Fairchild Club Forum

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chief Russell"
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:10 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for other F24 engines


> Lucky -
>
> where in CA is the airplane located-? I will b out in march and August
> certain and maybe in between those months. I would like to take a look see
> at your "project"...
>
> Dick Russell (81229)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of david stroud
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 8:05 PM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for non standard engines
>
>
> Thanks for the note, Lucky. If you're in the mood, please consider
> attending our
> BBQ at Sun n Fun this year. Friday night.
>
> Engine mounts don't faze me one bit. It's what it get attached to that I
> need to
> learn about. Regards..
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> C-FDWS Christavia
> F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: norbymac20@sbcglobal.net
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for non standard engines
>
>
> Hi David, I bought a rebuild project, 3 yrs ago, that has a 225 hp
> Jake on
> it. The mount was made by someone in California. (I am not near the
> plane).
> I have not noticed any changes or additions to the firewall or tubing.
> I
> will take a serious look the next time that I get near the project,
> which
> will be next spring, for I am a snowbird, living at Winter Haven,
> Florida.
> Lucky Mc Luckie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "david stroud"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 3:06 PM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for non standard engines
>
>
> > There's a lad on the list with a Continental or Jake on the nose of
> his
> > F-24 and
> > I've forgotten his name. Might be another Russell. My question is for
> him
> > or anyone
> > else that may know. When installing a larger radial than the stock
> Warner
> > 165, I
> > guess one has to consider the extra weight and extra power and how it
> may
> > affect
> > the front of the fuselage. Does anyone know if the fuselage of the 24
> gets
> > beefed up
> > with this type of conversion? Thanks.
> >
> > David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> > C-FDWS Christavia
> > F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS Private plane Fairchild semiconductor Plane
> reservation
> Fairchild Jet plane Pedal plane
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> a.. Visit your group "fairchildclub" on the web.
>
> b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> fairchildclub-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date:
> 12/29/05
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS Private plane Fairchild semiconductor Plane reservation
> Fairchild Jet plane Pedal plane
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> a.. Visit your group "fairchildclub" on the web.
>
> b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> fairchildclub-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: Chief Russell
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:01 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for Continental engines on F24....


This F24 with a Continental has been flying that way since 1973...

Dick Russell (81229)
-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of david stroud
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 3:06 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for non standard engines


There's a lad on the list with a Continental or Jake on the nose of his
F-24 and
I've forgotten his name. Might be another Russell. My question is for him
or anyone
else that may know. When installing a larger radial than the stock Warner
165, I
guess one has to consider the extra weight and extra power and how it may
affect
the front of the fuselage. Does anyone know if the fuselage of the 24 gets
beefed up
with this type of conversion? Thanks.

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
F-24 C-FDAE in restoration



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

a.. Visit your group "fairchildclub" on the web.

b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
fairchildclub-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Yahoo! Groups Links








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

----- Original Message -----
From: WILLIAM SPRIGGS
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for Continental engines on F24....


Happy New Year to all: Anyone know of a place that will fabricate new tach cables? Aircraft Spruce does not have the right fittrings. Let me know. Thanks Bill Spriggs
----- Original Message -----
From: Chief Russell
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:01 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for Continental engines on F24....


This F24 with a Continental has been flying that way since 1973...

Dick Russell (81229)
-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of david stroud
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 3:06 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for non standard engines


There's a lad on the list with a Continental or Jake on the nose of his
F-24 and
I've forgotten his name. Might be another Russell. My question is for him
or anyone
else that may know. When installing a larger radial than the stock Warner
165, I
guess one has to consider the extra weight and extra power and how it may
affect
the front of the fuselage. Does anyone know if the fuselage of the 24 gets
beefed up
with this type of conversion? Thanks.

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
F-24 C-FDAE in restoration



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

a.. Visit your group "fairchildclub" on the web.

b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
fairchildclub-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Yahoo! Groups Links








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

a.. Visit your group "fairchildclub" on the web.

b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
fairchildclub-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.


------------------------------------------------------------------------------



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

----- Original Message -----
From: WILLIAM SPRIGGS
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for Continental engines on F24....


Happy New Year to all: Anyone know of a place that will fabricate new tach cables? Aircraft Spruce does not have the right fittrings. Let me know. Thanks Bill Spriggs
----- Original Message -----
From: Chief Russell
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:01 PM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for Continental engines on F24....


This F24 with a Continental has been flying that way since 1973...

Dick Russell (81229)
-----Original Message-----
From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of david stroud
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 3:06 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for non standard engines


There's a lad on the list with a Continental or Jake on the nose of his
F-24 and
I've forgotten his name. Might be another Russell. My question is for him
or anyone
else that may know. When installing a larger radial than the stock Warner
165, I
guess one has to consider the extra weight and extra power and how it may
affect
the front of the fuselage. Does anyone know if the fuselage of the 24 gets
beefed up
with this type of conversion? Thanks.

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
F-24 C-FDAE in restoration



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

a.. Visit your group "fairchildclub" on the web.

b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
fairchildclub-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Yahoo! Groups Links








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

a.. Visit your group "fairchildclub" on the web.

b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
fairchildclub-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.


