Fairchild Club Forum

Posted: **Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:31 pm**

'You're right Curt, looks like I can remove that placard if the springs are installed. They are installed on a service bulletin.

From A-724:
2) On M-62A, M-62A-3 and M-62A-4 airplanes on which control system bungees have not
been installed, and on all M-62B airplanes: "FLY SOLO FROM FRONT SEAT ONLY."
Mike

"He's crazy Lou, he builds toy airplanes".
- Capt. Frank Towns
Flight of the Phoenix

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From: CurtK
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:18:05 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: PT 26 Baggage capabilities

Unless I'm missing something the placard "front seat solo only" is only applicable when the control springs are not installed. In addition, provided the airplane is within the empty weight CG limits noted in the TCDS then you can't exceed the aft CG envelope without exceeding the max aft pilot weight or max baggage weight(even with no front seat pilot).

--- In fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com, Michael Denest wrote:
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> That's my brother Mark.
> Mike
>
>
> "He's crazy Lou, he builds toy airplanes".
> - Capt. Frank Towns
> Flight of the Phoenix
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> From: DAVID STROUD
> To: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:45:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: PT 26 Baggage capabilities
>
>
> Thanks for that, lads. Mike...are you located at the Smoketown Airport near Lancaster, PA ?
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> Fairchild 51 replica
> under construction C-FYXV
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Denest
> To: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: PT 26 Baggage capabilities
>
> Just remember that full tanks + two souls + baggage = aft Cg. That's why the M62 series airplanes are placarded for front seat solo.
> Mike
>
> "He's crazy Lou, he builds toy airplanes".
> - Capt. Frank Towns
> Flight of the Phoenix
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: DAVID STROUD
> To: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:29:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: PT 26 Baggage capabilities
>
> Thanks for the good info, Kurt.
>
> Keerikees, etc....no joy here. I've got a good line on a 26 for sale and a good sale for my
> two place Christavia while still building my F51 replica. My excuse for not taking my wife
> on those nice overnight camping excursions over the years was that with the Christavia
> I could only carry one (me ) , full camping gear with full fuel and I was hoping a 26
> might fill the bill in the meantime. No dice, I guess.
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> Fairchild 51 replica
> under construction C-FYXV
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: CurtK
> To: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:11 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: PT 26 Baggage capabilities
>
> All the PTs are certified for 50lbs max baggage(at plus 98 inches). The baggage compartment for the -19 and -26 is the same size and location, aft of the rear seat. The difference is access to the -26 is from inside the canopy through a much smaller opening than the side opening on the -19. Makes for some packing challenges, but the volume is the same. I don't have the exact dimensions, but about 40 inches long, by the width of the fuselage, approx 12 max height with semi circular shape.
>
> Also, there's room under the front seat for storage(good place for that case or jugs of oil) on long cross countries. If you're a lightweight and going solo, you can carry a fair amount under the front seat and strapped into the backseat. Golf clubs in the backseat look cool(don't ask me how I know this). And a case of beer fits pretty nicely with the bottom cushion out.
>
> The original military placarding for the baggage compartment allowed for a max of 67 pounds, and variable weights depending upon final weight and balance of that particular airplane. There was a place to mark a baggage weight for front pilot only, rear only, both cockpits occupied.
>
> Curt Kinchen
>
> --- In fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com, "DAVID STROUD" wrote:
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> > Lads, I've often been curious about the baggage capabilities of a PT26.
> > I understand the climb rate is nothing to brag about, I've seen 26's at air
> > shows but never got to ask anyone. Can anyone say where the baggage
> > is kept in a 26, what might be the physical size of it and lbs. limit ? Thanks.
> >
> > David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> > Christavia C-FDWS
> > Fairchild 51 replica
> > under construction C-FYXV
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > To: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:01 PM
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 Wheelpants
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> >
> > I have listed a pair of original Wheelpants for a Fairchild 24. E-bay # 120480108753 for a picture. Bill Spriggs
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Posted: **Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:13 pm**

