Re: Ranger engine with Generator

jwm1801 · Post by **jwm1801** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:10 pm

'Ok I am trying to resolve a continuing problem with oil on the belly of my F-24. Your help is greatly appreciated. Before I wrote to this forum asking about a large amount of oil coming out of the crankcase breather and going all over the belly. Since then I have sent the cylinders out to Harrison were they chromed (NUChrome) them back to standard, New Pistons and Rings. Just flew it tonight for the first time. Flew 25 minuets, landed and checked for leaks. Still have a good amount of oil coming out of the breather and on the belly. This may be the fact the cylinders are not broken in or something else. My question to the group is who has a wet vacuum pump (pesco) setup on their 24? If you do where do you have the oil return line coming from the air/oil separator return to the engine or oil tank? Any ideas? JON'

WILLIAM SPRIGGS · Post by **WILLIAM SPRIGGS** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:59 pm

'Jon: On my PT19 with wet Vacuum pump, the return line goes to the engine, next to tach drives. Seems to work fine. Bill Spriggs

To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
From: obliquephoto@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 02:07:47 +0000
Subject: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 Vacuum Pump HELP

Ok I am trying to resolve a continuing problem with oil on the belly of my F-24. Your help is greatly appreciated. Before I wrote to this forum asking about a large amount of oil coming out of the crankcase breather and going all over the belly. Since then I have sent the cylinders out to Harrison were they chromed (NUChrome) them back to standard, New Pistons and Rings. Just flew it tonight for the first time. Flew 25 minuets, landed and checked for leaks. Still have a good amount of oil coming out of the breather and on the belly. This may be the fact the cylinders are not broken in or something else. My question to the group is who has a wet vacuum pump (pesco) setup on their 24? If you do where do you have the oil return line coming from the air/oil separator return to the engine or oil tank? Any ideas? JON

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Jonathan Martin · Post by **Jonathan Martin** » Tue May 31, 2011 9:07 pm

'Bill do you have an air oil seperator installed in the vacuum system or does the line go directly from the pump to the engine? Jon

WILLIAM SPRIGGS wrote:

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>Ok I am trying to resolve a continuing problem with oil on the belly of my F-24. Your help is greatly appreciated. Before I wrote to this forum asking about a large amount of oil coming out of the crankcase breather and going all over the belly. Since then I have sent the cylinders out to Harrison were they chromed (NUChrome) them back to standard, New Pistons and Rings. Just flew it tonight for the first time. Flew 25 minuets, landed and checked for leaks. Still have a good amount of oil coming out of the breather and on the belly. This may be the fact the cylinders are not broken in or something else. My question to the group is who has a wet vacuum pump (pesco) setup on their 24? If you do where do you have the oil return line coming from the air/oil separator return to the engine or oil tank? Any ideas? JON
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WILLIAM SPRIGGS · Post by **WILLIAM SPRIGGS** » Tue May 31, 2011 9:11 pm

'Jon: I have an air-oil seperator and this drains to the engine. It has to be mounted high on the firewall so will drain to engine. Bill Spriggs

To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
From: obliquephoto@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 23:06:34 -0400
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 Vacuum Pump HELP

Bill do you have an air oil seperator installed in the vacuum system or does the line go directly from the pump to the engine? Jon

WILLIAM SPRIGGS wrote:

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>Jon: On my PT19 with wet Vacuum pump, the return line goes to the engine, next to tach drives. Seems to work fine. Bill Spriggs
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>To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
>From: obliquephoto@comcast.net
>Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 02:07:47 +0000
>Subject: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 Vacuum Pump HELP
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>Ok I am trying to resolve a continuing problem with oil on the belly of my F-24. Your help is greatly appreciated. Before I wrote to this forum asking about a large amount of oil coming out of the crankcase breather and going all over the belly. Since then I have sent the cylinders out to Harrison were they chromed (NUChrome) them back to standard, New Pistons and Rings. Just flew it tonight for the first time. Flew 25 minuets, landed and checked for leaks. Still have a good amount of oil coming out of the breather and on the belly. This may be the fact the cylinders are not broken in or something else. My question to the group is who has a wet vacuum pump (pesco) setup on their 24? If you do where do you have the oil return line coming from the air/oil separator return to the engine or oil tank? Any ideas? JON
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TED CAMP · Post by **TED CAMP** » Tue May 31, 2011 9:20 pm

'Jon, I have two air/oil separators One for the Engine and one for the wet pump, the return lines for both are routed back to the top of the oil tank. I fabricated an aluminum tubing with two addition branches of small tubing welded to it. also the same for the over board breather line. The plumping is very creative becase of the lack of space. It does and has worked good for me.

