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Re: Fuel flow troubles

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:55 pm
by Karl Saenger
'Tom,

The highest point of the fuel system with the aircraft sitting on the
ground will be the fuel lines going over the upper forward corner of
the doors. Probably, with only 10 gallons in the tanks the level will
be not high enough to go over this point. Therefore the fuel line
between this point and the gascolator needs to be filled with fuel to
start the syphoning effect. A little air pressure carefully applied
to the tank will start the flow, provided the valves and the drain
valve on the gascolator are open.

I hope that helps

Karl Saenger
UC-61K 43-14927

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Mueller"
wrote:
>
> Recently drained off all the fuel in my F24R46, clear down to the
> gasolater to facilitate installation of new fuel gauges, fuel
> sending units and nos fuel shutoff valves. All went well, but I was
> surprised when I couldn't get a fuel flow after installation. I put
> 10 gallons a side to the completely dry system, opened my new
> shutoff vales an expected a gush at the gasolater. Not a drop.
> Nothing I say, anybody got any ideas!
> Tom
> Hanford,Ca
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Re: Fuel flow troubles

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:50 pm
by Tom Mueller
'You're "dead on" correct Karl. I also got the fuel flowing by
uncoupling the fuel line at the carb instead of the gasolater as
Jamie suggested. Worked like a charm! Fuel from the Rt. tank really
gushes, left tank is a little weaker, but moves fuel. Previous owner
cautioned me, "always takeoff on right tank seems to run better."
Well, I'll be checking a few more things before my first flight. I
would like to see a more even flow. Could even be an original
plumbing quirk. Dunno, could also be because there's only 10 gallons
aside on board.
Tom'

Re: Fuel flow troubles

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:42 pm
by OldOOwl@aol.com
'Jamie...
Interesting problem with the gas not feeding. Dad took off in NC19105 after
it had been sitting for a month or two....flamed out at about 50 ft...he made a
successful landing in a field, but got into the fence as he came to a stop.
After that he would always drain out at least a quart of gas before flying.
Has anyone ever installed a fuel pump to pressurize the system?
When it stops snowing I want to come visit you "down South"
Richard Hawley


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Re: Fuel flow troubles

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:27 am
by Jamie S. Treat
'Richard,

Come visit any time. Just drop a note to make sure I'm here.

How is your Restoration going?

Jamie
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles


>
> Jamie...
> Interesting problem with the gas not feeding. Dad took off in NC19105
> after
> it had been sitting for a month or two....flamed out at about 50 ft...he
> made a
> successful landing in a field, but got into the fence as he came to a
> stop.
> After that he would always drain out at least a quart of gas before
> flying.
> Has anyone ever installed a fuel pump to pressurize the system?
> When it stops snowing I want to come visit you "down South"
> Richard Hawley
>
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Re: Fuel flow troubles

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:11 am
by Chief Russell
'Our Fairchild is flying, and, with a Continental 220 since 1973. I believe
you may have directed this message to some one else. However; where are you
located?

Dick Russell, Wichita
N81229

check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamie S. Treat [mailto:jamietreat@direcway.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:24 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles


Richard,

Come visit any time. Just drop a note to make sure I'm here.

How is your Restoration going?

Jamie
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles


>
> Jamie...
> Interesting problem with the gas not feeding. Dad took off in NC19105
> after
> it had been sitting for a month or two....flamed out at about 50 ft...he
> made a
> successful landing in a field, but got into the fence as he came to a
> stop.
> After that he would always drain out at least a quart of gas before
> flying.
> Has anyone ever installed a fuel pump to pressurize the system?
> When it stops snowing I want to come visit you "down South"
> Richard Hawley
>
>
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Re: Fuel flow troubles

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:51 am
by Jamie S. Treat
'Richard,

Message was for Richard Hawley, see below, he is in the Denver area. I'm
located just south of Denver at Kelly Airpark.

Jamie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chief Russell"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles


>
> Our Fairchild is flying, and, with a Continental 220 since 1973. I believe
> you may have directed this message to some one else. However; where are
> you
> located?
>
> Dick Russell, Wichita
> N81229
>
> check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamie S. Treat [mailto:jamietreat@direcway.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:24 AM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles
>
>
> Richard,
>
> Come visit any time. Just drop a note to make sure I'm here.
>
> How is your Restoration going?
>
> Jamie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles
>
>
> >
> > Jamie...
> > Interesting problem with the gas not feeding. Dad took off in NC19105
> > after
> > it had been sitting for a month or two....flamed out at about 50
> ft...he
> > made a
> > successful landing in a field, but got into the fence as he came to a
> > stop.
> > After that he would always drain out at least a quart of gas before
> > flying.
> > Has anyone ever installed a fuel pump to pressurize the system?
> > When it stops snowing I want to come visit you "down South"
> > Richard Hawley
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Denver Fairchilds.....

