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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chief Russell"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:44 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] RE: [Fairchild club] F24 fuselage stringers


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> Dave:
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> Dick Russell, Wichita, KS
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: davestroud [mailto:davestroud@rogers.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 8:43 PM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [fairchildclub] F24 fuselage stringers
>
>
> Lads my F24 ( in need of full restoration ) arrived today and I can't say
> how please I am
> to have it. The right wing is shot as was indicated by the seller but the
> fuselage is in great
> shape. One thing I noticed was that someone else had his hand in some
> restoration earlier
> and contrary to what I saw on Tom Downey's site, the fuselage stringers at
> least on the upper
> fuselage area in the turtle deck area are not wood, but 6061 T6 round
> aluminum, 1/2" .035 tube.
> We didn't get a chance to examine the lower stringers etc and maybe they
> are the same way.
> Has anyone else seen or heard of round aluminum stringers being used?
>
> On another note, I cannot believe the amount of paperwork that came with
> the airplane. I'm
> embarassed at the way I take care of paperwork even around the house after
> examining the
> trail of crumbs these owners left behind. Several owners contributed to a
> short list of owners
> since '41 even including interesting anecdotes about the sale price of the
> plane from various
> owners to the next. There's even the documentation decertifying the
> airplane from the US and
> recertifying it up in Canada. It was a UC61 at one time having done some
> military duty.
>
> As a side note to John Berendt..I had no idea of how much paperwork would
> come with the
> plane and in fact just about every drawing, parts list, POH type things
> all came with it in
> duplicate. I appreciate your reply earlier about my manuals question which
> you sent directly to
> me and will send a cheque shortly to join the Fairchild Club.
>
> It's been a real nice day..in fact one hell of a nice day.
>
> David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> F24 C-FDAE in restoration
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> Lads my F24 ( in need of full restoration ) arrived
> today and I can't say how please I am
> to have it. The right wing is shot as was indicated
> by the seller but the fuselage is in great
> shape. One thing I noticed was that someone else had
> his hand in some restoration earlier
> and contrary to what I saw on Tom Downey's site, the
> fuselage stringers at least on the upper
> fuselage area in the turtle deck area are not wood,
> but 6061 T6 round aluminum, 1/2" .035 tube.
> We didn't get a chance to examine the lower
> stringers etc and maybe they are the same way.
> Has anyone else seen or heard of round aluminum
> stringers being used?
>
> On another note, I cannot believe the amount of
> paperwork that came with the airplane. I'm
> embarassed at the way I take care of paperwork even
> around the house after examining the
> trail of crumbs these owners left behind. Several
> owners contributed to a short list of owners
> since '41 even including interesting anecdotes about
> the sale price of the plane from various
> owners to the next. There's even the documentation
> decertifying the airplane from the US and
> recertifying it up in Canada. It was a UC61 at one
> time having done some military duty.
>
> As a side note to John Berendt..I had no idea of how
> much paperwork would come with the
> plane and in fact just about every drawing, parts
> list, POH type things all came with it in
> duplicate. I appreciate your reply earlier about my
> manuals question which you sent directly to
> me and will send a cheque shortly to join the
> Fairchild Club.
>
> It's been a real nice day..in fact one hell of a
> nice day.
>
> David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> F24 C-FDAE in restoration
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "james chybicki"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] F24 fuselage stringers


