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Re: AIRPLANES and STUFF!

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 8:31 pm
by Thekortas@aol.com
'Hello everyone! I received a call the other day that an old QB friend had
passed away and that his estate is being disposed of. There were always
great stories about this guys stuff but no one really seemed to have seen it
in at least ten years. He operated a flying service in Agawam, Massachusetts
on the Connecticut River across from Springfield, MA. He favored Fairchild
and Taylorcraft aircraft. Unfortunately, while he had no less than three
24W-165s and two Four place Taylorcraft, in addition to a couple of regular
two place Taylorcraft and, I believe, a Luscombe, he didn't do much to
preserve the aircraft when he got too old to run the business anymore. The
24W's were serial numbers 46148, 46197 and 46270. He flew them on floats and
took the aircraft apart apparently when he closed up the business.
I had the opportunity to go and see everything today. All three Fairchild
fuselages are in one tractor trailer container box. The wings were in another
but are now in the garage. One Warner is still on one of the airframes.
Another is hanging on a chain or cable or something in the basement of the
shop and the third is in pieces. There is a LOT or rust and virtually every
part or piece of everything needs total restoration. Some parts missing and
many are scattered throughout the building that housed his business in a
rotting old structure along the shore of the Connecticut River. Frankly
everything is a mess. Don't think that there is anything that could be flying
without the kind of restoration that we all read about where someone takes
the old stuff and uses much of it for patterns. This is not an easy
restoration opportunity.
I told the fellow's grandson that I would come home tonight and post this on
the discussion board because there is possibly somebody out there who might
want to tackle this. Believe me, if I had all the time in the world and a
lot more skill and money than I do there is no one who loves a Warner powered
24 any more than I do. But, this is way beyond me. Plus, I think they
really want to sell this fairly quickly and in large lots. Like all the
Fairchild stuff together and all the Taylorcraft stuff together, etc. But,
they'd have to explain it in their own words. I don't represent them nor did
I know the grandson until today. But don't expect that you could go there and
buy one or two pieces. They want a volume sale and aren't interested in $100
here and there for this mag or that flap, etc..
So, if there is anyone on the discussion board who wants to talk to the
grandson his name is Jim Martel and his home phone in Massachusetts is:
413-789-2554. Just tell him that you got his name and number from the
Fairchild Discussion Board. He seems to be a pretty nice guy. But I think
he's getting a lot of lookers and I couldn't tell whether he thinks this
stuff is valuable or if he's realistic and just wants to move it. I don't
know how many people could really handle what is there in terms of doing a
restoration. Just one last word of advice if you pursue this in any
fashion...don't have high expectations about the quality of this stuff (or
lack thereof!) and you won't be disappointed. Good luck!'

Re: AIRPLANES and STUFF!

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 9:18 am
by John Berendt
'Steve,

The fellow who had the Fairchild's was Walter O'Conner. He was at Oshkosh
several times and told us about the stuff.a few years ago a guy who lived
near Walter and knew him told me about the condition of the parts.-They were
in bad shape then I have no idea what they are worth but, I remember the
auction at Spring Hill PA The parts that Roger mooney has now went for under
$5,000.00 Mike Denest would know about the Mooney parts.Talk to the grandson
I can run a ad in the flyer for him

John Berendt---- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 9:30 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: AIRPLANES and STUFF!

> Hello everyone! I received a call the other day that an old QB friend
had
> passed away and that his estate is being disposed of. There were always
> great stories about this guys stuff but no one really seemed to have seen
it
> in at least ten years. He operated a flying service in Agawam,
Massachusetts
> on the Connecticut River across from Springfield, MA. He favored Fairchild
> and Taylorcraft aircraft. Unfortunately, while he had no less than three
> 24W-165s and two Four place Taylorcraft, in addition to a couple of
regular
> two place Taylorcraft and, I believe, a Luscombe, he didn't do much to
> preserve the aircraft when he got too old to run the business anymore. The
> 24W's were serial numbers 46148, 46197 and 46270. He flew them on floats
and
> took the aircraft apart apparently when he closed up the business.
> I had the opportunity to go and see everything today. All three Fairchild
> fuselages are in one tractor trailer container box. The wings were in
another
> but are now in the garage. One Warner is still on one of the airframes.
> Another is hanging on a chain or cable or something in the basement of the
> shop and the third is in pieces. There is a LOT or rust and virtually
every
> part or piece of everything needs total restoration. Some parts missing
and
> many are scattered throughout the building that housed his business in a
> rotting old structure along the shore of the Connecticut River. Frankly
> everything is a mess. Don't think that there is anything that could be
flying
> without the kind of restoration that we all read about where someone takes
> the old stuff and uses much of it for patterns. This is not an easy
> restoration opportunity.
> I told the fellow's grandson that I would come home tonight and post this
on
> the discussion board because there is possibly somebody out there who
might
> want to tackle this. Believe me, if I had all the time in the world and a
> lot more skill and money than I do there is no one who loves a Warner
powered
> 24 any more than I do. But, this is way beyond me. Plus, I think they
> really want to sell this fairly quickly and in large lots. Like all the
> Fairchild stuff together and all the Taylorcraft stuff together, etc.
But,
> they'd have to explain it in their own words. I don't represent them nor
did
> I know the grandson until today. But don't expect that you could go there
and
> buy one or two pieces. They want a volume sale and aren't interested in
$100
> here and there for this mag or that flap, etc..
> So, if there is anyone on the discussion board who wants to talk to the
> grandson his name is Jim Martel and his home phone in Massachusetts is:
> 413-789-2554. Just tell him that you got his name and number from the
> Fairchild Discussion Board. He seems to be a pretty nice guy. But I
think
> he's getting a lot of lookers and I couldn't tell whether he thinks this
> stuff is valuable or if he's realistic and just wants to move it. I don't
> know how many people could really handle what is there in terms of doing a
> restoration. Just one last word of advice if you pursue this in any
> fashion...don't have high expectations about the quality of this stuff (or
> lack thereof!) and you won't be disappointed. Good luck!
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> fairchildclub-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
'