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:44 am
by Chief Russell
'I will have to stop out when I come west in our Fairchild....

Dick, N81229

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jamie S. Treat [mailto:jamietreat@direcway.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:50 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles


Richard,

Message was for Richard Hawley, see below, he is in the Denver area. I'm
located just south of Denver at Kelly Airpark.

Jamie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chief Russell"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles


>
> Our Fairchild is flying, and, with a Continental 220 since 1973. I
believe
> you may have directed this message to some one else. However; where are
> you
> located?
>
> Dick Russell, Wichita
> N81229
>
> check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamie S. Treat [mailto:jamietreat@direcway.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:24 AM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles
>
>
> Richard,
>
> Come visit any time. Just drop a note to make sure I'm here.
>
> How is your Restoration going?
>
> Jamie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles
>
>
> >
> > Jamie...
> > Interesting problem with the gas not feeding. Dad took off in NC19105
> > after
> > it had been sitting for a month or two....flamed out at about 50
> ft...he
> > made a
> > successful landing in a field, but got into the fence as he came to a
> > stop.
> > After that he would always drain out at least a quart of gas before
> > flying.
> > Has anyone ever installed a fuel pump to pressurize the system?
> > When it stops snowing I want to come visit you "down South"
> > Richard Hawley
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Denver Fairchilds.....

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:28 pm
by Jamie S. Treat
'Dick,

Your bird came from Denver?

More than welcome. We have plenty of fly-ins during the summer.

Jamie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chief Russell"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:44 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Denver Fairchilds.....


>
> I will have to stop out when I come west in our Fairchild....
>
> Dick, N81229
>
> check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamie S. Treat [mailto:jamietreat@direcway.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:50 AM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles
>
>
> Richard,
>
> Message was for Richard Hawley, see below, he is in the Denver area. I'm
> located just south of Denver at Kelly Airpark.
>
> Jamie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chief Russell"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:11 AM
> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles
>
>
> >
> > Our Fairchild is flying, and, with a Continental 220 since 1973. I
> believe
> > you may have directed this message to some one else. However; where are
> > you
> > located?
> >
> > Dick Russell, Wichita
> > N81229
> >
> > check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jamie S. Treat [mailto:jamietreat@direcway.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:24 AM
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles
> >
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > Come visit any time. Just drop a note to make sure I'm here.
> >
> > How is your Restoration going?
> >
> > Jamie
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 7:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Jamie...
> > > Interesting problem with the gas not feeding. Dad took off in
> NC19105
> > > after
> > > it had been sitting for a month or two....flamed out at about 50
> > ft...he
> > > made a
> > > successful landing in a field, but got into the fence as he came to
> a
> > > stop.
> > > After that he would always drain out at least a quart of gas before
> > > flying.
> > > Has anyone ever installed a fuel pump to pressurize the system?
> > > When it stops snowing I want to come visit you "down South"
> > > Richard Hawley
> > >
> > >
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Re: Denver Fairchilds.....

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:50 pm
by Chief Russell
'Yup; some time ago: maybe 3 years ago........

N81229 w/Continental 220

Dick

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jamie S. Treat [mailto:jamietreat@direcway.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 12:22 PM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Denver Fairchilds.....


Dick,

Your bird came from Denver?

More than welcome. We have plenty of fly-ins during the summer.

Jamie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chief Russell"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:44 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Denver Fairchilds.....


>
> I will have to stop out when I come west in our Fairchild....
>
> Dick, N81229
>
> check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamie S. Treat [mailto:jamietreat@direcway.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:50 AM
> To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles
>
>
> Richard,
>
> Message was for Richard Hawley, see below, he is in the Denver area.
I'm
> located just south of Denver at Kelly Airpark.
>
> Jamie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chief Russell"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:11 AM
> Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles
>
>
> >
> > Our Fairchild is flying, and, with a Continental 220 since 1973. I
> believe
> > you may have directed this message to some one else. However; where
are
> > you
> > located?
> >
> > Dick Russell, Wichita
> > N81229
> >
> > check www.russellaire.com and Fly Safe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jamie S. Treat [mailto:jamietreat@direcway.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:24 AM
> > To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles
> >
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > Come visit any time. Just drop a note to make sure I'm here.
> >
> > How is your Restoration going?
> >
> > Jamie
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 7:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Fuel flow troubles
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Jamie...
> > > Interesting problem with the gas not feeding. Dad took off in
> NC19105
> > > after
> > > it had been sitting for a month or two....flamed out at about 50
> > ft...he
> > > made a
> > > successful landing in a field, but got into the fence as he came
to
> a
> > > stop.
> > > After that he would always drain out at least a quart of gas
before
> > > flying.
> > > Has anyone ever installed a fuel pump to pressurize the system?
> > > When it stops snowing I want to come visit you "down South"
> > > Richard Hawley
> > >
> > >
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