Fairchild Club Forum

'David Stroud,

If your spare pads and bladders are new, I am interested in them.
Please let me know how much. Please contact me at NC18681
HotMail com.

Thanks
Bob Waldron
1939 Fairchild 24 K
Stillwater MN

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wrote:

>
> Please make me number 2 behind the Chief as offerring my Hayes

wheels and brakes.

> I've got spare pads, bladders and wheel assys. also and I still

might be talked out of the

> master cyls. too if someone needs them.
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> C-FDWS Christavia
> F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chief Russell
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 11:31 AM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] F24 Cleveland brake installation
>
>
> Good info: we would like all the info we can get as we are

planing to do the

> Cleveland Conversion soon-!
>
> "Who" in the group wanted our Hayes brakes-?
>
> Dick Russell (81229)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John Berendt
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:12 AM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] [Fairchild club] brakes
>
>
> David,
>
> I know of several installations were the original cylinders are

used with

> the Cleveland conversion.
>
> John Berendt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "david stroud"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] [Fairchild club] brakes
>
>
> > Giday, Dick..I guess I'm in the same boat as you re: the

brakes. Someone

> mentioned
> > that you'll have to change out the master cylinders too as the
> Clevelands
> are high pressure
> > low volume and the Hayes are the opposite. Can you confirm

this pls.?

> >
> > David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> > C-FDWS Christavia
> > F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chief Russell
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 8:04 PM
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] [Fairchild club] brakes
> >
> >
> > WE have a set of brakes installed that we are taking off

the A/C to

> install
> > Cleveland's. For you purists (?), this is a great

opportunity; we will

> > exchange these for new Cleveland brakes and wheels.
> >
> > Any takers-?
> >
> > call me 316-208-3140
> >
> > Dick Russell (81229)
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stroud

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> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Buell's brakes
> >
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> > Buell..I saw a note somewhere that you are looking for

brake

> components.
> > If you still are..email me direct at: dstroud@s...
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'Hi All

I'm intressted in complete haynes system for my Argus

Brakeshilds
brakespads
rims

you name it

Thank you

Göran




--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "david stroud"
wrote:

>
> Please make me number 2 behind the Chief as offerring my Hayes

wheels and brakes.

> I've got spare pads, bladders and wheel assys. also and I still

might be talked out of the

> master cyls. too if someone needs them.
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> C-FDWS Christavia
> F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chief Russell
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 11:31 AM
> Subject: [fairchildclub] F24 Cleveland brake installation
>
>
> Good info: we would like all the info we can get as we are

planing to do the

> Cleveland Conversion soon-!
>
> "Who" in the group wanted our Hayes brakes-?
>
> Dick Russell (81229)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John Berendt
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:12 AM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] [Fairchild club] brakes
>
>
> David,
>
> I know of several installations were the original cylinders

are used with

> the Cleveland conversion.
>
> John Berendt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "david stroud"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] [Fairchild club] brakes
>
>
> > Giday, Dick..I guess I'm in the same boat as you re: the

brakes. Someone

> mentioned
> > that you'll have to change out the master cylinders too as

the

> Clevelands
> are high pressure
> > low volume and the Hayes are the opposite. Can you confirm

this pls.?

> >
> > David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> > C-FDWS Christavia
> > F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chief Russell
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 8:04 PM
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] [Fairchild club] brakes
> >
> >
> > WE have a set of brakes installed that we are taking off

the A/C to

> install
> > Cleveland's. For you purists (?), this is a great

opportunity; we will

> > exchange these for new Cleveland brakes and wheels.
> >
> > Any takers-?
> >
> > call me 316-208-3140
> >
> > Dick Russell (81229)
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of david

stroud

> > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:19 PM
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [fairchildclub] Buell's brakes
> >
> >
> > Buell..I saw a note somewhere that you are looking for

brake

> components.
> > If you still are..email me direct at: dstroud@s...
> >
> > David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> > C-FDWS Christavia
> > F-24 C-FDAE in restoration
> >
> >
> >
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'David: I would have chosen new master cyls rather than sleeving originals but it seemed to me to be more work to figure out the different mounting and the geometry of the pedal movement to piston movement required if one were to install new master cyls. Also, axle has to be pressed out 0.125" to accomadate the Cleveland wheels, and give adaquate threads for the retaining nut. Rotate axle 90 degrees and drill another hole for the retaining bolt. For the PT19 masters with no reservoir, I considered casting new units and boring to 3/4 " diameter, but had several cylinders to work with. Maybe next time......Bill Spriggs
[quote] ----- Original Message -----
From: david stroud
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 brakes


Was the motive to retain the original but modified master cyls just for some in
cabin authenticity? They're pretty much out of sight and $150 would get you a
new set anyway.

