

seal

> journal is 1-3/4" OK, if 1-13/16" ..nope won't fit, fix it

yourself.

> The nut and washer fit, the hub cap gets discarded or punched to

fit

> for wheel pant bracket. The hose will be a -4 and the caliper

takes

> AN -4 fittings either with a union or bulkhead fitting and nut

and o-

> ring. On an F24 you may have to swing the caliper on the bottom

to

> clear pants, the torque plate can mount in about every 45deg to

allow

> this.
> Now, it sounds like you're trying to get this on the

cheap....ain't

> gonna happen. There are none of these in the junk yards. You can

try

> but good luck. I have found one set that Preferred Airparts

had..the

> rotors were wasted, brgs rusted,and who knows what the wheels

were

> like...think of the hamfisted nut behind that heavy 310 smacking

the

> tarmac...there's a reason it was in the junkyard!!! The cost of
> admission here is $2025 at Aircraft Spruce(they get them from
> Aviall). The only way you're getting them cheaper is to get the
> jobber price and I don't think you are getting in for less than
> $1700. So for all those who don't have any Pixie dust to sprinkle

on

> their expander tube system dig deep.
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "david stroud"

> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for asking again but just for the record, could anyone

please

> state
> > FULL particulars on converting to Cleveland wheels and brakes

on a

> F-24?
> >
> > I contacted one source for Cessna 310 wheels and he said he

had

> plenty of
> > them..Goodyear wheels though, not Cleveland. Not a good start.
> Another asked
> > what size of tire I wanted to use. Another suggested something

off

> an Aztec might
> > be better. Shyt..I'm getting nowhere.
> >
> > Jamie Treat was very helpful in detailed info on the 310/210
> relationship and it sounds
> > like a nice workable combination but I could sure use some help

in

> sources or
> > applications for new or used, or part numbers would be really

nice.

> Thanks..
> >
> >
> > David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> > C-FDWS Christavia
> > F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:45 am**

'David the information the Cleveland conversion is in the letter I sent you.
John Berendt

----- Original Message -----
From: "david stroud"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:40 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Cleveland wheels and brakes again

> Sorry for asking again but just for the record, could anyone please state
> FULL particulars on converting to Cleveland wheels and brakes on a F-24?
>
> I contacted one source for Cessna 310 wheels and he said he had plenty of
> them..Goodyear wheels though, not Cleveland. Not a good start. Another
asked
> what size of tire I wanted to use. Another suggested something off an
Aztec might
> be better. Shyt..I'm getting nowhere.
>
> Jamie Treat was very helpful in detailed info on the 310/210 relationship
and it sounds
> like a nice workable combination but I could sure use some help in sources
or
> applications for new or used, or part numbers would be really nice.
Thanks..
>
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> C-FDWS Christavia
> F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:49 am**

'Has anyone tried the Navajho tire/brake system? There might be a few more of those around.

----- Original Message -----
From: ranger440c5
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:29 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Cleveland wheels and brakes again

You had asked about p/n's.....
Kit # 199-64
tire size 6.50 -10
Wheel assembly.... #40-40B
Standard disc (no special treatment,IE: plated) #164-01406
Chrome disc NA
Brake assembly #30-28D
Lining #066-03300