>
> Hello David-
> Congradulations! It's a Fairchild 24! I personally
> never heard of aluminum stringers, but anything is
> possible out there! Are there any 337 forms indicating
> the conversion from wood?
> You say it was a UC-61, do you know the US Army
> Airforce serial number? Does your new plane have cable
> fuel and mixture controls or the UC-61 type levers and
> pullies?
> once again, congradulations to the new dad!
> Jim C.
> UC-61K 43-14964/ HB-690
>
> --- davestroud wrote:
>
> > Lads my F24 ( in need of full restoration ) arrived
> > today and I can't say how please I am
> > to have it. The right wing is shot as was indicated
> > by the seller but the fuselage is in great
> > shape. One thing I noticed was that someone else had
> > his hand in some restoration earlier
> > and contrary to what I saw on Tom Downey's site, the
> > fuselage stringers at least on the upper
> > fuselage area in the turtle deck area are not wood,
> > but 6061 T6 round aluminum, 1/2" .035 tube.
> > We didn't get a chance to examine the lower
> > stringers etc and maybe they are the same way.
> > Has anyone else seen or heard of round aluminum
> > stringers being used?
> >
> > On another note, I cannot believe the amount of
> > paperwork that came with the airplane. I'm
> > embarassed at the way I take care of paperwork even
> > around the house after examining the
> > trail of crumbs these owners left behind. Several
> > owners contributed to a short list of owners
> > since '41 even including interesting anecdotes about
> > the sale price of the plane from various
> > owners to the next. There's even the documentation
> > decertifying the airplane from the US and
> > recertifying it up in Canada. It was a UC61 at one
> > time having done some military duty.
> >
> > As a side note to John Berendt..I had no idea of how
> > much paperwork would come with the
> > plane and in fact just about every drawing, parts
> > list, POH type things all came with it in
> > duplicate. I appreciate your reply earlier about my
> > manuals question which you sent directly to
> > me and will send a cheque shortly to join the
> > Fairchild Club.
> >
> > It's been a real nice day..in fact one hell of a
> > nice day.
> >
> > David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
> > Christavia C-FDWS
> > F24 C-FDAE in restoration
> >
> >
>
>
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> Thanks for the congrats, Jim. I haven't gotten into
> the books long
> enough to find the mod for the aluminum stringers.
> We did check today and
> it looks as if we have aluminum stringers all round
> the fuselage though.
>
> It took most of the day to get the engine off and as
> the weather's been real
> good, we didn't take any time for casual exploring.
> For the fuel and mixture, there
> is a fine array of levers built into the top/rear of
> the engine mount activated by clevis
> rod ends coming thru the firewall near the top. No
> pullies FWF though. I was surprise
> how robust the engine mount is built.
>
> There is a copy of a form in the pile of
> documentation showing that the Pure Oil
> Company of Chicago applied for registration of this
> aircraft in Mar 22, 1945
> and it appears to be some kind of dual
> registration...24w-41A and AAF UC-61A
> serial number 373 and AAF no 43-14409.
>
> David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> F24 C-FDAE in restoration
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "james chybicki"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] F24 fuselage stringers
>
>
> >
> > Hello David-
> > Congradulations! It's a Fairchild 24! I personally
> > never heard of aluminum stringers, but anything is
> > possible out there! Are there any 337 forms
> indicating
> > the conversion from wood?
> > You say it was a UC-61, do you know the US Army
> > Airforce serial number? Does your new plane have
> cable
> > fuel and mixture controls or the UC-61 type levers
> and
> > pullies?
> > once again, congradulations to the new dad!
> > Jim C.
> > UC-61K 43-14964/ HB-690
> >
> > --- davestroud wrote:
> >
> > > Lads my F24 ( in need of full restoration )
> arrived
> > > today and I can't say how please I am
> > > to have it. The right wing is shot as was
> indicated
> > > by the seller but the fuselage is in great
> > > shape. One thing I noticed was that someone else
> had
> > > his hand in some restoration earlier
> > > and contrary to what I saw on Tom Downey's site,
> the
> > > fuselage stringers at least on the upper
> > > fuselage area in the turtle deck area are not
> wood,
> > > but 6061 T6 round aluminum, 1/2" .035 tube.
> > > We didn't get a chance to examine the lower
> > > stringers etc and maybe they are the same way.
> > > Has anyone else seen or heard of round aluminum
> > > stringers being used?
> > >
> > > On another note, I cannot believe the amount of
> > > paperwork that came with the airplane. I'm
> > > embarassed at the way I take care of paperwork
> even
> > > around the house after examining the
> > > trail of crumbs these owners left behind.
> Several
> > > owners contributed to a short list of owners
> > > since '41 even including interesting anecdotes
> about
> > > the sale price of the plane from various
> > > owners to the next. There's even the
> documentation
> > > decertifying the airplane from the US and
> > > recertifying it up in Canada. It was a UC61 at
> one
> > > time having done some military duty.
> > >
> > > As a side note to John Berendt..I had no idea of
> how
> > > much paperwork would come with the
> > > plane and in fact just about every drawing,
> parts
> > > list, POH type things all came with it in
> > > duplicate. I appreciate your reply earlier about
> my
> > > manuals question which you sent directly to
> > > me and will send a cheque shortly to join the
> > > Fairchild Club.
> > >
> > > It's been a real nice day..in fact one hell of a
> > > nice day.
> > >
> > > David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
> > > Christavia C-FDWS
> > > F24 C-FDAE in restoration
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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----- Original Message -----
From: "james chybicki"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] F24 fuselage stringers


>
> Hi David!
> Its like Christmas! The more you dig the more you
> learn about the plane and how great it is to own a
> F24.
> My partner Bob and I purchased a bunch of US Army
> Airforce surplus UC-61 parts, a majority of them are
> for the A model, (Warner F24) When you get to
> rebuilding, let me know and I will see if we can help!
> These are really great aircraft! Can't wait to get
> ours up and going! With the hours we can dedicate,
> hopefully we can fly in about 2 years
> Post pictures on the web site! I created a UC-61
> folder for anyone with pictures and info on the UC-61
> versions of the F-24.
> Does your plane still have the quick release doors?
> how about the 3 recognition lights in the belly?
> let me know, keep in touch
> Jim