'Dear David,

The Pt-19/-23/-26 series of aircraft where intended to train pilots to
move up the ladder to more complex airplanes, i.e. the BT-13 and then
the T-6. Having had the privilege of flying a PT-19 here in Oklahoma, I
can tell you that if you want to take the PT-19 and your wife camping,
you'll have to have a friend in a Super Cub carry your camping gear and
everything else to your destination. Also be sure that you have a 3,000
foot or longer runway to operate from. The 200 horse Ranger in a 2400
pound Fairchild does not make a good combination for a short field or
High & Hot operations aircraft. The airplane will teach you to fly a
heavy, low power aircraft, hone your airmanship skills and make you a
better pilot. That is the mission it was designed to complete. If you
want an aircraft to take camping, you will be happier, safer and have
greater flexibility with a Citabria, a Cub, a Maule (conventional gear
or nose dragger), a Cessna 172 or 182 with straight legs with 206 tires.

Regards,

Arnie

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "DAVID STROUD"
wrote:

>
> Lads, I've often been curious about the baggage capabilities of a

PT26.

> I understand the climb rate is nothing to brag about, I've seen 26's

at air

> shows but never got to ask anyone. Can anyone say where the baggage
> is kept in a 26, what might be the physical size of it and lbs. limit

? Thanks.

>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> Fairchild 51 replica
> under construction C-FYXV
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: waspriggs
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:01 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 Wheelpants
>
>
> I have listed a pair of original Wheelpants for a Fairchild 24. E-bay

# 120480108753 for a picture. Bill Spriggs

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Posted: **Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:30 pm**

'Or better than that. a Husky.

Jack

---- docarnie wrote:

>
> Dear David,
>
> The Pt-19/-23/-26 series of aircraft where intended to train pilots to
> move up the ladder to more complex airplanes, i.e. the BT-13 and then
> the T-6. Having had the privilege of flying a PT-19 here in Oklahoma, I
> can tell you that if you want to take the PT-19 and your wife camping,
> you'll have to have a friend in a Super Cub carry your camping gear and
> everything else to your destination. Also be sure that you have a 3,000
> foot or longer runway to operate from. The 200 horse Ranger in a 2400
> pound Fairchild does not make a good combination for a short field or
> High & Hot operations aircraft. The airplane will teach you to fly a
> heavy, low power aircraft, hone your airmanship skills and make you a
> better pilot. That is the mission it was designed to complete. If you
> want an aircraft to take camping, you will be happier, safer and have
> greater flexibility with a Citabria, a Cub, a Maule (conventional gear
> or nose dragger), a Cessna 172 or 182 with straight legs with 206 tires.
>
> Regards,
>
> Arnie
>
>
> --

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Posted: **Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:15 pm**

'I think I'll just dribble along with the Christavia and keep working on the 51. When
it's flying, I'll be the guy that gets to bring four friends, the BBQ, a couple of tents and all
camping eqpt, enough food and beer for a long weekend and then some.
Sounds like that 26 is kinda like a real nice day-sailer and there's nothing wrong with that.

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV

----- Original Message -----
From: threadgl@suddenlink.net
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Cc: docarnie
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Re: PT 26 Baggage capabilities

Or better than that. a Husky.

Jack

---- docarnie wrote:
>
> Dear David,
>
> The Pt-19/-23/-26 series of aircraft where intended to train pilots to
> move up the ladder to more complex airplanes, i.e. the BT-13 and then
> the T-6. Having had the privilege of flying a PT-19 here in Oklahoma, I
> can tell you that if you want to take the PT-19 and your wife camping,
> you'll have to have a friend in a Super Cub carry your camping gear and
> everything else to your destination. Also be sure that you have a 3,000
> foot or longer runway to operate from. The 200 horse Ranger in a 2400
> pound Fairchild does not make a good combination for a short field or
> High & Hot operations aircraft. The airplane will teach you to fly a
> heavy, low power aircraft, hone your airmanship skills and make you a
> better pilot. That is the mission it was designed to complete. If you
> want an aircraft to take camping, you will be happier, safer and have
> greater flexibility with a Citabria, a Cub, a Maule (conventional gear
> or nose dragger), a Cessna 172 or 182 with straight legs with 206 tires.
>
> Regards,
>
> Arnie
>
>
> --

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