Now, this kit #199-64 includes 2 wheel assemblies and 2 brake
assemblies.
A brake assembly consists of the caliper,linings,pressure
plate,fittings,torque plate.
A wheel assembly consists of wheel halves, tie bolts, brgs, seals,
snap rings, hub cap, rotor,etc.
In other words, all you need EXCEPT: Hardware to mount torque plate,
axle nut, key washer, cotter pin, tires, tubes, grease, hose, entry
fitting to caliper, fluid, and air for the tubes.
You provide $2000 for the 199-64 kit, $230 for the tires, $? for the
tubes, hoses, torque plate mounting hardware, axle nut, keywasher,
cotter pin, grease, fluid, and air.
Without seeing your correspondence with Jamie, by 210/310
relationship, we must assume you are referring to the "hot" setup
with restorers (esp. Wacos). This is a sound concept and is win, win
other than any paperwork issues that might arise when dealing with
various FSDO's for the blk3 337 signoff , but of course, you get the
337 approved first before spending money. The only other issue may be
cost in assembling various NEW components and the machining to do
this. It may exceed a kit price. Your call.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "david stroud"
wrote:
>
> Thank you for the detailed explanation of what is involved. No..I'm
not trying to
> get this done on the cheap, but I do a lot of horse trading and I'm
just not familiar
> with what I really need for this part of the project. There may be
other possibilities.
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> C-FDWS Christavia
> F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ranger440c5
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:02 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Cleveland wheels and brakes again
>
>
> I have not put a set on a F24 but am familiar with these. The
> Fairchild uses a big inner/little outer bearing. The spacing for
the
> Cleveland kit requires that the axle be pulled outward and
rotated
> 90deg(to allow a fresh hole for the retaining bolt. The axle
needs to
> be pulled outward by 3/16 - 1/4. This is to keep the rotor
centered
> about the caliper and torque plate. Many, many , many Wacos use
this
> Cleveland Cessna 310 conversion kit #199-64(I think) and they
have
> NOT changed the masters which are the same Hayes '37
Desoto,Chrysler
> units that Fairchild use. They seem to be doing just fine with
out
> needing bushing. The torque plate should bolt to the brake plate
> flange with no ordeal. The bearings slide right on. The seal may
or
> may not, this is an unspoken hush hush area. If a Fairchild axle
seal
> journal is 1-3/4" OK, if 1-13/16" ..nope won't fit, fix it
yourself.
> The nut and washer fit, the hub cap gets discarded or punched to
fit
> for wheel pant bracket. The hose will be a -4 and the caliper
takes
> AN -4 fittings either with a union or bulkhead fitting and nut
and o-
> ring. On an F24 you may have to swing the caliper on the bottom
to
> clear pants, the torque plate can mount in about every 45deg to
allow
> this.
> Now, it sounds like you're trying to get this on the
cheap....ain't
> gonna happen. There are none of these in the junk yards. You can
try
> but good luck. I have found one set that Preferred Airparts
had..the
> rotors were wasted, brgs rusted,and who knows what the wheels
were
> like...think of the hamfisted nut behind that heavy 310 smacking
the
> tarmac...there's a reason it was in the junkyard!!! The cost of
> admission here is $2025 at Aircraft Spruce(they get them from
> Aviall). The only way you're getting them cheaper is to get the
> jobber price and I don't think you are getting in for less than
> $1700. So for all those who don't have any Pixie dust to sprinkle
on
> their expander tube system dig deep.
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "david stroud"

> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for asking again but just for the record, could anyone
please
> state
> > FULL particulars on converting to Cleveland wheels and brakes
on a
> F-24?
> >
> > I contacted one source for Cessna 310 wheels and he said he
had
> plenty of
> > them..Goodyear wheels though, not Cleveland. Not a good start.
> Another asked
> > what size of tire I wanted to use. Another suggested something
off
> an Aztec might
> > be better. Shyt..I'm getting nowhere.
> >
> > Jamie Treat was very helpful in detailed info on the 310/210
> relationship and it sounds
> > like a nice workable combination but I could sure use some help
in
> sources or
> > applications for new or used, or part numbers would be really
nice.
> Thanks..
> >
> >
> > David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> > C-FDWS Christavia
> > F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:16 pm**

'Dunno. The key is what type axle? The wheel must be the big
bearing/little bearing. This (we'll call it "tapered" for clarity)
axle type was the standard thru maybe the late
50's...Howards,warbirds, PT's of all types, Wacos, Fairchilds,
Staggerwings, T50's, 195s, Stinsons,early 310s, twin bo's, Queenairs.
Then straight axles came into vogue...common inner/outer bearing.
Does not a Navajo have straight axles? If so there is no way to
mount the wheel. You have to get a wheel that mounts to the tapered
axle. Cleveland was not really a player when tapered axles were
standard on new airplanes. So these were equipped with Hayes/Autofan
drum&shoe, Bendix drum& shoe, Hayes/Goodrich drum & expander tube,
Goodyear multidisc ring piston(pre war), or Goodyear floating rotor.
As Cleveland began to rise they became the standard but really only
after everything began to morph into straight axles. To service older
aircraft, Cleveland developed conversion kits.
After the wheel stumbling block there is the torque plate. You need
to match the old bolt pattern, offset, seal journal clearance, and
mount bolt size. The tapered axle does not allow much fiddling with
the wheel positioning, hence why the axle is moved as per Mr.Spriggs
337. On newer straight axle applications, you just adjust the seal
collar to space the wheel. So it would seem you should machine new
straight axles (this is essentially what Waco Classic is doing,
except they change the flange for the torque plate as well). Great,
now we can pick any of a thousand wheels...but
what about the torque plate? What fits? The 310 torque plate appears
to be the only bolt on piece that will work. So now will that torque
plate work with the wheel/caliper chosen? On top of that, for
certified, you will still have to take your homebrew unengineered
(ever read the 337 referanced in Mr. Spriggs 337...wow, some one
calculated loads) collection of parts to the FSDO for a blk 3
signoff. It all becomes a quagmire and is much easier to follow Mr.
Spriggs 337 and pony up the bucks.
Of course you can spend half and properly overhaul the existing
expander tube system. I personally never had a moments trouble with
them once given an end to end, methodical overhaul.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "John Amundsen"
wrote:

>
> Has anyone tried the Navajho tire/brake system? There might be a

few more of those around.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ranger440c5
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:29 AM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Cleveland wheels and brakes again
>
>
> You had asked about p/n's.....
> Kit # 199-64
> tire size 6.50 -10
> Wheel assembly.... #40-40B
> Standard disc (no special treatment,IE: plated) #164-01406
> Chrome disc NA
> Brake assembly #30-28D
> Lining #066-03300
>
> Now, this kit #199-64 includes 2 wheel assemblies and 2 brake
> assemblies.
> A brake assembly consists of the caliper,linings,pressure
> plate,fittings,torque plate.
> A wheel assembly consists of wheel halves, tie bolts, brgs,

seals,

> snap rings, hub cap, rotor,etc.
> In other words, all you need EXCEPT: Hardware to mount torque

plate,

> axle nut, key washer, cotter pin, tires, tubes, grease, hose,

entry

> fitting to caliper, fluid, and air for the tubes.
> You provide $2000 for the 199-64 kit, $230 for the tires, $? for

the

> tubes, hoses, torque plate mounting hardware, axle nut,

keywasher,

> cotter pin, grease, fluid, and air.
> Without seeing your correspondence with Jamie, by 210/310
> relationship, we must assume you are referring to the "hot" setup
> with restorers (esp. Wacos). This is a sound concept and is win,

win

> other than any paperwork issues that might arise when dealing

with

> various FSDO's for the blk3 337 signoff , but of course, you get

the

> 337 approved first before spending money. The only other issue

may be

> cost in assembling various NEW components and the machining to do
> this. It may exceed a kit price. Your call.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "david stroud"

> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for the detailed explanation of what is involved.

No..I'm

> not trying to
> > get this done on the cheap, but I do a lot of horse trading and

I'm

> just not familiar
> > with what I really need for this part of the project. There may

be

> other possibilities.
> >
> > David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> > C-FDWS Christavia
> > F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ranger440c5
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:02 PM
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Cleveland wheels and brakes again
> >
> >
> > I have not put a set on a F24 but am familiar with these.

The

> > Fairchild uses a big inner/little outer bearing. The spacing

for

> the
> > Cleveland kit requires that the axle be pulled outward and
> rotated
> > 90deg(to allow a fresh hole for the retaining bolt. The axle
> needs to
> > be pulled outward by 3/16 - 1/4. This is to keep the rotor
> centered
> > about the caliper and torque plate. Many, many , many Wacos

use

> this
> > Cleveland Cessna 310 conversion kit #199-64(I think) and they
> have
> > NOT changed the masters which are the same Hayes '37
> Desoto,Chrysler
> > units that Fairchild use. They seem to be doing just fine

with

> out
> > needing bushing. The torque plate should bolt to the brake

plate

> > flange with no ordeal. The bearings slide right on. The seal

may

> or
> > may not, this is an unspoken hush hush area. If a Fairchild

axle

> seal
> > journal is 1-3/4" OK, if 1-13/16" ..nope won't fit, fix it
> yourself.
> > The nut and washer fit, the hub cap gets discarded or punched

to

> fit
> > for wheel pant bracket. The hose will be a -4 and the caliper
> takes
> > AN -4 fittings either with a union or bulkhead fitting and

nut

> and o-
> > ring. On an F24 you may have to swing the caliper on the

bottom

> to
> > clear pants, the torque plate can mount in about every 45deg

to

> allow
> > this.
> > Now, it sounds like you're trying to get this on the
> cheap....ain't
> > gonna happen. There are none of these in the junk yards. You

can

> try
> > but good luck. I have found one set that Preferred Airparts
> had..the
> > rotors were wasted, brgs rusted,and who knows what the wheels
> were
> > like...think of the hamfisted nut behind that heavy 310

smacking

> the
> > tarmac...there's a reason it was in the junkyard!!! The cost

of

> > admission here is $2025 at Aircraft Spruce(they get them from
> > Aviall). The only way you're getting them cheaper is to get

the

> > jobber price and I don't think you are getting in for less

than

> > $1700. So for all those who don't have any Pixie dust to

sprinkle

> on
> > their expander tube system dig deep.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "david stroud"
>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry for asking again but just for the record, could

anyone

> please
> > state
> > > FULL particulars on converting to Cleveland wheels and

brakes

> on a
> > F-24?
> > >
> > > I contacted one source for Cessna 310 wheels and he said he
> had
> > plenty of
> > > them..Goodyear wheels though, not Cleveland. Not a good

start.

> > Another asked
> > > what size of tire I wanted to use. Another suggested

something

> off
> > an Aztec might
> > > be better. Shyt..I'm getting nowhere.
> > >
> > > Jamie Treat was very helpful in detailed info on the

310/210

> > relationship and it sounds
> > > like a nice workable combination but I could sure use some

help

> in
> > sources or
> > > applications for new or used, or part numbers would be

really

> nice.
> > Thanks..
> > >
> > >
> > > David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> > > C-FDWS Christavia
> > > F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
> > >
> > >
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