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> Tom,
>
> Get it back to normal. I would not even consider an Exp F-24 for

>
> Jamie S. Treat A&P/IA

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Downey
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:51 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Expermintal Airworthiness certificate


--- In fairchildclub@y..., jstreat360@a... wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Get it back to normal. I would not even consider an Exp F-24 for
resale.
>
> Jamie S. Treat A&P/IA

Other than resale I see no advantage to the normal cat. I am an A&P-
IA and can do my own annuals, Any A&P can do a Conformity inspection
on the EXP aircraft.
So what is the advantage of the normal cat. use of 337 to do any
changes? FSDO approval to change the fabric?
I belive it is a buyer perspective thing, and a whole lot more paper
to chase.
Tom D. A&P-IA
http://nc19143.homestead.com/NC19143.html.


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> In 1991 my Fairchild was placed in the EXP. category
> for the required
> hours to certify the STC to place a Warner 165 on
> where a Warner 145
> came off. No one bothered to apply for the
> certificate to be returned
> to the normal category. The logs are signed off as
> engine changed as
> per the STC which is now effective.
>
> The question I have now, in light of pending
> regulations, (see AVWEB)
> would it be better to leave the Fairchild in EXP
> cat. or try to get
> the FAA to relicense it as normal cat?
> opinions ??

>
> --- In fairchildclub@y..., jstreat360@a... wrote:
> > Tom,
> >
> > Get it back to normal. I would not even consider an Exp F-24 for
> resale.
> >
> > Jamie S. Treat A&P/IA
>
> Other than resale I see no advantage to the normal cat. I am an A&P-
> IA and can do my own annuals, Any A&P can do a Conformity inspection
> on the EXP aircraft.
> So what is the advantage of the normal cat. use of 337 to do any
> changes? FSDO approval to change the fabric?
> I belive it is a buyer perspective thing, and a whole lot more paper
> to chase.
> Tom D. A&P-IA
> http://nc19143.homestead.com/NC19143.html.
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> Uh, would that be condition inspection vs conformity
> inspection? I
> always thought a conformity inspection was to insure
> the plane was
> equipped/built as per the type certificate +/-
> STC/Field approvals/ETC.
> To bring back the Experimental F24 to Standard, it
> would have to be
> exactly as it came off the production line with the
> exceptions of
> approved mods wouldn't it? I'd be interested in an
> Experimental F24
> just for the fact that I can fix or build any part
> for it, install it,
> put it back in phase 1 (I think), test fly for set
> period, sign off mod,
> all as an owner. Believe all I'd need was an A&P to
> sign off the annual
> condition inspection once a year.
>
> Scott

>
> --- Scott wrote:
> > Uh, would that be condition inspection vs conformity
> > inspection? I
> > always thought a conformity inspection was to insure
> > the plane was
> > equipped/built as per the type certificate +/-
> > STC/Field approvals/ETC.
> > To bring back the Experimental F24 to Standard, it
> > would have to be
> > exactly as it came off the production line with the
> > exceptions of
> > approved mods wouldn't it? I'd be interested in an
> > Experimental F24
> > just for the fact that I can fix or build any part
> > for it, install it,
> > put it back in phase 1 (I think), test fly for set
> > period, sign off mod,
> > all as an owner. Believe all I'd need was an A&P to
> > sign off the annual
> > condition inspection once a year.
> >
> > Scott
>
> Scott,
> To change a normal category aircraft to experimental
> you must have the justification to do so (i.e. Warner
> 165 installation). You would need to do engineering
> for your mod, prepare a test program, document your
> test data, fly x amount of hours, hire a DER, etc.
> How many dollars do you have to do this? I'm not
> trying to be sarcastic but why go through all this
> crap just to get out of an annual inspection each
> year? What would an experimental category
> certification do that a FAA Form 337 Major Alteration
> can't do? Think about it before you put yourself
> through a bunch of aggravation. If you really want to
> do that, design or purchase a set of plans for a
> homebuilt. As the builder, you can recieve a
> Repairman Certificate from FAA and you can do whatever
> you want as long as the change is airworthy.
>
> HTH,
>
> Mike
>
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> Hi Mike,
> Actually I was responding to someone who has an
> Experimental F24 and
> wants to return it to standard category. Being that
> it is already
> experimental, I was just saying that I personally
> would be interested in
> an experimental F24. I would never go through
> making a certified
> anything into an experimental something. I am
> building an RV-4 and own
> a Corben at present. I don't have an experimental
> just to get out of
> annual inspections...I have to have a condition
> inspection every 12
> months like everyone else. I like the latitude to
> be able to add or
> subtract parts The only thing I don't like about
> 337's is the cost
> of the IA filling out the paperwork and the FAA
> having to approve it.
> Experimentals bypass these two stages of
> bureaucracy. I didn't take
> your post as sarcastic at all. Good healthy
> conversation cleanses the
> soul