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Headsets for open cockpits

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:05 am
by Jack Threadgill
'Good morning,



I am a fairly new owner of a Fairchild PT-19 and have been trying several
headsets. I have been told the noise canceling sets don't work very well in
the open cockpits. I would appreciate any comments or suggestions on
successful models of headsets to be used in a PT-19.



Thanks,



Jack



Jack Threadgill

1602 Brook Hollow Dr

Bryan, TX 77802

979-779-7155

threadgl@suddenlink.net





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Re: Headsets for open cockpits

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:18 am
by Michael Denest
'I use a Sigtronics Transcom II intercom, two David Clark H10-13X noise cancelling headsets and a Sporty's SP-200 portable nav/com.  It all runs on dry cell batteries and works great.  I purchased the Transcom II new and got the DC's off Ebay at a much lower price than advertized by Sporty's.
 Mike


"He's crazy Lew, he builds toy airplanes".
- Capt. Frank Towns
Flight of the Phoenix




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From: Jack Threadgill
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:05:19 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Headsets for open cockpits


Good morning,

I am a fairly new owner of a Fairchild PT-19 and have been trying several
headsets. I have been told the noise canceling sets don't work very well in
the open cockpits. I would appreciate any comments or suggestions on
successful models of headsets to be used in a PT-19.

Thanks,

Jack

Jack Threadgill

1602 Brook Hollow Dr

Bryan, TX 77802

979-779-7155

threadgl@suddenlink .net

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Re: Headsets for open cockpits

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:26 am
by Bob Haas
'Welcome to the thrill of an open cockpit, I use a David Clark
Helicopter for the last 20 years, and I have found noise canceling

Do not work as advertised. How ever progress moves on, there may be some
head set that work better. Bob Haas



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From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jack Threadgill
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:05 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Headsets for open cockpits



Good morning,

I am a fairly new owner of a Fairchild PT-19 and have been trying several
headsets. I have been told the noise canceling sets don't work very well in
the open cockpits. I would appreciate any comments or suggestions on
successful models of headsets to be used in a PT-19.

Thanks,

Jack

Jack Threadgill

1602 Brook Hollow Dr

Bryan, TX 77802

979-779-7155

threadgl@suddenlink .net

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Re: Headsets for open cockpits

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:11 am
by Patricia Banks
'Jack,
 
Here is another opinion for what its worth ...
 
I have had pretty good success with a few things. The most important seemed to be a quality intercom with good noise cancelling circuitry. There are some out there that are designed specifically for high noise environments. Noise cancelling headsets typically don't work well because the mic is picking up the high ambient noise and trying to cancell it by generating an oposing frequency through the speakers. Use a good quality passive headset ( I have Flightcom Denali's) a foam wind screen on the mic and then one of the leather covers over that. Aircraft spruce sells the covers. The mic cover made a definite improvement in reducing the amount of noise the mic picked up. The intercom's circuitry can only do so much .... reducing the noise signal that it must deal with is essential. Many headsets also have a mic gain ( a little pot on a circuit board in the ear cup) that can be adjusted. The gain is set from the factory at some generic value but can
be turned down for high noise enviornments. Also get used to having the mic basically touching your lips and speaking in a firm voice to trigger the VOX in your intercom. Typically hard wired PTT switches are better than VOX in an open cocpit. When I was flying helicopters we always had PTT switches due to the noise levels. Simplifies things actually.
 
Hope this helps ...
 
Matt
--- On Fri, 11/14/08, Jack Threadgill wrote:

From: Jack Threadgill
Subject: [fairchildclub] Headsets for open cockpits
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 9:05 AM

Good morning,



I am a fairly new owner of a Fairchild PT-19 and have been trying several
headsets. I have been told the noise canceling sets don't work very well
in
the open cockpits. I would appreciate any comments or suggestions on
successful models of headsets to be used in a PT-19.



Thanks,



Jack



Jack Threadgill

1602 Brook Hollow Dr

Bryan, TX 77802

979-779-7155

threadgl@suddenlink.net





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Re: Headsets for open cockpits

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:20 pm
by Jack Threadgill
'Thanks for all the suggestions and input. I tried the Bose X that did not
work very well. I have been using a Peltor Pro GT Series 7000 that works
quite well. It is a passive set. I do believe my problem is probably with
the intercom.



I am finishing up my annual and hope to have it back in the air soon before
the wx turns too cold.



Thanks again fro everyone's suggestions.



Jack



Jack Threadgill

1602 Brook Hollow Dr

Bryan, TX 77802

979-779-7155

threadgl@suddenlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Michael Denest
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:18 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Headsets for open cockpits



I use a Sigtronics Transcom II intercom, two David Clark H10-13X noise
cancelling headsets and a Sporty's SP-200 portable nav/com. It all runs on
dry cell batteries and works great. I purchased the Transcom II new and got
the DC's off Ebay at a much lower price than advertized by Sporty's.
Mike

"He's crazy Lew, he builds toy airplanes".
- Capt. Frank Towns
Flight of the Phoenix

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From: Jack Threadgill
To: fairchildclub@ yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:05:19 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Headsets for open cockpits

Good morning,

I am a fairly new owner of a Fairchild PT-19 and have been trying several
headsets. I have been told the noise canceling sets don't work very well in
the open cockpits. I would appreciate any comments or suggestions on
successful models of headsets to be used in a PT-19.

Thanks,

Jack

Jack Threadgill

1602 Brook Hollow Dr

Bryan, TX 77802

979-779-7155

threadgl@suddenlink .net

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Re: Headsets for open cockpits

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:34 pm
by Mike Danielle
'After suffering almost no communication with the other cockpit in my Great
Lakes, I purchased the FlightTech ENRI two-place noise cancelling intercom
(http://www.avionix.com/store/flighttech.html) and also modified my HGU-type
headset earpieces with the noise-reduction units sold by Flightsuits.com
(http://flightsuits.com/helm_anr.html).