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
F-24 C-FDAE in restoration

----- Original Message -----
From: WILLIAM SPRIGGS
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 brakes


Hello Dick & David: I have converted 3 Fairchilds to C-310 Cleveland brakes and have sleeved the Fairchild Master Cylinders down to 3/4 diameter for the higher pressure and lower volumn required by the Clevelands. A 1" diameter drill rod fits perfectly into the bore of the Fairchild Master Cylinder and can be bored to 5/8 or 3/4 diameter and then you can use automotive cups against a new piston using o-rings for sealing. Don't forget to drill the holes down thru the filler in the reservoir or the fluid cannot return from calipers. Hope this helps.........................Bill Spriggs N77698 F24R46
----- Original Message -----
From: Chief Russell
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

'Giday, Bill and thanks for your input on the Cleveland switch. If you have a moment,
would you be kind enough to detail the procedure to install the 310 wheels and your
recommended brake package? No big deal, but I was not aware
that the axle had to be pressed out 0.125. Any other steps need to be done? Do
you go with the 210 brakes or mod the 310's? I haven't removed my Hayes wheels
yet and therefore have not exposed the axles. Thanks..

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
F-24 C-FDAE in restoration

[quote] ----- Original Message -----
From: WILLIAM SPRIGGS
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 brakes


David: I would have chosen new master cyls rather than sleeving originals but it seemed to me to be more work to figure out the different mounting and the geometry of the pedal movement to piston movement required if one were to install new master cyls. Also, axle has to be pressed out 0.125" to accomadate the Cleveland wheels, and give adaquate threads for the retaining nut. Rotate axle 90 degrees and drill another hole for the retaining bolt. For the PT19 masters with no reservoir, I considered casting new units and boring to 3/4 " diameter, but had several cylinders to work with. Maybe next time......Bill Spriggs
----- Original Message -----
From: david stroud
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 brakes


Was the motive to retain the original but modified master cyls just for some in
cabin authenticity? They're pretty much out of sight and $150 would get you a
new set anyway.

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
F-24 C-FDAE in restoration

----- Original Message -----
From: WILLIAM SPRIGGS
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 brakes


Hello Dick & David: I have converted 3 Fairchilds to C-310 Cleveland brakes and have sleeved the Fairchild Master Cylinders down to 3/4 diameter for the higher pressure and lower volumn required by the Clevelands. A 1" diameter drill rod fits perfectly into the bore of the Fairchild Master Cylinder and can be bored to 5/8 or 3/4 diameter and then you can use automotive cups against a new piston using o-rings for sealing. Don't forget to drill the holes down thru the filler in the reservoir or the fluid cannot return from calipers. Hope this helps.........................Bill Spriggs N77698 F24R46
----- Original Message -----
From: Chief Russell
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com

'David: I believe the part number for the Cessna Conversion Kit for the 310 is 199-64. This will fit the Fairchild axle if axle is pushed out about 1/8". The kit includes new wheels, so the kit is just bolted on. I highly recommend sleeving the master cyls. to 3/4" diameter and then regular hydraulic fluid can be used using auto cups next to piston. Bill Spriggs
[quote] ----- Original Message -----
From: david stroud
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 brakes


Giday, Bill and thanks for your input on the Cleveland switch. If you have a moment,
would you be kind enough to detail the procedure to install the 310 wheels and your
recommended brake package? No big deal, but I was not aware
that the axle had to be pressed out 0.125. Any other steps need to be done? Do
you go with the 210 brakes or mod the 310's? I haven't removed my Hayes wheels
yet and therefore have not exposed the axles. Thanks..

David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
C-FDWS Christavia
F-24 C-FDAE in restoration

----- Original Message -----
From: WILLIAM SPRIGGS
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 brakes


David: I would have chosen new master cyls rather than sleeving originals but it seemed to me to be more work to figure out the different mounting and the geometry of the pedal movement to piston movement required if one were to install new master cyls. Also, axle has to be pressed out 0.125" to accomadate the Cleveland wheels, and give adaquate threads for the retaining nut. Rotate axle 90 degrees and drill another hole for the retaining bolt. For the PT19 masters with no reservoir, I considered casting new units and boring to 3/4 " diameter, but had several cylinders to work with. Maybe next time......Bill Spriggs
----- Original Message -----
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To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com