Re: AIRPLANES and STUFF!

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 7:38 pm
by Thekortas@aol.com
'Happy Easter John. Yes, I knew Walter and the parts are a mess. I walked
through the entire shop and the containers that had the 24s in them. But,
we've all seen some remarkable restorations. Like I said I don't know what
the grandson thinks he can get for them. But, they may be worth something to
someone. I'm not sure if I'll be seeing him again soon or be talking to him
but if I do I'll see if he wants to place an ad. If he does I'll have him
contact you. Thanks John.
Regards,
Steve'

Re: AIRPLANES and STUFF!

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 7:41 pm
by WALTER ALBERT
'charlie bell knows this person and two weeks ago we received a fax listing
the items... your description of the items are accurate...walt
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 10:30 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: AIRPLANES and STUFF!


> Hello everyone! I received a call the other day that an old QB friend
had
> passed away and that his estate is being disposed of. There were always
> great stories about this guys stuff but no one really seemed to have seen
it
> in at least ten years. He operated a flying service in Agawam,
Massachusetts
> on the Connecticut River across from Springfield, MA. He favored Fairchild
> and Taylorcraft aircraft. Unfortunately, while he had no less than three
> 24W-165s and two Four place Taylorcraft, in addition to a couple of
regular
> two place Taylorcraft and, I believe, a Luscombe, he didn't do much to
> preserve the aircraft when he got too old to run the business anymore. The
> 24W's were serial numbers 46148, 46197 and 46270. He flew them on floats
and
> took the aircraft apart apparently when he closed up the business.
> I had the opportunity to go and see everything today. All three Fairchild
> fuselages are in one tractor trailer container box. The wings were in
another
> but are now in the garage. One Warner is still on one of the airframes.
> Another is hanging on a chain or cable or something in the basement of the
> shop and the third is in pieces. There is a LOT or rust and virtually
every
> part or piece of everything needs total restoration. Some parts missing
and
> many are scattered throughout the building that housed his business in a
> rotting old structure along the shore of the Connecticut River. Frankly
> everything is a mess. Don't think that there is anything that could be
flying
> without the kind of restoration that we all read about where someone takes
> the old stuff and uses much of it for patterns. This is not an easy
> restoration opportunity.
> I told the fellow's grandson that I would come home tonight and post this
on
> the discussion board because there is possibly somebody out there who
might
> want to tackle this. Believe me, if I had all the time in the world and a
> lot more skill and money than I do there is no one who loves a Warner
powered
> 24 any more than I do. But, this is way beyond me. Plus, I think they
> really want to sell this fairly quickly and in large lots. Like all the
> Fairchild stuff together and all the Taylorcraft stuff together, etc.
But,
> they'd have to explain it in their own words. I don't represent them nor
did
> I know the grandson until today. But don't expect that you could go there
and
> buy one or two pieces. They want a volume sale and aren't interested in
$100
> here and there for this mag or that flap, etc..
> So, if there is anyone on the discussion board who wants to talk to the
> grandson his name is Jim Martel and his home phone in Massachusetts is:
> 413-789-2554. Just tell him that you got his name and number from the
> Fairchild Discussion Board. He seems to be a pretty nice guy. But I
think
> he's getting a lot of lookers and I couldn't tell whether he thinks this
> stuff is valuable or if he's realistic and just wants to move it. I don't
> know how many people could really handle what is there in terms of doing a
> restoration. Just one last word of advice if you pursue this in any
> fashion...don't have high expectations about the quality of this stuff (or
> lack thereof!) and you won't be disappointed. Good luck!
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> fairchildclub-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
'