Ted Camp
N81326

Phone 248-688-8744

To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
From: obliquephoto@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 02:07:47 +0000
Subject: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 Vacuum Pump HELP

Ok I am trying to resolve a continuing problem with oil on the belly of my F-24. Your help is greatly appreciated. Before I wrote to this forum asking about a large amount of oil coming out of the crankcase breather and going all over the belly. Since then I have sent the cylinders out to Harrison were they chromed (NUChrome) them back to standard, New Pistons and Rings. Just flew it tonight for the first time. Flew 25 minuets, landed and checked for leaks. Still have a good amount of oil coming out of the breather and on the belly. This may be the fact the cylinders are not broken in or something else. My question to the group is who has a wet vacuum pump (pesco) setup on their 24? If you do where do you have the oil return line coming from the air/oil separator return to the engine or oil tank? Any ideas? JON

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Jack Threadgill · Post by **Jack Threadgill** » Tue May 31, 2011 9:23 pm

'My Ranger engine in the PT-19 has a generator mounted on the upper rear
case. There is no oil seal in the adaptor plate on the generator pad nor on
the generator shaft. I am experiencing oil seeping out of the hole in the
bottom of the generator near where it mounts to the engine. Has anyone else
experienced this and have you found a cause or cure? I will appreciate any
info or suggestions.

Thanks,

Jack

Jack M. Threadgill
1602 Brook Hollow Dr
Bryan, Texas 77802
979-779-7155
threadgl@suddenlink.net'

Airy Millet · Post by **Airy Millet** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:24 am

'I have experienced such leakage, with original fiber-washer as oil catcher, and ZZ ball front bearing, replacing this bearing with rubber sealed lifelong gresed bearing.
But, still having leakage after some hours flight!

I ever tested, the fitting of a hose to the evacuation hole in order to collect oil drip and looking at the oil "consumption" from this leakage! This looks not to change things a lot anyway!

will be glad to ear of other solutions!

Airy

To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
From: threadgl@suddenlink.net
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 22:22:44 -0500
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Ranger engine with Generator

My Ranger engine in the PT-19 has a generator mounted on the upper rear
case. There is no oil seal in the adaptor plate on the generator pad nor on
the generator shaft. I am experiencing oil seeping out of the hole in the
bottom of the generator near where it mounts to the engine. Has anyone else
experienced this and have you found a cause or cure? I will appreciate any
info or suggestions.

Thanks,

Jack

Jack M. Threadgill
1602 Brook Hollow Dr
Bryan, Texas 77802
979-779-7155
threadgl@suddenlink.net

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jameslbryan@btopenworld.com · Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:51 am

'Did they replace the valve guides Jon?

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From: TED CAMP
To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 1 June, 2011 4:20:43
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 Vacuum Pump HELP

Jon, I have two air/oil separators One for the Engine and one for the wet pump,
the return lines for both are routed back to the top of the oil tank. I
fabricated an aluminum tubing with two addition branches of small tubing welded
to it. also the same for the over board breather line. The plumping is very
creative becase of the lack of space. It does and has worked good for me.

Ted Camp
N81326

Phone 248-688-8744

To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
From: obliquephoto@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 02:07:47 +0000
Subject: [fairchildclub] Fairchild 24 Vacuum Pump HELP

Ok I am trying to resolve a continuing problem with oil on the belly of my F-24.
Your help is greatly appreciated. Before I wrote to this forum asking about a
large amount of oil coming out of the crankcase breather and going all over the
belly. Since then I have sent the cylinders out to Harrison were they chromed
(NUChrome) them back to standard, New Pistons and Rings. Just flew it tonight
for the first time. Flew 25 minuets, landed and checked for leaks. Still have a
good amount of oil coming out of the breather and on the belly. This may be the
fact the cylinders are not broken in or something else. My question to the group
is who has a wet vacuum pump (pesco) setup on their 24? If you do where do you
have the oil return line coming from the air/oil separator return to the engine
or oil tank? Any ideas? JON

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Jack Threadgill · Post by **Jack Threadgill** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:53 am

'Airy, thanks for your report. Hopefully someone has figured out how to
solve this. I have also considered tapping the hole in the bottom of the
generator and attaching a fitting with a hose out the bottom such as a
breather hose. The oil is going to get to the belly of the plane anyway,
but this would keep it off the back of the engine.

We welcome anyone's thought and info,

Jack

Jack M. Threadgill
1602 Brook Hollow Dr
Bryan, Texas 77802
979-779-7155
threadgl@suddenlink.net

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From: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Airy Millet
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:25 AM
To: fairchildlist
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Ranger engine with Generator

I have experienced such leakage, with original fiber-washer as oil catcher,
and ZZ ball front bearing, replacing this bearing with rubber sealed
lifelong gresed bearing.
But, still having leakage after some hours flight!

I ever tested, the fitting of a hose to the evacuation hole in order to
collect oil drip and looking at the oil "consumption" from this leakage!
This looks not to change things a lot anyway!

will be glad to ear of other solutions!

Airy

To: fairchildclub@yahoogroups.com
From: threadgl@suddenlink.net
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 22:22:44 -0500
Subject: RE: [fairchildclub] Ranger engine with Generator

My Ranger engine in the PT-19 has a generator mounted on the upper rear
case. There is no oil seal in the adaptor plate on the generator pad nor on
the generator shaft. I am experiencing oil seeping out of the hole in the
bottom of the generator near where it mounts to the engine. Has anyone else
experienced this and have you found a cause or cure? I will appreciate any
info or suggestions.

Thanks,

Jack

Jack M. Threadgill
1602 Brook Hollow Dr
Bryan, Texas 77802
979-779-7155
threadgl@suddenlink.net

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