Re: Cabin Insulation F24

Frank · Post by **Frank** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:24 am

'Folks -
The time has come to install the cabin interior.
The old cabin upholstery (Military UC61K), with no cabin heating, had cotton wadding insulation outside the headlining and sides - This did not look too fire resistant to me.
What do people use these days that is not going to fry the occupants too quickly in the event of a 'Nasty'?

Many thanks

Frank'

paul pinato · Post by **paul pinato** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:50 am

'Hi folks

My 1943 UC61A had asbestos between the cotton
liners. Military spec.

Paul Pinato

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602 30 Norrköping

Sweden

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Folks -
The time has come to install the cabin interior.
The old cabin upholstery (Military UC61K), with no
cabin heating, had cotton wadding insulation
outside the headlining and sides - This did not
look too fire resistant to me.
What do people use these days that is not going to
fry the occupants too quickly in the event of a
'Nasty'?

Many thanks

Frank

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Tom_Downey · Post by **Tom_Downey** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:17 am

'I used the fiberglass from the house insulation, with a light weight cotton backing to hold it in place on the rear bulkhead. On the sides and top it stays OK with the fabric covers.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" wrote:
>
> Folks -
> The time has come to install the cabin interior.
> The old cabin upholstery (Military UC61K), with no cabin heating, had cotton wadding insulation outside the headlining and sides - This did not look too fire resistant to me.
> What do people use these days that is not going to fry the occupants too quickly in the event of a 'Nasty'?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Frank
>

'

Peter Ramm · Post by **Peter Ramm** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:22 am

'Check out Pegasus Aeromarine. They have good info about insulating GA
aircraft with certified materials that both lower noise and provide
thermal isolation. Not sure if that is your wish.

http://www.pegasus-aeromarine.com/acoustic-ed/index.html

I used a system based on their recommendations in an old twin. Works
well.

Peter

From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom_Downey
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:18 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Cabin Insulation F24

I used the fiberglass from the house insulation, with a light weight
cotton backing to hold it in place on the rear bulkhead. On the sides
and top it stays OK with the fabric covers.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
, "Frank"
wrote:

>
> Folks -
> The time has come to install the cabin interior.
> The old cabin upholstery (Military UC61K), with no cabin heating, had

cotton wadding insulation outside the headlining and sides - This did
not look too fire resistant to me.

> What do people use these days that is not going to fry the occupants

too quickly in the event of a 'Nasty'?

>
> Many thanks
>
> Frank
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]'

robert Etter · Post by **robert Etter** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:26 pm

'The one thing I found is the fabric that they may have used. WOOL. When I took my Post war 24 apart, I found OD green upholstery all through it. The welt at the base of the wind screen, door panels, and rear arm rests. I am pretty sure it is wool. I could do a match test. If it doesn't burn like crazy, it is probably wool. Some of the samples that I have are faded and water damages, but most of it hasn't seen sun light for years.
If you want a sample, let me know where to send it.
Bob

________________________________
From: Frank
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 3:24 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Cabin Insulation F24

Folks -
The time has come to install the cabin interior.
The old cabin upholstery (Military UC61K), with no cabin heating, had cotton wadding insulation outside the headlining and sides - This did not look too fire resistant to me.
What do people use these days that is not going to fry the occupants too quickly in the event of a 'Nasty'?

Many thanks

Frank

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F.J. & D.A. Cox · Post by **F.J. & D.A. Cox** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:46 pm

'Thank you Bob.
At the moment I am working on it with a guy in the car restoration trade - If we can't come up with a suitable modern material I well may come back to you.
Thanks again
Frank

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Etter
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [fairchildclub] Cabin Insulation F24

The one thing I found is the fabric that they may have used. WOOL. When I took my Post war 24 apart, I found OD green upholstery all through it. The welt at the base of the wind screen, door panels, and rear arm rests. I am pretty sure it is wool. I could do a match test. If it doesn't burn like crazy, it is probably wool. Some of the samples that I have are faded and water damages, but most of it hasn't seen sun light for years.
If you want a sample, let me know where to send it.
Bob

________________________________
From: Frank
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 3:24 AM
Subject: [fairchildclub] Cabin Insulation F24

Folks -
The time has come to install the cabin interior.
The old cabin upholstery (Military UC61K), with no cabin heating, had cotton wadding insulation outside the headlining and sides - This did not look too fire resistant to me.
What do people use these days that is not going to fry the occupants too quickly in the event of a 'Nasty'?

Many thanks

Frank

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F.J. & D.A. Cox · Post by **F.J. & D.A. Cox** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:48 pm

'Thanks Peter for the link - If I can't find anything suitable on this side of the Pond I will give them a go.
Frank

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Ramm
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 4:22 PM
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Re: Cabin Insulation F24

Check out Pegasus Aeromarine. They have good info about insulating GA
aircraft with certified materials that both lower noise and provide
thermal isolation. Not sure if that is your wish.

http://www.pegasus-aeromarine.com/acoustic-ed/index.html

I used a system based on their recommendations in an old twin. Works
well.

Peter

From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom_Downey
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:18 AM
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [fairchildclub] Re: Cabin Insulation F24

I used the fiberglass from the house insulation, with a light weight
cotton backing to hold it in place on the rear bulkhead. On the sides
and top it stays OK with the fabric covers.

--- In fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
, "Frank"
wrote:
>
> Folks -
> The time has come to install the cabin interior.
> The old cabin upholstery (Military UC61K), with no cabin heating, had
cotton wadding insulation outside the headlining and sides - This did
not look too fire resistant to me.
> What do people use these days that is not going to fry the occupants
too quickly in the event of a 'Nasty'?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Frank
>

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