I actually excused my passenger when I heard him burp. 'Nuff said.

Mike Danielle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Threadgill"
To:
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:05 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Headsets for open cockpits


> Good morning,
>
>
>
> I am a fairly new owner of a Fairchild PT-19 and have been trying several
> headsets. I have been told the noise canceling sets don't work very well
> in
> the open cockpits. I would appreciate any comments or suggestions on
> successful models of headsets to be used in a PT-19.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> Jack Threadgill
>
> 1602 Brook Hollow Dr
>
> Bryan, TX 77802
>
> 979-779-7155
>
> threadgl@suddenlink.net
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Re: Headsets for open cockpits

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:51 pm
by Jack Threadgill
'Sounds like you have a great set up, Mike.



Jack



Jack Threadgill

1602 Brook Hollow Dr

Bryan, TX 77802

979-779-7155

threadgl@suddenlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Mike Danielle
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:35 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Headsets for open cockpits



After suffering almost no communication with the other cockpit in my Great
Lakes, I purchased the FlightTech ENRI two-place noise cancelling intercom
(http://www.avionix.
com/store/flighttech.html) and also modified my HGU-type
headset earpieces with the noise-reduction units sold by Flightsuits.com
(http://flightsuits.
com/helm_anr.html).

I actually excused my passenger when I heard him burp. 'Nuff said.

Mike Danielle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Threadgill"
To:
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:05 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Headsets for open cockpits

> Good morning,
>
>
>
> I am a fairly new owner of a Fairchild PT-19 and have been trying several
> headsets. I have been told the noise canceling sets don't work very well
> in
> the open cockpits. I would appreciate any comments or suggestions on
> successful models of headsets to be used in a PT-19.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> Jack Threadgill
>
> 1602 Brook Hollow Dr
>
> Bryan, TX 77802
>
> 979-779-7155
>
> threadgl@suddenlink .net
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>





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Re: Headsets for open cockpits

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:47 am
by jameslbryan@btopenworld.com
'The only intercom we could get to work with the Tiger Moth was a LYNX
microlight system. We tried every thing at the time and were flying 5
Tigers the old gosport tube worked well as well but only any good in
you are non radio.
James




--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Threadgill"
wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions and input. I tried the Bose X that
did not
> work very well. I have been using a Peltor Pro GT Series 7000 that
works
> quite well. It is a passive set. I do believe my problem is
probably with
> the intercom.
>
>
>
> I am finishing up my annual and hope to have it back in the air soon
before
> the wx turns too cold.
>
>
>
> Thanks again fro everyone's suggestions.
>
>
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> Jack Threadgill
>
> 1602 Brook Hollow Dr
>
> Bryan, TX 77802
>
> 979-779-7155
>
> threadgl@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Michael Denest
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:18 AM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Headsets for open cockpits
>
>
>
> I use a Sigtronics Transcom II intercom, two David Clark H10-13X noise
> cancelling headsets and a Sporty's SP-200 portable nav/com. It all
runs on
> dry cell batteries and works great. I purchased the Transcom II new
and got
> the DC's off Ebay at a much lower price than advertized by Sporty's.
> Mike
>
> "He's crazy Lew, he builds toy airplanes".
> - Capt. Frank Towns
> Flight of the Phoenix
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jack Threadgill .net>
> To: fairchildclub@
yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:05:19 AM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Headsets for open cockpits
>
> Good morning,
>
> I am a fairly new owner of a Fairchild PT-19 and have been trying
several
> headsets. I have been told the noise canceling sets don't work very
well in
> the open cockpits. I would appreciate any comments or suggestions on
> successful models of headsets to be used in a PT-19.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
> Jack Threadgill
>
> 1602 Brook Hollow Dr
>
> Bryan, TX 77802
>
> 979-779-7155
>
> threadgl@suddenlink .net
>
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>
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>
>
>
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Ranger Engine on PT-19

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:53 pm
by Jack Threadgill
'Another question from a new owner.



I need suggestions on how to remove the left hand spark plug from the #4
cylinder on a Ranger engine mounted in a PT-19. Do you have to remove the
carburetor, or is there an easier way? So far, I have not even been able to
get the elbow connector off the top of the plug.



Thanks for any and all suggestions.



Jack



Jack Threadgill

1602 Brook Hollow Dr

Bryan, TX 77802

979-779-7155

threadgl@suddenlink.net





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Re: Ranger Engine on PT-19

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:27 pm
by danMichael
'Jack:
> I need suggestions on how to remove the left hand spark plug from
> the #4
> cylinder on a Ranger engine mounted in a PT-19. Do you have to
> remove the
> carburetor, or is there an easier way? So far, I have not even been
> able to
> get the elbow connector off the top of the plug.
>
Ah, yes, the intake side #4 spark plug. Its my favorite. I have a
24 but I assume its the same situation on the PT.

My technique is to loosen the intercylinder baffle that the #4 plug
passes through by unscrewing its long retaining bolt (that fastens to
its paired exhaust-side baffle). That allows you to slide the baffle
outboard along the plug body and then access the plug flats with an
open end wrench inserted from below between the intake manifold
branches. There is just enough travel to turn the wrench to align
the wrench with the next flats offset the other way (flipped over).
Its agonizingly slow but it eventually gets the job done. Dont drop
the baffle when removing the plug.

I dont remember an issue with getting the elbow off. I cant remember
if I get that from below, too ? its been at least a couple months
since replacing that plug.

Good luck!

:Dan Michael
:NC81323




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