------------------------------------------------------------------------------




------------------------------------------------------------------------------


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.11/219 - Release Date: 1/2/06


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

----- Original Message -----
From: "david stroud"
To:
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for non standard engines


> Thanks for the quick replies on the non standard engine questions. We have
> an option
> here in Canada to build an "amateur built" class plane from the parts of
> others if one
> can prove that over 51% of the work has been done by the new owner. It's
> an interesting
> opportunity and is the one I will be building under. I'll use a radial
> engine but it won't be
> a Warner. That's why you got to buy mine, Jamie. My engine will be of
> Russian/ Romanian
> decent and that's what I had planned from the get go. George Coy of
> Gesoco.com sells
> a direct drive derivative of something similar to the M14P. It was a Kamov
> helicopter engine
> which apparently is famous for it's high torque cam and is now available
> with a direct drive
> nose case replacing the geared versions such as the M14P. New engines are
> available new,
> for about $12,500 US in Vermont. On the other hand, those wealthy buggers
> with their Nanchang
> Cj 6's have too much cash in their pockets and routinely remove the Housai
> 285 hp geared
> radial and replace it with the M14P 360 hp radial. Nicely enough, the
> direct drive
> nose case fits the Housai too. Those Housai engines can be picked up for
> well under $8K
> with only a few hundred hours on them. So, dump the gearbox, sell the prop
> that comes with
> them for $2K, mount a wooden prop on a direct drive nose case. The overall
> weight should be very
> close to a Warner with a Curtiss Reed prop. In a nutshell, 220 hp for
> under ten grand
> and no need to overhaul, these engines are available anywhere...and a
> radial to boot. Or, go
> nuts and keep the gearbox, save even more money, have a 265 hp engine with
> a controllable
> prop. Your penalty will be about 100 lbs. Rebuilding my 20 lb doors and
> changing out the
> stuff on the panel will cure a lot of that. My goal is to build up a two
> place cross country
> machine in the guise of a Fairchild 24 in Military drag with a radial
> engine.
> I hope I haven't offended anyone by being less than traditional with my
> approach but it is
> just too tempting to get the plane set up the way I would like it to
> ignore.
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> C-FDWS Christavia
> F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jamie S. Treat
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 4:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for non standard engines
>
>
> David,
>
> There is no structural mods other then new engine mount. You will need to
> install larger fuel lines, move batt aft. Also be aware that the extra
> weight up front will add stress to the landing gear knuckle joints. One
> failed on a 220 24W46 in Fla two years ago. They were the light joints.
> The
> heavy joints are rare. The Jake STC is not available anymore, the owner
> declines to sell due to liability.
>
> The 220 will give you a legal two place airplane with partial fuel, the
> Jake
> will give you a single seat with full food. The 220 and the Jake is not
> the
> way to go by any means.
>
> Go with the Ranger 200 or Warner 185.
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Newing
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for non standard engines


David, I'll be interested to see how you go with this, being F24w owner and
a Cj6a owner I have thought that the Housai would fit nicely under the
Fairchild cowl
Steve Newing
Australia
----- Original Message -----
From: "david stroud"
To:
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for non standard engines


> Thanks for the quick replies on the non standard engine questions. We have
> an option
> here in Canada to build an "amateur built" class plane from the parts of
> others if one
> can prove that over 51% of the work has been done by the new owner. It's
> an interesting
> opportunity and is the one I will be building under. I'll use a radial
> engine but it won't be
> a Warner. That's why you got to buy mine, Jamie. My engine will be of
> Russian/ Romanian
> decent and that's what I had planned from the get go. George Coy of
> Gesoco.com sells
> a direct drive derivative of something similar to the M14P. It was a Kamov
> helicopter engine
> which apparently is famous for it's high torque cam and is now available
> with a direct drive
> nose case replacing the geared versions such as the M14P. New engines are
> available new,
> for about $12,500 US in Vermont. On the other hand, those wealthy buggers
> with their Nanchang
> Cj 6's have too much cash in their pockets and routinely remove the Housai
> 285 hp geared
> radial and replace it with the M14P 360 hp radial. Nicely enough, the
> direct drive
> nose case fits the Housai too. Those Housai engines can be picked up for
> well under $8K
> with only a few hundred hours on them. So, dump the gearbox, sell the prop
> that comes with
> them for $2K, mount a wooden prop on a direct drive nose case. The overall
> weight should be very
> close to a Warner with a Curtiss Reed prop. In a nutshell, 220 hp for
> under ten grand
> and no need to overhaul, these engines are available anywhere...and a
> radial to boot. Or, go
> nuts and keep the gearbox, save even more money, have a 265 hp engine with
> a controllable
> prop. Your penalty will be about 100 lbs. Rebuilding my 20 lb doors and
> changing out the
> stuff on the panel will cure a lot of that. My goal is to build up a two
> place cross country
> machine in the guise of a Fairchild 24 in Military drag with a radial
> engine.
> I hope I haven't offended anyone by being less than traditional with my
> approach but it is
> just too tempting to get the plane set up the way I would like it to
> ignore.
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> C-FDWS Christavia
> F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jamie S. Treat
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 4:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Engine mounts for non standard engines
>
>
> David,
>
> There is no structural mods other then new engine mount. You will need to
> install larger fuel lines, move batt aft. Also be aware that the extra
> weight up front will add stress to the landing gear knuckle joints. One
> failed on a 220 24W46 in Fla two years ago. They were the light joints.
> The
> heavy joints are rare. The Jake STC is not available anymore, the owner
> declines to sell due to liability.
>
> The 220 will give you a legal two place airplane with partial fuel, the
> Jake
> will give you a single seat with full food. The 220 and the Jake is not
> the
> way to go by any means.
>
> Go with the Ranger 200 or Warner 185.
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


SPONSORED LINKS Private plane Fairchild semiconductor Plane reservation
Fairchild Jet plane Pedal plane


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

a.. Visit your group "fairchildclub" on the web.

b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
fairchildclub-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.


------------------------------------------------------------------------------




------------------------------------------------------------------------------


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.7/259 - Release Date: 2/13/06


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]